THE ART OF MANIFESTING with COLETTE BARON-REID

It's the Karen Kenney show. Hey you guys.

Welcome to the show. I'm wicked excited to share with you a

conversation that I had with my guests this week. Now some of

you might know who she is, especially if you're kind of in

the spiritual community and you're into Oracle oracle decks,

like card decks and stuff like that. You might know who she is,

but for those of you who don't, I'm just going to share with you

some of her bio and stuff like that. So Colette Baron Reed is

an internationally respected author of eight books. She's an

educator, she's a spiritual intuitive and medium, and she is

an Oracle expert. She's published 19 oracle decks, and

they have sold over 2 million copies, which is just like

crazy. Her best selling books in Oracle cars have also been

published worldwide into like 27 different languages. She's the

founder of the Oracle School, which is a global online

learning platform and has students in 35 countries, and

it's all about it brings together empowerment, co

creation and ancient oracles, but in a modern and contemporary

way, she's also the creator of the energy psychology technique

called envision the total mind shift process. She divides her

time between Canada and the United States with her husband,

and she has three funny little Pomeranians. And you guys, if

you stick around to the very end, you're gonna get to see

you're gonna get to see one of her little, teeny, tiny

Pomeranians. It is worth sticking around for just that,

but our conversation is fantastic. What we're really

talking about is her new book. And first of all, actually, let

me just hold up if you these are two of her best selling Oracle

deck cards. This is the wisdom of the Oracle. And then this one

is the spirit animal Oracle, which is, like, one of my

favorite decks of all times. You know me, I love animals, and

it's also really beautiful. The at work in these is, like,

gorgeous. Okay, so what we were really talking about on my show

today is her new book. It's called the at of manifesting.

And this is a meditative drawing practice to rewire your brain

and create your reality. It's so fantastic. It brings together

neuroscience, spirituality and creativity. I think this is such

an incredible thing. I love this book. I've been doing my own

drawings and stuff, which you'll see if you watch the show, if

you and this might be an episode, PS, where you want to

watch it instead of listen to it. You'll still get a lot from

it if you listen to it. But there's going to be times where

I'm like, holding up drawings, and it will make more sense if

you can just see what the frick I'm talking about. You know what

I mean? But Colette was lovely. Think we had a great

conversation, and she co authored this book with another

fellow artist, because Colette is also an artist named Anna

Denning, and I just think it's really cool. And why I wanted to

talk about this book in particular with her is that I

haven't always been a fan of manifesting. I think the way

that it's talked about and taught is kind of screwed up.

It's kind of suspicious. It's a little suspect. And I didn't

really, I didn't really like where so much of the quote,

unquote, spiritual community like how they talk about it, so

we kind of get into that. And I thought this was a really

fascinating and interesting way, an angle, to come at it by a

different way of looking at things. And I think you're going

to enjoy the conversation. She's a delight. We had so much fun

chatting, and I'm just so happy to share this with you. So

enjoy. You don't even really have to buckle up for safety.

Nothing, nothing big, nothing bad or major happened, but we

had a lot of fun, good, high energy. And like I said, I think

you're going to really enjoy learning about it. And she also

has a workshop coming up that if you're curious about this,

definitely check it out, because I think you'll find it really

fun. And there's a short, little 15 minute video that she offers.

It's kind of like doodling your way out of anxiety that I that I

participated in because I wanted to see the effects of it myself,

and I thought it was really fantastic. So having said all

that, you guys, thank you so much for listening, and I hope

you really enjoy this episode in this conversation with Colette

Baron Reed, Hey, welcome to the Karen Kenney show you guys, I am

wicked excited. I'm so excited today to share my fantastic,

beautiful, wonderful, brilliant guest with you, Colette Baron

Reed, if you listen to the intro, you already heard her

incredible, impressive bio and all of that stuff. But first and

foremost, let me just say, Colette, welcome to the show,

and thank you so much for being here. Oh, my

God, I'm so excited. And you know, I lived in New

Hampshire for quite a while, and I love hearing the wicked. My

housekeeper would say, oh, that's just wicked cool, like

wicked good. I loved it. So you're making me home sick. I

love New England.

I know. I know. I'm so happy to have you here.

And I was laughing because I was looking on your website, and you

basically, kind of go through, like, all the things you do. And

like you, I'm also a multi passionate I'm a writer, a

speaker, yoga, like a bunch of spiritual menta, a bunch of

different things. But you jokingly say, I put here. So

even though you joke that you're actually unemployed, my joke is

always, I'm unemployable outside of my own employment, right? You

know what I mean. But really, the reality is is you're

actually wicked successful, and so you've done so much. And for

some people who may not like just know you off the jump, I

just want to hold up a couple of things. So number one, you have

19 oracle decks. Like over 2 million

sold, which is crazy, and that's over 20 years, okay,

and

still, though, okay, you can, you can quantify,

but, like, look at these. These are my two favorites of yours.

We were just talking about this. So the welcome Oracle deck, and

then the spirit animal one. This is you just said, became

possibly the best selling one of

all you know those two, it goes back and forth. They're

the most popular is this spirit animal. And I'm kind of excited,

because spirit animal came because of my dad. My dad taught

me about spirit animals. He was Serbian, and it's part of Slavic

folklore. Is almost identical to North American indigenous

folklore. It's so weird. They're like sisters and brothers and

and so, yeah, my dad. My dad taught me all about that when I

was early in my early teens. So it's really exciting, because

every time I hear that, I go, daddy, oh

my god. That this that does touch my hat too. It

makes me so happy, because I think these days and we can not

to go off on a segue from the stat, but like, we're really

lacking elders. I think it's so it's so wonderful that part of

your culture and your history got passed down from your dad to

you and then through you and your decks to like so many

people. I think that's incredible. But you kind of hit

on a point that I always jump off on when I have a guest on

the show. I do mostly, like 90% solo shows, I only have a guest

on, like, every few months. So I always say, you have to be Thank

you. Yeah, no, no. But I say that because I have to be

either, like, wicked curious about a person, or I love their

work, or I think they're doing great work, and I want to spread

it around. But the question I always ask people that I have on

and you mentioned your dad was it's a two fold question. Number

one, what were you like as a kid, and did your childhood Do

you think in any way influence, inform or inspire the work that

you do now, okay?

