Yvonne McCoy Women’s Business Strategist Shares how to accelerate productivity & profit | DFS 285

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Welcome to destined for success. I'm your

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host Jennifer Takagi and I'm so excited because today is PATA

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Palooza Day. And I have the honor and privilege of

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interviewing Yvonne McCoy, Yvonne and I keep seeing each

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other in various platforms. But we've never gotten to connect.

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So it's super fun to get to connect with people. I wouldn't

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otherwise connect with. How are you today? And are you having

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fun at Potter palooza?

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I absolutely am. And and one of the things that I

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liked the best is every time I do Potter Palooza, I think my

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message is clear. So I think I'm actually helping more people and

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being a better guest. So I'm hoping to be a great guest for

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you as well.

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I love it. And what is that all saying? podcast

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is nothing but a rehearsal stage and your next talk is your best

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talk.

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Absolutely. And and I think it's even better if

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if the reason for that is you've gotten better with your either

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with your material or your insights. So, you know, I think

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I've done a little bit of both. So I think it usually

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is a both and right you find out what lands

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and what doesn't. So you're a women's business strategist,

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tell us a little bit about how you got on that path, and what

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strategic moves we need to make so we can be more successful?

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Well,

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you know, like, like a lot of entrepreneurs, you

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know, I pivoted a lot to a lot of different things. But

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probably one of the biggest things that happened for me was

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in March of 2020, I was hospitalized for five days when

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I came out. We were in shutdown from COVID. And I was doing a

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lot of coaching for nonprofits and organizational development.

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And it was like, Oh, my God, I have no business. Over there's

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nothing like being dashed with cold water to really wake you up

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and shake you out of your complacency. Do you know? And so

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I had to really, I mean, one of the good things about it is it

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really turned into be a wonderful gift and an

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opportunity, although it did not feel like that at all. And I had

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to really sit down and go, Okay, how can I make this work? What

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can I do that I can repeat on a consistent basis that I liked

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doing? You know, because there are lots of things that I could

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do that I didn't particularly care about. But what can I do on

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a consistent basis that I can do long term that's repeatable,

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that, you know, that's gonna get me consistent sales. And so I

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came up with a process that I called the VIP profit roadmap.

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And basically, it build on a couple of things that I think is

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really important, if you're going to be strategic, the VIP

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stands for what's your vision? What do you want to be

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remembered for it in 100 years, it's not that you worked 80

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hours a week, do you know that it's something, it's something

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different? You know, for me, it started with the idea that I

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want everybody that I meet to leave better than when they

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first met me, you know that I have something that I can give

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that that makes your life a little bit better. The second

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thing was that I struggled with a lot was the whole idea of

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constant change. Because I was very much one of those women, I

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want to get this finished, I want to get it perfect. And, and

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you know what, you're never finished. It's never perfect,

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and you're never ready. You know? So once I got to that

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mindset, you know that I had all these things that I thought were

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all set in stone, and you know, within a week, they all

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vanished. It's like, okay, how can I innovate during change, so

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I can stay in the flow. Right? And then the third thing was,

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how do I use my special gift in my business, so I can be made.

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So I don't have to have a professional than near and

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pretend to be something that I'm not or, you know, just, you

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know, be stilted and be professional. You know, it's

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like, there was a point in my life when I felt like, when I

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walked when I was outside my house, I had my MBA,

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professional, corporate, you know, uniform on and when I got

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in my house, I was something else. And so it was like, okay,

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and not only that, I mean, to be perfectly frank, I was like 69

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years old. It was like if I don't do it my way now when we,

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like couldn't do it, right. And so that was what what happened.

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And what I found was that having a vision and a purpose kind of

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makes you automatically more strategic, just because you say

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you know, who can I impact? How can I have a bigger impact? How

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can I help other people, but it also, you know, entrepreneurship

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is not for the faint of heart. I mean, it is it has to mean The

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ups and downs, right. And so when you have a vision, that's

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one of the things that helps you build resilience, you know, and

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keeps you centered. I mean, it keeps you from, when you have

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great successes, it keeps you kind of level headed, and when

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you have great tragedies or devastation, you know, and of

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course, you know, they're not really great devastations they

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just feel that way. You know, it's something that helps you

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rebound. And, you know, doing it in your own way. I mean, I have

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I say to people, I have a weird sense of humor, I have these

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weird thoughts that pop up. And, you know, say to myself, Please,

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God, don't let me say this out loud.

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But I tease my husband, you're not actually

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gonna say that, right? That's a pretend conversation.