So I was, I think that when the doctor slapped my ass

wake me up, I slapped them right back, right. So that's why I was

a curious, very rebellious little kid. I was always

talking. I went in grade, nursery school in great in grade

and kindergarten. In grade one, I remember always being sitting

outside the classroom because I was talking too much. So I was,

I was very chatty, chatty, Cathy here, um, and already, when I

was a really small kid, I had, I had these experiences of knowing

things I shouldn't know without prior knowledge, you know, just

like just because I knew who was on the phone, I knew what my

mom's, you know, bridge lady's husband was doing, I don't know.

I just knew random things. And when I was little, actually, I

could think of one thing my nanny, Mrs. Kelly, she was a

Scottish nanny, really heavy, Scarlet, Scottish brogue. She

must have been in her early 80s, curly, curly permed hair, and

she had like a frog in her throat all the time, like she

like, kind of barfed like burped. But anyway, so she would

have her friends over and read their cards when they would come

over. And she was a psychic, like, totally for real. I just,

she just could not cook for beans. But anyway, so my parents

would go off to their parties, and there would be Mrs. Kelly.

And my older sister didn't pay much attention, but I paid a lot

of attention to this. But I remember one time she was

telling my mom, we used to have one of these doors that swing in

and out of the kitchen into the into the dining room. And I

heard her telling my mom that I had the site in a very your

daughter has the site in a I know you're not allowed to make

these, you know, like you can't do the accents anymore. I get

it, but whatever, I did a good one. So imagine Scottish accent

and I my mom was upset, and I didn't know why she would be

upset, because I was so far the only one in the family didn't

wear glasses. So when I hear her saying she has a snipe, that's

good, right? But so my childhood. You know, was really

feeling too much, but really, but I saw fairies in the garden,

and I know I did, and they were ugly little things, and they

were they weren't pretty. They weren't like the ones we see,

like Tinker Bell with fluffy, sprinkly things. They were like,

mad that I was that I could see them. One of them was like, I'll

never forget. It it was like it was a big fat dragonfly like

thing, and it was like it came out of the bushes at me, and it

looked right at me. And I'll never forget that it happened to

me maybe two or three times. And Mrs. Kelly knew, so I told her,

and she's told me not to say anything, like, don't tell your

parents. But then she told me that it was, she called it a

thistle something, not a thistle fairy, but I forget. But anyway,

I was, like, really excited, and then it never happened again.

But it was I would see odd things, you know, here and

there. Fast forward to where I am now, okay, doing what I do

for a living. I believe that curiosity is a superpower. Yes,

you know, I believe that. I believe and, and so I was always

a little budding artist back then too. So I was my mom would

love my little silly drawings of mice and things. But I also know

that, like finger painting, like you have to create, like your

five, right, and, and so, you know, right now, with my book

The Art of manifesting, it's all about that, about bringing that,

that be little, being forward, and letting go our tight hold

on, on you. Because I never had attachment to outcomes when I

was a kid. It was always about and we didn't have tablets,

right? I'm to be 68 right? So we had no internet, like when kids

went out. You go out to play and be back by, yeah,

they just kicked you out of the house and, like,

find myself and whatever, you know what I mean, but yeah,

you're answering like, you know, several of my questions that I

have because, you know, in your bio, it's like, oh, I'm a

spiritual, you know, intuitive and medium. And I'm like, okay,

for a lot of people, those gifts, those talents or

abilities, show up in your younger years. And so you you

were, yeah, you were aware of your gifts back then. And you

know, it sounds like you were just really open and creative,

and that's the thing. Like I was a kid who loved to draw, love to

make marks on paper. I think we've always loved to make marks

on paper. Like I remember when I traveled to Egypt with my my

dear friend and spiritual godmother, Marianne Williamson,

and we went, and the first time I saw the hieroglyphics, and,

like, sec met and like pyramids, I was like, Oh my God. I just

feel like, I've, you know, been here before, like, we've been

making mocks on stone and whatever, like, those were the

original tablets, right? Like, back in the day, it's like, so

incredible. But one of the things that I love about what

you're sharing, you already said a couple of things, is, but oh,

what I was going to say about that, though, is, even though I

love to draw, as a kid, I was a kid who liked to draw inside the

lines, like, I was one of those little like, you know, liked

everything neat, perfectionist kids. So I always love when I

meet kind of the wild, free, abandoned kids who are just

like, I just go crazy and scribble. I think it's so cool.

But one of the things that I love about the work that you're

doing, and I this book, is so fantastic, you guys. I'm holding

up Colette's new book. It's the art of manifesting a meditative

drawing practice to rewire your brain and create your reality. I

love that. You can see I've mocked it up. It's pretty we're

gonna dive into this in one second. But one of the things I

wanted to say is, in order to get ready for this, as a kid who

loved to draw like you could just always find me at the table

with leg crayons and Mark is in my pads of paper. Whatever

trying to recreate, like Charles Schulz Snoopy or like, whatever

we're doing, right is that? So to prepare for this, I signed up

for three of your different events. So I did, yeah, and the

reason why I'm doing this is this also goes on YouTube. And

before we start kind of talking about the process, I just wanted

to show people kind of like, what it might look like from

somebody who had never done it before, just like them, right?

So I did doodle your way to calm, clarity and joy, the one

you did with Mindy Peltz with Mindy, yeah. Okay, so that was

my first one that I did with you guys, when I was just learning I

was like, Okay, that was, that was really cool. Then I did a

new way to vision board. You just did that January, because I

had thoughts about vision boarding and how I felt about

vision boarding. But this, I'm going to tell you why I want to

dive into this. This one, I thought this was so cool. I

haven't finished it. But what, what I loved about this, we'll

discuss in a minute, because I want you to kind of break down

some of the elements. And then I also just did the the fantastic

meditation on anxiety relief, the spiral reset, meditation

one, yeah, I just did that. Isn't that fun? This one was

wicked fun too, and I loved it. So those of you who are

listening to this at home, if you're not watching, ha. Hop

over to YouTube so you can see these drawings, because it's so

not that my drawings are fantastic, but I want you to

have an idea, right? I want the listeners to have an idea of

kind of like, what, what we're talking about, but not

about it's really not about making the most beautiful

drawing. It's about making meaning, right? The marks are

meaning makers, right? So, so it doesn't have to look I make. I

used to make a joke that it doesn't have to look like

Picasso. But then again, Picasso puts eyeballs under your armpit,

right? So that's a bad example.

Well, you say, and I love this. All you need to do

is, you just need a pen and paper, and it's so simple, and a

few quiet minutes, and you just go in and you start the process,

and all the pressure is off. And for a kid who was a

perfectionist, as somebody who, like, you know, tried to control

things, that's why I found safety and all that stuff, my

nervous system when I'm doing these exercises, when I'm doing,

you know, the out of manifesting, as you call the am

method, I just find, like, my whole nervous system just kind

of like, quiets down and it relaxes like so much. Have you

found that? And you get that?

I did this. So I this came about because I had anxiety

during the pandemic. We were always we were doing all these,

like, big events online all the time, and I was giving really

too much, right? And yes, and I really feel the feelings of

everybody, and I needed an outlet, so I signed up for a

painting class. I never finished it, because I went off and did

my own thing. After, like, I think it was 13 steps, I did

four steps, and off I went, right? But anyway, I started

painting, and painting changed me. I was like, Oh my God, I

feel so much better. And I wasn't even thinking about

anything. So then I, year later, I broke my foot, and I couldn't

stand in front of my canvas. And I'm like, this is one of my

paintings behind me. Yeah. So anyhow, so I'm like, Okay, what

am I going to do? So I started going down the rabbit hole and

and I wanted to understand, why is it that doing art, same

thing? Because I'm a musician too, and making music, creating

music or doing art, but mostly just doing simple because this

is one, this is 1111 1111, prayer marks. This is all marks.

That's the thing behind me. Yeah. People sent him prayers,

and I would just mark the canvas until it became that, that

thing. So just marking, marking without any thought, right?

Mark, Mark, Mark, how that could just be, like, I let go and I'm

in a flow state where I couldn't make myself go there, because

half the time, whenever I get stressed out, I can't remember

my tapping. I can't remember what the hell things that even

I've come up with to help you, like, I don't remember the

protocols my brain goes, Yes, I needed something. And then I

then I did the research while I was in bed, I, you know, I

couldn't move. So I was like, Okay, where is this information?

And sure enough,

neuroscience, of it all neuroscience, exactly

which is what went into the book. Because, I mean, and I

know the book can be quite heavy, but I know that

manifestation has been taught by so many people, which is a head

exercise. It's talks about only in the head, yeah. And I wanted

it to be an embodied practice, because that's how I know it

works. Yes, right? So, so, but we also wanted the science

behind it, because there's enough naysayers as, oh, that's

just New Age gobbledy Crap. Yeah. I'm like, No, there's real

science behind this that really is true, and it's just the one

thing we don't understand is the universe. We it's always going

to be ineffable, until one day somebody figures it out.

Whatever. We don't understand consciousness with a capital C.

We don't know why synchronicities and coincidence

happen. All we know is that we're in a dialog with the

universe, and that's what this facilitates, but not in a

difficult way.

Yes, I simple Yes, and I think that's what I love

about it. So, you know, I'm a spiritual mentor and an

integrative coach and a hypnotist, whatever. So

neuroscience is part of my bag. So when you're saying it's

really heady, I didn't actually think it was that heady. I think

it's really clarifying for a lot of people. And I think for

people who you know, there's a there's a whole bunch of us that

are like, that's great, yeah, yeah, I'm making mocks on but

there's a whole population of people that are like, I want to

know why it works. Well, that's right, that's for, yeah, that's

how I, you know, I want to get behind the idea because, you

know, my I'm married to a professional musician, and so I

know that, and I'm a writer, so I know the power like art and

creativity for helping us. But one of the things I want to dive

into is something that you just said about manifestation.

Because my whole thing about manifestation is, I've always

been kind of, like, not that much of a fan and not just shit

on people. Like, I think that book The Secret, like, a bunch

of people learned about it that way. But I think what happened

is, is one of the things that I often say to people is like,

look, man. Fist thing the way that that was taught. I was

like, I was like, Look, God's not your fucking Aaron boy. No,

not great. We're not here to, like, just place your order at

dunks and then you sit back and wait for your riches and your

Maserati whatever, to come for you. I'm like, that's that's not

how it is. And then the other feelings that I had, and I'm

saying these, in case anybody else out there listening might

relate is I used to be like, Well, if you're grasping and

wanting and you need to manifest something, I'm like, first of

all, it assumes you're coming from a place of lack, run away.

It's gonna run away Exactly. So this is why I'm saying because I

want you to counter all these things. And then it's like,

there's also kind of that element where it's lacking

gratitude for what you already have. So what I loved about this

method, and each time I get to take a class with you, it's like

so fun, because I get to see it and learn it in a because, like

the thing with Mindy, the new vision board and the spiral

meditation, they're all little doorways into the deeper

practice. So I just wanted to keep experiencing it. But my

favorite thing that happened, and I'll hold up this again,

which I loved. So if you're not looking at this right now, you

guys, if you can only hear the sound of my voice, just imagine

that there's a mark, a.in the center of a page, okay, and then

around that.is a largest circle. But then on the outside of that

largest circle, there's a box. Now this was my favorite thing

about this whole thing to me, and please correct me if I'm

wrong. What I loved about this is this box represents to me.

I'm not saying this is what you taught, but my take on it was,

oh yeah. These are like, my limitations and beliefs. So my

dreams can't really go outside that line. That's the kid that

colors inside the lines. Now two things, and then I'm going to

shut up so you can talk. I remember. Well, first of all,

there's a line in A Course in Miracles that basically talks

about not, not that we shouldn't judge, but that we can't judge

because we don't know everything. We don't know have

all the information. Okay? And then number two, I remember once

when Oprah said, God dreams a bigger dream for me than I

dreamed for myself. Okay? What I loved about this again, you

guys, I'm pointing at the box, is it? I'll never forget, on the

thing, on the workshop, you said, Leave out, leave room on

the edges of the box, because that's where the co creation

with divine intelligence, that loving intelligence, the

universe, source, God, whatever you call it, right? Love lives.

And that to me, just like, literally, my creativity just

went like, and I'm like, Yeah, because I can't know everything.