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But it's like, but But you know, but the clients

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that I have, once we start working together, you know, we

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feel comfortable enough that I can say those things like, brace

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yourself here, and come sorry. And that's a really nice way to

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feel. I mean, it's, it's, um, I think that I like working with

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women. And I say, enlightened men for the simple reason that

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one of the things that I think that I've learned along the way,

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is that society, we were born as ferocious and fearless children,

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we do, we wouldn't do anything. I mean, I remember the time my,

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my son jumped in the deep end of the pool and didn't know how to

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swim, it was like, Oh, here it is, right. My sister jumped off

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the garage roof once, because I said that she couldn't play with

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us. And she said, I'm gonna jump, and I said, go ahead and

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change. Something, no, but my mother punished me for telling

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her to do that. And so we lose that, you know, trying to fit in

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to blend in to whatever. And, and that is the thing,

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especially in business, that's gonna make us successful.

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Because there are all these other people who have that same

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hidden desire, that have that need to be able to do that. And

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I think that's the thing that, you know, is amazing. And so

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part of what the program is that I don't talk about as much, but

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is to help you stop practicing. And do it. I you know, my

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analogy is, you know, most of our businesses are like junk

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drawers, we're attracted to shiny objects. So we've got lots

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of courses, and lots of freebies, and lots of all these

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things that we stick in the draw, that we have no idea where

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they fit. And, and so what I do is, I hope you don't dump that

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dry out, sort through it, rediscover the treasures that

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you have in there, figure out how you can use it and make

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money fast without making a whole lot, you know, a whole lot

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of mistakes. And, you know, I look at patterns. I mean, that's

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part of my gift is I recognize patterns. And, you know, I say,

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you know, if you There are regular patterns and

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entrepreneurship. And just like if you go to the shore, and you

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see the waves, and you can time the waves, you may not jump all

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the time at the right time. But when you do get knocked down,

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you know, you need to get back up, because you know, that next

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wave is coming. And that's what entrepreneurship is about. It's

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being able to it to time those ways, and be as proactive as you

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can as much of the time as you can. But know that you have a

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reset or recovery strategy, so that you can do it. And, and one

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of the things that I love is, you know, part of my goal with

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working with women is to get you out of the doing stage and get

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you into the CEOs into your CEO Mojo. One of the things that you

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know, that I'm kind of putting together as what I call the

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entrepreneurial leadership journey. And one of the things

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that happens is in terms of leadership, we tend to, you

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know, if you actually were to follow it is like you kind of

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learn to manage yourself, then you learn to manage projects,

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then you learn to manage other people then you manage

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organizations are bigger things. As entrepreneurs, we jump into

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managing projects, we are such doers. I mean, I can't tell you

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how many executive directors I've coach that are busy filing

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or finding something or whatever, instead of you know,

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and then seeing at the end of the day, oh my god, I still have

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all my stuff to do. Right

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today go? Yeah.

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And so that is, you know, helping them say okay,

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we need to develop the that part of my skill set so that not only

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can I manage a project, but now I'm in a place where I can

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delegate and grow faster. Right? And so the the intensive is

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meant to be that stage where we take a look and really do the

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foundational stuff where you're really taking your business and

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giving it shape so that you Ready to Grow and then ready to

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scale? Right? I, most of the people that I work with have

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already been in business, they've made some sales, they've

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invested in themselves, but they got these expensive courses or

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these expensive, you know, programs that they've been in.

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And I mean, and I've done it myself, I mean, my client is me.

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I was in, I was at a really, you know, like, it was over $20,000

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program for a year. And at the end of the year, I still didn't

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know who my avatar was,

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Oh, me, too, you know, been there done that.

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And

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you know, what it was the it was the approach. I

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mean, I think that people do not one size does not fit all. Now,

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you probably remember this, when it was a big thing when they

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brought out clothing and said, one size fits all. And it

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didn't, right, that's in there. And then they said, one size

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fits most. You know, my philosophy is, if it doesn't

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work for you, it doesn't work. There's nothing wrong with you,

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you just need to find a different approach. And so, you

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know, I had a client said to me, I canceled my appointment,

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because I hadn't done my homework. And I said, I never

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want you to do that. Because you're not doing your homework

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is a lesson. Let's find out why you didn't do it. You know, did

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you just check it off? Or were you having difficulty? And we

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need to figure out a different way to get the same results.

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Right? Because one size does not fit all? You know?