I have no idea what's coming down the pike. I don't even know

what I'm capable of. So will you talk about that a little bit?

Yes, I'd love to. So let's go back now for

everything. You started this entire conversation talking

about the secret, yeah, and I love that you said it that way,

because I know that the universe is not Uber Eats, yeah, we know

that's right. But what, what it did was, at the time, we were in

a if you think about when it came out in 22,006 this is a

couple years before the big, crazy bank that, you know, the

whole, the shemazzle, yeah, the collapse, financial collapse.

And we were, since the 90s, we were very much in an

acquisitional mindset, right? Go get something. I'm going to go

get something. I'm going to, I'm going to make this thing happen.

Hustle, hustle, hustle. So it made sense that the people that

when they read that book, that's where they were coming from.

Anyway, I can see that and I can have it. So like you said, I'm

going to, I'm going to put my order in a Duncan's and wait for

it to show up, right? And, you know, like your Maserati, and I

love that. I can't do your accent, but it's so great. I

could listen to you talk all day. Anyway, so, and I got a

Canadian one, so whatever. So what happens is, is that you

have to unlearn that. Yes, um, right, you have, because that's

about control. That's not about co creation, right? That that

experience is is looking you are grabbing certainty and control.

That's what you want. You want to know that you can get what

you want right, and what you want is going to be that thing.

Now, definitely some, you know, things are easy to, quote,

unquote, get if you have no attachment to them and they're

just a thing. I always get a parking space. I always find the

thing in the store that I'm like, I just go, bang, put it

out there. I'm going to just go with my little nose. If it's

meant to be, be there. If it's not there, I don't give a shit.

Off I go. But the but when you look at this as a tool to co

create reality, you have to learn something new, and that is

what I have learned. Like I learned how to do all this stuff

40 years ago, when I got clean and sober, I went to Unity

Church, right? I did the Course in Miracles. I did a whole

shemazzle, right? And actually, I think Mary Ann had just done

her book a return to love, because I got sober. And I

think.

891, it came out. 9192

Yes, I got sober in 1986 so she was writing it Yes,

but it was like, okay, so I went to Unity. I got I learned all

this stuff about treasure maps and whatever, and they were

talking about alignment, right, but they didn't really explain

it that good. I still was like, I want that. Go, get it right. I

want it. I want it. I want it. I want it right. And so what? What

I learned, I've done over 40 of these vision boards, for

example. But what I learned, I kept challenging it. What's

missing here? What is missing if I look back on every because I

got literally every single thing that I put on the boards, the

things that were right for me came to came to be, but they

weren't always. 90% of the time were not anything the way I

thought they were going to be okay.

I'm going to be rude and interrupt because I

remember you told the story about your sweetie, how, like,

he was the total opposite of, like, what you would normally,

you know, like desire or whatever. Yeah.

So exactly, so that, but, but here's the thing, when

I tracked it, everything happened through

synchronicities. It didn't happen because Collette made it

happen. It didn't happen because I said, I want it now give it to

me. It happened because I became the person that could have the

thing that I said I wanted, and thank God I didn't get, like,

the record deal that I wanted so badly for 20 years when it came,

it would have destroyed me had I got this before, because the

music business ate me up and shoot like chewed me up and spit

me out. Yes, right? I mean, the whole thing, that's all I

wanted, was to be a singer songwriter, and I had a career

and stuff. And the career, the all the feelings that I wanted

that career to give me showed up in this weirdo career that I

only want. I used to tell people I don't really do this. I'm

really a singer. Don't come back next year. I don't do this,

right? Like, I don't really talk to dead people. Oh no. Like, I'm

just really good at picking out information and stuff. And

they're like, Well, I don't know, you know, I was like, No.

And the universe like, hello, see this over there? This is

kind of good, but no, anyway, so I'll tell you. So what I learned

was every single thing that I thought I believed that the like

the record deal, the things that I wanted were going to give me,

I got in a different way, in a form that was right for me, not

only right for me, it was 10 times better. I got a life

bigger than my wildest dreams. And guess what? I still do

music. I'm going to record on EP in two weeks. I love it. But you

know what? I mean, it's no longer my identity is no longer

dependent on that. So when people come to manifestation,

yeah, they, they, they have to let go the need for they have to

recognize the zone of synchronicity, which is what

that's called, by the way. And yes, the internal thing is the

limitations. But you know, in a vision board, when you put a

border, you act, you're doing it for a specific purpose, because

you're telling the universe you would like whatever you place

inside that border to come into form, because manifestation is

to call into ordinary reality, from non ordinary reality into

visibility, from invisibility. You want to see it materialize

so but you're right. That's a limitation. I don't know what I

could have beyond what my imagination.

Yes, that's how I meant it. That's how I mostly

meant it, is that, like my, my imagination is like this, right,

which is also a lot of that comes from your cultural, your

upbringing, your environment as a child, right? Like, if you, if

you don't think, right, I'm worthy of more than this, or

whatever your dreams will be. And I'm not saying everybody has

to have a wicked, big dream. But my point was, like, just with

that boundary, what I loved you called it, what the field of

synchronicity around it. And the zone of zone of synchronicity

like that is where the field, yeah, that, right, that, right.

Some people call it the quantum field, right? But that, to me,

is like, the divine intelligence is playground, and I'm like

that. I don't want to limit that. So that, to me, was that

missing piece that you were talking about,

but also the embodiment practice, because we stay in our

heads all the time, like most division, most talk, most

teachers teach manifestation from this level,

100% she's pointing at her head. You guys,

the neck up,

visualize, think about it, obsess about a stare at it.

Get really specific, right? And then very little is taught about

letting it go and not caring, okay? Because that's really

needed and but that's why a lot of people think it doesn't work.

But the truth is, you don't manifest what you want. You

manifest what you are. And some

Okay, Collette, hold on. I want them to hear

that very, very clearly. Will you say that line one more time,

please? For the people, I'm not first person to say this. I

know, I know,

but actually, I heard it first from Wayne Dyer. You

don't manifest what you want. Yes, manifest what you are. And

what that means is that your energy, the rehearsal state that

you are in, where you are constantly thinking about

things, the things that you rehearse over and over again,

your beliefs, your that's why it's so dangerous. Like, get off

social media. Get off the news. Like, don't let that decide for

you, your your narrative, right? But whatever narrative that you

keep telling over and over again is what's going to come to you,

because that's the frequency that you're sending out. You're

broadcasting, and then the field responds it. It responds back.

It always is responding to us. 24/7, you want something

different outside. You got to change the inside.

Okay? Perfect. Two things I want to, I want to do

so that the science equivalent of that is Rick Hansen, who

always says, neurons that fire together, wire together, right?

So if we're constantly, like, focusing on what we don't want,

it's like when you're a kid, right? And in the car and you're

playing that, like, all of a sudden, like, you don't notice

any of the little Volkswagens until somebody yells, punch

buggy, right? What you're looking for, that's all you see,

is like, punch buggy, punch buggy, punch buggy. But

sometimes, when you're focusing on what you don't want, your

fear, your doubt, your cynicism, whatever you know, it's

important that we, you know, check ourselves, because of that

negativity bias in the brain to be looking for the good, the

beautiful and the holy. You know what I mean? Sometimes it's

like,

it's harder, and it's harder because of the way we're

built. Yeah, right. We are built. The negativity bias

allows us to stay alive, right? So when we're on patrol looking

for potential threats, it's because we're trying to survive,

but we don't. We can't be intuitive, by the way, when

we're like that, we're in the instinct for survival. Intuition

depends on our curiosity, and seriously, really, really spot

on. Intuition comes with a regulated nervous system when

you just deliver, oh, hey boo, and you're curious. You can't be

curious when you're looking for something that there's a knife

around the it's like, where's that knife? Not like, Oh, I

wonder what's there exactly?

Well, the other my second one, my number two was

because you said the field, and when you just dive into that a

little bit, for people who might not know what what you're

talking about,

okay, so I'm going to talk about it in different

language, right? So, so if you, if you look at we are part of a

quantum field, so let's go to quantum science, which means

we're not separate from each other. It's very hard to imagine

that, because I see you and your pink sweater over there, and you

see me and my green sweater over here, and I'm not there and

you're not here, and therefore we're separate, right? That's

like we are built also kind of weird. I don't understand why

they built us like this, but whatever is that we can't see,

that we're not that our connections, we can't really see

that. So not only that, we've all been raised to see

everything is separate, right, including consciousness, but if

you go to the quantum field and you see that literally

everything is connected all the time. So let's take the word

quantum out of it, because then we get all too weird about,

like, what is quantum science? But how about just looking at

and Lynn McTaggart is the perfect author you guys to read.

She has a book called The intention experiment and a book

called the field, and she's a science researcher. Fabulous

books. It's like you're going on a mystery adventure, and you

start to realize that there is a proven field of connection that

that exists in the world between all biological that we can tell

even the grass is sentient. It feels us and me can play music

and all kinds of weird shit that you go like, I don't understand

that, but you just have to just go with me on this. Yes. So the

invisible world, just because we can't see it doesn't mean it's

not there.

Double Amen, hands, yes, I'm with you, right?

Yep.

So if we can imagine it, we can we can bump into it

pretty easy, because part of our brain's job, the reticular

activating system of the brain, is to guide our eyes to what we

have rehearsed as true. It's a way, it's a it's a feedback

system to say, Okay, well, you believe all the fear that we had

like it's a bouncer at a party. It'll only let in the fear

people because and then it goes, see over there more reasons to

be afraid. Bring them into the party. But now, when you start

to rehearse gratitude, which is what we talk about in the book,

and you have to make a discipline of doing that for

nothing, no other reason, just to be in that state of being,

all of a sudden, he kicks everybody out of the party and

goes like, okay, all you grateful people, you know,

great, grateful experiences. Come on in, and I'm going to

show you. I'm gonna light up the runways. You got to go there.

You would have gone over there, but now you're in this you're in

this frequency. We're showing you all this because the world

has everything. The world does not just have what we are being

fed on media, like we're being fed garbage, food.

Okay, like this world, table scraps. Man, table

scraps.

Yeah, not even, yeah, not even, and. And for a reason,

it's like, if you keep a population afraid and divide it

easy to easy

to control us, so don't

do that. The thing is, it's like, okay, fine, I'm not.

I'm powerless to change any of that. But this and that can both

be true. I can be an absolute immense gratitude while all that

shit is going on, and I can still see the runway of where I

need to go for the miracle. The miracles are endless, and they

are there. They are always there. We have to become that,

that person who is, I always say to myself, who would I need to

be, to have that, to have that experience I want, right, like I

would need to be. Would I need to be different at all? Would I

need to be fearless? Would I need to be so then it's like

acting. It's like, okay, who would, who would Collette be in

those shoes? Yes, you know? Oh, sorry,

go ahead. No. Robert dramas, Tagore, he says

this great quote that I share with my clients, and he says,

everything that belongs to you, everything that is yours, will

come to you if you create the capacity to receive it correct

any right. Does that make sense? So like, what it's vibe like?

And what you're saying is, like, who would I have to be in order

to whether you want to call it, attract or relate to or that

same energetic field or vibe that it will happen. And so

often we're looking from that place of lack or fear or

whatever, that's going to fix me, that thing, yes, I'm broken.

We have that idea, quote, unquote, we're broken. This

thing is going to fix me. I need this to be whole, happy,

healthy, healed, holy, whatever the thing is. And it's like, we

forget, and if we can bring ourselves into it, and that's

why I love it. But, like, I love all of it, but I think the thing

I love most is that it's fun and flowing, and it's funny, it's

wicked fun and like, so on that note, and this might be a little

weird. I've never done this on a podcast before, but people are,

like, loving the book, and so I went to like, Amazon, like, I

want to check out some of these reviews, and I'm gonna

read I never read them. I know very wicked out because I

don't read them.

I know I'm gonna read you a good one, because

you're getting a fantastic review. But why I'm also reading

it is it kind of breaks down the book a little bit. So it's not

too long, but just hear it. Yeah, this person said, If you

love creative outlets and are interested in manifestation, in

the power of the mind, Colette Baron reads book The Art of

manifesting is right up your alley. It's not just another

manifestation book. It introduces the this thing called

the out of manifesting method, the am method, which is

basically, and you can correct any of this if this person get

it wrong, but which is basically a meditative Drawing Practice.