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It obviously does not? I think we we've had

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similar journeys along the way. So I want to get back to your

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VIP a little bit I got the four vision is I innovate,

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its innovation during during constant change,

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okay,

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innovation during constant change. Because

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you know, what, if you don't change, the rest of

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the world still is changing, and you're gonna get left behind?

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Yeah, and I'll give you a really simple it's a really powerful,

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but very simple example. Okay, there was a time when coaches

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and gurus were hired for their expertise. Now, there's

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information everywhere you can, you can get information for

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free. So you're having some some level of expertise is a given. I

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mean, it's like the minimal thing, right? People hire you to

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so that you can help them implement that information and

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give them accountability and get results. So that means you can't

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just show up and say, do this. That's a long, that's a long,

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you know, the same thing with Chad GPT. Right. If you're a

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technophobe, like me, I was like, you know, not an A, and

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now I love it. I mean, I can get so much done, because I found a

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way that it works for me. I mean, it's like, in between

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calls, I'll put something in. And at the end of the day, I

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have all this stuff that I've generated that I've been that

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I've been putting off, right. And, you know, I've learned to

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train it to do certain things for me, you know, like, I'm

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really terrible with hashtags. So, you know, I always say, to

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give me seven titles for this post and give me you know, seven

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hashtags, no, and then I make it my own. Right. So that's what

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the the innovation is, there's always going to be change, it's

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not, when it's going to change. It's not if it's going to

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change, it's when it's going to change.

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I know. And I it's so funny, because I have

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this vision, when I graduated college and got a real job, that

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life was going to be stable, like that it was going to be

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stable. And I think I wanted that because we moved so much

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when I was growing up. And it was like, I want to get

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someplace and like plant roots and stay. And I did not do that

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for many more years. But I just created this vision that things

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should stay the same. And it was a rude awakening, that it's

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never going to stay the same. It's never going to end like

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next year is not going to be the same as this year. We think it

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might be but it's not. We're always in a state of flux and a

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state of movement in the state of change. But I love that have

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innovating in the midst of it all. That's so important.

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And I think, you know, for me, one of the things

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was I used to say for years, I'm not creative, I'm not creative,

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I'm not creative, right. And, and I read a definition that set

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me free. It says creativity is not creating something out of

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nothing. It's taking things that already exist and coming up with

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a better a better version and you know, or a different use.

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And so one of the things that I you know, I always when I'm

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coaching I always say find three uses for anything that you do.

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Right so If you do a post, you know, Can you post it in more

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than one place? Can you put put it into something that you're

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talking about? Can you do a video? Can you whatever, so that

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you can get more mileage out of out of the things that you know

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that you're doing. And the last piece, because I want to make

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sure that I hit all three pieces, but the last piece is

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your product genius. Okay, that's your uniqueness. Right?

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The thing that you've been taught to hide, oh, God, please

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don't do this in front of other people. You know, your family

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thinks this is the thing that's weird. Like my family says to

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me, please stop fixing things. Because I'm always looking for

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solutions, right? But I'm really good at it. And so that's the

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thing. You know, we're we, we bought these programs, some

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gurus told us to do something, we've tried to do it, and it

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hasn't worked. And your first reaction is what's wrong with

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me? Right. And so I come up with models that I think will help

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you to be you. So the first you know, so one of them is the

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three P's. And I learned this, I came up with this for myself,

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when I was losing weight, because at one point, I was over

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400 pounds, and I lost 150 pounds. And so you know, your

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first thing is you eat something you're not supposed to you gain

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weight, when you're trying to lose weight you go what's wrong

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with me? Do that, why can't I do this? This was, you know, rare.

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And so to get out of that, because it's so subjective, and

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it's so demoralizing. You know, I was like, What about a

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procedure? What? How is it supposed to work? Right? And

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that became the procedure. So had I done shopping had I bought

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the things that I needed that I make time in my calendar, you

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know, whatever the case may be. And that's true of business as

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well. And then you go to the personal. And it's not like

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what's wrong with me? It's like, do I know what I'm supposed to

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do? Do I need to make a change? Do I need something additional?

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Do I have the resources that I need? You know, if I'm saying

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I'm supposed to be eating vegetables, but I've run out of

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vegetables than I need to change the procedure, the same thing is

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true. In your business, if you say I need to have these things

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done at this time, but my copier, you know, is not working

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or my computer crashed, there's nothing wrong with me on my

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read, I need a procedure to say, you know, like I just said to my

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tech person, how often should I shut down my computer? And she

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goes, You don't do that every day? And I'm like, No,

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I have all the tabs open. Yeah,

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I mean, I got stuff. Yeah, it was like, and

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then the one time that I thought I was being really

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conscientious, like, I forgot part of important things. Today,

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I'm gonna shut my computer down, and could not get back in. I was

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like, Oh, my God. So So you know, do you have the resource?