The whole idea is that you use intentional, simple drawings

like circles and flowy lines as a tool to literally rewire your

brain and create the reality you want. It blends creativity some

all my favorite things right here. It blends creativity and

spirituality with an interesting bit of neuroscience explaining

how you can use this simple act to carve out new neural pathways

break old patterns and align your intentions with the

universe. Wow, I know. Well, listen, this is great. This

person, I love them, and includes a gentle seven week

guide that walks you through the seven steps of manifestation

using guided drawings, meditation and journaling. It

reminds me, in some ways, of Julia Cameron's, you know, the

honest way, and that you don't, I know, it says and that you

don't need to be an artist to enjoy the benefits of using

these techniques. All you need is a pen and paper. If you're

looking for a peaceful, joyful and deeply creative way to

manifest change and feel more like the shaper of your destiny,

you would absolutely love this.

Wow, they should get 10 free books. Here's what's been

happening. So okay, so I'm really glad that you're a total

nerd, too. So, you know, I just been told, before I got on the

show, that by somebody else, that this book might be too

smart. And I'm like, Oh, really, no. Anyway, yeah, good, thanks.

Okay, so then I'm like, I don't write for everybody, but

whatever, here we go. So when the book came out, you know,

this is, people don't expect me to write a book on art. They

would expect me to write about oracles or something like that.

But this is really my jam, and I've been obsessed with this for

two years before I got a book deal on it, because I started, I

just started teaching people this thing. Then I hooked up

with Anna Denning, and we added two components that weren't

there before, which was the Reiki in the beginning, like the

Yeah, the hands, how you doesn't that feel amazing anyway? So,

and then the two of us, because I knew I needed a partner, and

she just showed up. We both met. Manifested the other one anyhow.

So people started having parties. My girlfriend in LA

called me, and she goes, I need a box of books. I'm having a I'm

having a party. I'm inviting everybody over. And so they all

did it, and then, and then one of the women at the party. So

there were, like 15 of them. She had a brunch, was hosting a

brunch. She bought the books and did it at brunch. And what they

did was use seed paper. So seed paper, these pieces of paper

that have wild flowers, yes, squished in it. And so what

they're going to do is paint. Is they're going to draw their, you

know, their desire. Like, really, the desired outcome is

feelings. Like, it's really about how do you want to feel.

You can put something on there, like money or whatever you want,

right? But the end of the day, it's how do you want to feel,

and what is it that you're trying to express through you?

Right? Yeah. Anyway, so they're all planting their things in

these little planters. So, but it's taken off as a party thing

with women, mostly women. I don't know any guys that are

doing it. Well, no, that's not true. I have two men come to an

event in Spain, and they do a drawing with us. And my husband

loves doing this to him and his friend, but it's mostly women

that come. But anyhow, so they, it's the, it's the coming

together with friends, yes, and sitting at the table talking

about, well,

I had my best friend. I wrote to my best

friend. I was like, Katie, you got to hop on this. You know,

the one in January about the art of benefit, the new way of,

like, Vision boarding. I said, hop on this. I go, what did you

think? She's like, I loved it. And I was like, I mean, I'm

this. I'm like, I pay attention, working closely. So I'm like, Oh

yeah, I could figure out the steps. I got the book, whatever.

But then I saw that you and Anna are actually doing a teacher

training on this. Yes, our first teacher training. I'm like, I

don't know, maybe I want to do that. That sounds wicked.

Well, you can come to the one in June. Hay House is

running the June one. This was our beta group. So we ended up,

we thought we were going to get 20 teachers. We had 150

applicants. Wow. We didn't even tell anybody. We just sort of

announced it under the, you know, well, you know, we talked

about it anyway. So we ended up taking just under 50. And the

idea is that we, you know, we want people to become

ambassadors, but we get really nerdy in that one like every

single step we go into the background, where it's shown up

in different cultures, why this is part of us and why it

actually works, and and then we just do a simple like, here's

how you would run a group, you know, like, and then make sure

everybody in the group gets a book. But we're having so much

fun too. Yeah? Like, yeah. You know, learn. If you become a

teacher, it's really about the why we why we train you is so

you understand what you're doing. It doesn't really go

through all that really deeper layers that in the book at all,

like we have nerd alerts in the book. Hey, nerd alert. This is

what neuroscience says and but you go really and we were even

amazed ourselves, like we still can't get over it. Me and her

we're, like, we freaking manifested this. Wow.

I think it's so cool that actually, you know,

that the two of you, like, came together, you know, because

you're both artists in your own way. Yeah, it's incredible. And

one of the things I also loved about the seven steps is, like,

it's not passive, like you have like, number four, activate your

intention. Number six, create an action plan. And then seven,

like, surrender to the universe, like you got to let go of

whatever you think the thing is, right. So I love the seven

steps. I think it's such a smart and fun and if you're nerdy, and

you can geek out on some of the things and understand like, and

I think all of us like, when you think back to where we were

kids, when you're just on the phone and you would just doodle,

or you'd be fine, you're imagining, that's that's just

your daydreaming and your imagination, which is literally

when you're shifting out of that like beta state, and you're

dropping into like alpha and theta, where the Imagination is

and everything becomes possible, and to be guided in such a

simple and fun way, like I'm saying, like, I was just, like,

even when I was just doodling on the anxiety one, I'm like, Oh,

this would be so great for my clients who have anxiety. It's

just such a little thing, you know, like to do. And I just, I

just think it's so fantastic. And I love that. It's, oh,

sorry, were you gonna say something?