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Do you have the support that you need to help you do things that

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you don't know how to do? And then the last one is being

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proactive. Don't just solve that problem one time, right? Figure

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out how you can solve it for the future. You know, if you don't,

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if you you know, you need tech support, find a tech person that

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you're going to regularly be with them and say, This is what

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I'm thinking about, you know, my my tech person says, Whatever

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you do, don't add anything. Don't buy anything before you

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talk to me first. So that what you're getting is going to work

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together.

Jennifer Takagi: 00:18:36

I love that.

Yvonne McCoy: 00:18:38

I surprised her. And so I've decided to change

Yvonne McCoy: 00:18:40

platforms. And she goes, you've made this decision. And you

Yvonne McCoy: 00:18:45

haven't even talked to me. And I said, but you'll be really proud

Yvonne McCoy: 00:18:48

of the way that I did it. I talked to several other people.

Yvonne McCoy: 00:18:52

I hadn't expected to do it. But I know that I have support and

Yvonne McCoy: 00:18:55

here's why. Here's my thought process. And now I need you to

Yvonne McCoy: 00:19:00

you know, help me to do it correctly. And it is. I mean, I

Yvonne McCoy: 00:19:03

was awake last night thinking about this because because we

Yvonne McCoy: 00:19:07

had had a palooza and a lot of these episodes are not going to

Yvonne McCoy: 00:19:10

be airing for months. And I it's like oh my god, and she's like

Yvonne McCoy: 00:19:17

not to worry, we can handle this. We can like okay, you

Yvonne McCoy: 00:19:23

know, you have the help that you need. So, I want I want women to

Yvonne McCoy: 00:19:26

stop just being a very, you know, a very important person in

Yvonne McCoy: 00:19:30

their business and be a strategic CEO. I want them to

Yvonne McCoy: 00:19:33

have their mojo, have their style, know that their style is

Yvonne McCoy: 00:19:37

okay. Right? Know what the limits are to that style. So for

Yvonne McCoy: 00:19:41

instance, if you tend to be more of, you know, kind of a

Yvonne McCoy: 00:19:46

community leader where you get everybody's, you know,

Yvonne McCoy: 00:19:49

information and stuff. That doesn't always work. There are

Yvonne McCoy: 00:19:53

times when you need to make a decision fast and you just need

Yvonne McCoy: 00:19:56

to do it. But the way that you do that is You know, I used to

Yvonne McCoy: 00:20:01

say when I was in corporate, I would say to my managers, here's

Yvonne McCoy: 00:20:04

the way this is gonna work. If I get a choice, if something comes

Yvonne McCoy: 00:20:09

down from corporate and I get a choice, they if they say we have

Yvonne McCoy: 00:20:11

to cut the budget and I get a choice how I do it, you get a

Yvonne McCoy: 00:20:14

choice on where you do it. If I don't get a choice, and they

Yvonne McCoy: 00:20:17

say, you have to cut it in this category, I'll give you five

Yvonne McCoy: 00:20:21

minutes to moan and groan to me, and then that's the way we'll do

Yvonne McCoy: 00:20:24

it. I mean, everything can't be a team sport. No, it cannot.

Jennifer Takagi: 00:20:30

Well, I love hearing your stories and getting

Jennifer Takagi: 00:20:33

to know you better. But unfortunately, our time has come

Jennifer Takagi: 00:20:37

to an end. And I see that we can reach you at book a call with

Jennifer Takagi: 00:20:42

yvonne.com. Mm hmm. And one last parting thought for our audience

Jennifer Takagi: 00:20:50

on what success means to you.

Yvonne McCoy: 00:20:55

what success means to me is that I have actually

Yvonne McCoy: 00:21:02

used my gifts to make other people's lives better, and I've

Yvonne McCoy: 00:21:06

had fun doing it, that I've done the happy dance

Jennifer Takagi: 00:21:11

eautiful I love that. Thank you for being here

Jennifer Takagi: 00:21:15

today.

Yvonne McCoy: 00:21:15

Thank you for having me.

Jennifer Takagi: 00:21:18

I'm Jennifer Takagi and I look forward to

Jennifer Takagi: 00:21:20

connecting with you soon.