No, no. It's like, well, I of course always want to

say something. You and I are the same, like, we just want to

talk. No, but it's, I think what you nailed was the fact that it

is fun and it enables you to get out of that. It's a stress

response. And I think everybody right now. I don't care what you

Yes, you are. All of us have been under sustained uncertainty

for such a long time now, and the body has not been created to

experience dysregulation that way all the time. And then now

it becomes, if you look at the internet like, I don't have

Tiktok, I think it's an assaulting thing, so I don't

have. Of it, but I know, apparently I'm on it, but my

team has me on there, yeah, but it's like, I do know that other

on if I look at Facebook or Instagram where I am, I'll see

ads for you know, you know, like, shred and and regulate

your system. So that becomes a chore. Like, we don't need more

like work. We need flow, like right now. We need a very easy,

feminine way to get get regulated. That's fun, and we

can let go, and we don't have all these rules and, you know,

and and we we can just make marks. And when we make those

marks with intention, you know, then synchronicity. And then the

whole point of this entire exercise is that you start to

notice that the universe responds to you, and if nothing

else, it answers you in ways like my favorite story is. So

this was the first book I've ever written. I've written eight

books and 19 times, and I never, ever in a million years,

expected in New York Times bestseller, nor really wanted

one, because I just didn't think that was my thing, right? But

this is the first time I thought, yeah, this book could

do that one day. So I write, do a little drawing, and then I

show my head of my brand at Hay House. And I said, you know, I

think I am going to, because I've been saying, Oh, I don't

care about that. I'm going, you know, it would be nice. I think

it would be really cool if I got one. So I did a little New York

Times drawing in my drawing and I and then I showed her, and we

had a laugh. You had figured, in a couple years, maybe I don't

know, right? And then two hours later, my Beth writes me, and it

says, The New York Times would like to invite you to teach

their staff.

I remember you telling this story. Keep going.

It's so good, right? That's teach

our staff, like in their healthy times program. I

mean, the motive behind this was New York Times and reach more

people. It right that because that's what I thought would

happen if I got a New York Times bestseller. That means lots of

more people would see the book. But the truth is, I really

wanted New York Times, and I wanted more people. Well,

there's probably 15 people going to be there, and it's the New

York Times, I got exactly what I asked for, right? And I'm like,

oh. And I think the only reason it happened is because the

universe said you need a good story to tell people. And that

is the perfect example of letting go the attachment to the

form and and seeing all of it as an adventure. Like, wow. Like,

surprise me. I was very surprised.

Yeah, I love that. I mean, these are some of your

words that you that went on this, on this drawing, on this

one, where I wrote some of the things you did. You wrote

surprise me. Thank you. Wow, wow, wow. Divine Will big

surprise. Spirit has. Spirit have a plan. It's like spirit

has a plan. Gratitude, love, reciprocity, the zone of

synchronicity. Gratitude bubbles, like all of it, and

it's like it's so what I love so much about the process too, is

whenever you're doing the little gratitude bubbles and you're

just training your brain, you know, Meister Eckhart says, if

the only prayer you ever say in your life is thank you, it will

be enough. Yeah, when you're just saying thank you, thank

you. Thank you. With those little bubbles, thank you, thank

you, you literally start to feel a shift inside of you. Yeah,

it's incredibly it's, I mean, it's practical, it's powerful,

it's super duper fun. You just get out your favorite Mac is

your favorite paper, it is. It's like being a little kid again. I

mean, we're circling back to where we started, but it's

intentional and but what I love about it is it's intentional

without the tight grip, exactly no but it's open. I always say,

like, love doesn't happen in this state. I'm clenching my

fist, you guys. It happens like

open open handed, and we did it when Anna and I got

together. Like Anna came from. She's also an esthetic coach.

And she's, she used to teach a Russian form of line art. She

teaches lots of different line arts, right? But, and I had kind

of dabbled and looked to see if I like it, and I didn't like it

because it was too many rules, because it was too heavy, yeah.

And then I thought, then I loved Zentangle that was very mindful.

It was its own thing. And then, you know, like, all their own

things. There's noodle No, not

noodles, neurography, yeah, there's neuro

doodles, neurographica. And so, you know, there's lots

of different types of these intentional art processes. And

so when she and I got together, I said to her, I said, what I

really want is something where people don't feel that, that

news, that that of perfectionism, that they could

feel looser and feel freer and more liberated and more unique

to them, right? That it was something that, like, there's a

lot in the you're not allowed to put glitter. I If you want to

throw glitter all over your Go right ahead. You know what I

mean? It's like there are no rules, like, oh, I wanted no

rules, because I hate rules, but there has to be containers. So

our steps were the container that that invited in the

experience. Right then those steps, I swear to God, we

literally both just prayed her and I, like, I. Watched a video

with her. This happened, so I joined her membership, and I

didn't like the the rule based stuff, but she had other things

that was very not rule based. She was like, doing all kinds of

really cool things. So I just joined her membership, and one

day there was a video of her talking about doing a drawing,

about her work and bringing in. I don't know who's coming in,

but I feel someone is coming. I don't know how it's going to

expand my work. Then I'm looking at it going, it's, it's, and it

turned out she had my cards. She didn't look at who signed up to

her, what her thing, right? So she didn't know I was in there.

And i fall i Anyway, I wrote her and I said, like, how can we

have a call? Like, my name is Colin parmi. She goes, What's

your and she has, she had a stack of my oracle cards and

everything. And I just said, this is what I feel. And I know

this sounds crazy, but I've been obsessed with this, this, I've

made my own thing and but I don't think it's finished. And,

you know, want to come in and then her and I both were doing

two things that were not in the present, the way the present

state of what I was teaching. I was like, Oh, my God, this is

it. And then Hay House offered us, me, well, offered me the

book deal, and I brought her in, yeah, yeah.

It's so fantastic. And that's what I'm saying. It's

like, you can't make this shit up. Like, it's like, you just

don't. And I talk about it all the time, I'll say, Oh, the

assignment is alignment. And, you know, I was raised by like,

My nana. Well, I have like, a step side of the family. I'm

not, apparently, not an Italian kid or Portuguese kid, but I'm

an Irish kid who was also raised in family. You know, with

Italian Portuguese my little Nana was like, I call her like a

little Italian witch. And she used to, she used to do, like,

the malookies. And she taught me, like, how did you know she

would do the evil and like, yeah, exactly, evil eye,

exactly. And like, she taught me how to, like, bless houses and

do these little things. So I grew up in a family that grew up

knowing psychics, friends with these people who had these

gifts, and so it was very normalized for me, but I know

for a lot of people, it's like, Ooh, what's this? Like, woo,

woo, stuff. And I just think there's something boo poo, the

woo, woo. I always say what I say, I go, it's not woo, woo.

It's true, true. That's what I always say, yeah. But I just

love that, that you're bringing this to, like, a wider audience,

in a way that I think is, yeah, yeah. You know what it is, it's

smart, but, you know, smarty pants can also be super fun. You

know what? I mean? It doesn't have to be like, terrible or

wicked hot, but I

know it's also sorry. I think it's also, you know,

people tend to be superstitious about this because of their

religious upbringing. Yeah, and like, I have two, well, one

woman who works for me, who runs my membership is a Bible study

teacher, like, very Christian, like, you can make Jesus your

manifesting partner if you want. Like, it's like, that's the

other thing. It's like, if you believe, if you are going to

hold space and believe that, that this is true for you, then

this is going to show up for you. I mean, that's how I

learned this in Unity Church, right? And it's non

denominational. And I'm, I mean, I think if I wasn't this, I

would have been an interfaith minister, because I was really

fascinated with that. But this universe had better plans. Yes,

I'm so interested in what, what is it that, because there is a

mystical quality to Islam, to to Judaism, to Christianity.

There's all. Every single faith construct I believe you too, has

that more gnostic, you know, you know, personal connection. Right

from the beginning of time, we've been trying to figure out

our relationship to that which is unknowable. That's right,

right? The ineffability of God. Yes, I don't have a problem with

that word me, right? Yeah. So it's like, for me, it's God. You

know, I'm like, I surrender my will in my life over the care of

God as I understand God, and then I ask God to use me as thou

wilt. And I used to go use me as thou wilt. PS, I want a record

deal, but that's yes. I have ideas. In case you're curious,

yeah, in case you're too busy, I have a list,

yes, in case you want to consult with me. Yeah,

hey, I have some ideas. You know what? I mean? Yeah, I agree with

everything you're saying,

and I liked something you said earlier. I don't think

everybody needs a big, giant dream, right? What the hell is a

big, giant dream anyway, right? It's, it's important that you

have your dream. It's important that, because, guess what? Like

I got here from years and years and years. I used to charge $20

an hour for my readings. I thought that was I moved it to

25 and I thought I was going to throw up because I thought that

was too much, right? Like I came from, I mean, I didn't. I came

from privilege prior to that, but then we lost everything, and

I was I had poverty experiences too and like but for me, it was

never about that. It was about feeling that I had my life had

meaning, and that's really what all of us want. We want a life

that's got meaning. We want love in our lives. We want to be in

awe and. And gratitude, wonder and create and

wonder.

Yeah, that's what I want to boil it down to. And I

because I think we all got very complicated look at about right

yeah, pretty fucked up right now.

Let's just be the world is so fucked up right now.

And which leads me back to something that you said, which I

want to reiterate for people, and then I know I gotta let you

go because you have a hot stop. But yeah, thanks. Yeah, you're

welcome. Keeping up track of the time of yeah, if you see my eyes

looking up, that's what I'm looking at. But when you are in

a constant state of when the sympathetic nervous system right

that fight and flight, I'm not teaching you, I'm just I'm

saying this for the listeners, when you're in that constant

fight or flight, where you're feeling triggered or activated

or in fear or whatever, like something that you said, which

is like, that's why you don't remember to do your EFT tapping

and your 478, breath, and your havening and your stroking,

right? Like all the tools, where the hell did you go? All the

tools go out the window when you're when you're in that fear

state. And one of the great things about this work is it

literally turns on parasympathetic nervous system.

It literally invites in the relaxation response without

having to overthink it. It's like literally pick up a pen,

pick up some paper, start to make the marks, and you

literally just feel a shift inside of you. And for those of

you who are listening, Colette and Anna are actually doing a

live, immersive virtual experience on sun, Saturday,

March 7, you can sign up for that. All her links will be in

the show notes. You guys, you'll be able to find everything. But

before I let you go, I just want to ask you, is there anything I

didn't ask you that you wish I had anything I didn't bring up

that you wish we had talked about.

I just think you're awesome. And I never come in

here thinking that. I just believe that whatever comes out

of our mouths is exactly what needed to come out. Yeah, me

too.

I trust. I trust. Okay, I just wanted to make sure

you were amazing. I loved you. Thank you, sweetheart. I have

coffee with you. I know, I know I'll have to find each other

somehow. Look, our paths will cross in real life. I believe

that. I believe that. But so you guys look at you. Got to get

this book. I know so many of you already love all of her tarot

cards, like the animal spirit ones. Yep, her book. Go get this

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second. It's so fantastic. Sign up for the Saturday March 7 if

you want to experience this yourself, so you can have your

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is. And as a yoga teacher, since like 1999 the embodied

experience is what we're really looking for. And I'm telling

you, if you, if you turn yourself over to the process, I

believe that you, you will have a shift, and you will experience

what we're talking about. It's not just like, like, just give

it a try. Is all I'm saying. It's so cool. And is there your

favorite way to have people contact you or connect with you

on Instagram, Facebook and Instagram and Facebook don't

go to Tiktok. I mean, it's there, but whatever. I don't

understand it. But yeah, Instagram, Facebook, my website,

actually, if you sign into my newsletter, you get a bunch of

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saying it's

wicked fun. Well, it is wicked fun. Look at the

drawings, you know. And I will tell you this too, for those of

you who are listening, go to, if you go to wherever, you can buy

books online, right? I'm not going to say the name, but a lot

of the reviews, people are also submitting next to the reviews.

They're at work, and it's amazing. They are. I have a,

yeah, I have, like, four pictures on my desktop right

here. I was pulling them, and I have to look. Yeah, so the

reviews have been lovely, and people are putting incredible

pictures on there too. So you guys, if you want to check

it out, I don't like to look, in case. I understand, you

know what I mean.

I understand people are weird. I am not

always nice. No, people are people can be kind of dicks

sometimes. You know what I'm saying. All right, so I gotta

let you Oh, my God, please, will you just introduce everybody?

I want to say me and be Zoo. Would like to say bye, and

if you see us, if you can see us right now, this is my little

baby, and she's being called for supper. You want to get numb?

Numbs with daddy.

You guys, if you just saw the little creature

that she held in your hands. You know, I'm a mess right now. I'm

dying. I'm obsessed. Colette, thank you so much for being

here. I always end my show by saying, wherever you go, may you

leave the people and the animals and the place and the

environment better than how you found it. Wherever you go, may

you and your energy and your presence and your love be a

blessing.

Bye. You are awesome. Hey.

Thanks so much for listening to the show. I really

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