Feb. 5, 2026

BEWARE OF THE INFLUENCERS

BEWARE OF THE INFLUENCERS

On this episode of The Karen Kenney Show, I talk about how important it is to think for yourself - especially in the age of influencers, grifters, and bro-science “experts” - including those being revealed in the Epstein files.

I share a little modern-day PSA about being on the lookout for online scams, shady spiritual teachers, coaching programs with “culty” vibes, and podcasters who try to sell us an image, rather than the truth.

I add in a favorite Bruce Lee quote about how a “good teacher protects you from their own influence” and will do their best to keep pointing you back to your own Inner Teacher, intuition, discernment, and critical thinking!

You’ll hear why we’ve gotta’ trust our gut, notice the red flags, and stop giving our power away just because someone is good at marketing, has a wicked big platform, or has published a bestselling book.

My hope is that this episode encourages you to unfollow what feels off, ask better questions, and surround yourself with a few trusted people who will lovingly point out your blind spots

Most of all, I want you to remember that you already have an internal guidance system that’s pretty damn smart… and it’s OK - when we learn new information - to say, “I made a mistake. I was wrong,” then course-correct, and choose better for yourself going forward. ❤️

KAREN KENNEY BIO:

Karen Kenney is a certified Spiritual Mentor, Writer, Podcaster and Coach.She’s known for her dynamic storytelling, her sense of humor, her Boston accent, and her no-bullshit approach to spirituality, self-development, and transformational work.

She’s has been a yoga teacher since 1999, and a Thai Yoga Massage practitioner since 2008. She’s a speaker, workshop + retreat leader, and a certified Gateless Writing Instructor. She’s also the host of The Karen Kenney Show podcast.

KK coaches clients individually in her 1:1 program THE QUEST and in her personalized HEART-TO-HEART DAY via Voxer. She also leads a group program and community called THE NEST.

Her down-to-earth approach brings together tools, resources, and stories that coach both the conscious and unconscious mind.

She offers a fun and effective combination of Integrative Coaching and Spiritual Mentorship that shifts perceptions, invites self-awareness, and deepens self-knowledge… paired with powerful, science-based pattern interrupts, anxiety-stoppers, and research-backed protocols that train your brain.

Her work is designed to encourage independence (not co-dependence) for her clients and to help people learn to better understand, support, and trust themselves!

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Hey you guys, welcome to the Karen Kenney

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show. I'm wicked excited to be here with you, and I'm going to

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tell you, I just, I'm just going to, oh my God, Jesus, help us.

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I'm just going to keep this one like, probably pretty short. I'm

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considering this episode just like a little PSA, little PSA,

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from my heart to yours, from my brain to yours. And for, maybe

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for some of the younger viewers, right? Like those are the people

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who are Gen X, who are like my generation. You remember the

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PSAs? A PSA is a public service announcement for those of you

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who might be a little bit younger and you're like, what's

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a PSA? Because so many people don't watch live TV. I don't

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even know if they do PSAs anymore, but back in the day,

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when we were kids, teenagers, whatever, you'd be watching TV,

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and all of a sudden it'd be like, this is a PSA. This is a

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public service announcement, and this is what it is. And I got

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the exact language so I wouldn't mess it up. So a PSA was a

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message that was add or published at no cost to the

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public. So this is basically it was to the purpose of a PSA was

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to serve the public interest. It wasn't for profit by some

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company. Some company wasn't making money off of making this

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announcement, right? And it often had sponsors, like

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nonprofit organizations or grassroot movements or sometimes

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it was the government Okay, and it was usually done over TV or

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radio or web or print or whatever. And what it was used

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for was to raise public awareness about a significant

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social issue, to educate people or to encourage positive

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behavior change, which is really kind of cool. And these

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campaigns aim to influence attitudes on topics like health

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or safety or literacy or environmental protection. And it

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kept it very simple. It used clear, concise and sometimes

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emotionally impactful messaging to prompt action. Now, growing

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up, some of the things that we heard about, we learned, Smokey

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the Bear, right? Only you can prevent forest fires, right? So,

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where there is forest fire prevention, there was drunk

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driving awareness. Friends. Don't let friends drive drunk,

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right? There were health screenings. They would tell

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people to get checked, you know, for cancer or for heart disease

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or, like, whatever they were like, sometimes ads about

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animals, like making sure you get your animals neutered or

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spayed, and things like that. And then, obviously there were

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things about environmental conservation, so PSAs were,

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like, always really helpful in a very normal pot of us growing

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up, I think as adults right now, I think of as people right now

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who are kind of experiencing and being bombarded by so much

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information on the interwebs, like every time you turn around,

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your phone is literally like a tiny computer, right? People are

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on their phones all the time. We all know this, right? So we are

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constantly bombarded from our phones, from the internet, from

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TV, whatever. You have all these people that are Hawking their

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way as you have all these people that are quote, unquote,

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influences, right? And I did a podcast so long ago, and I

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basically said we're all influences, meaning we all

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influence each other in our day to day lives based on how we're

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showing up, how we're talking to each other, how we're presenting

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if we're being kind, if we're being dicks, what we're selling

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like what we're doing, we are all constantly influencing each

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other. But now there is a whole group of Grifters, right?

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There's a whole bunch of people out there Hawking their wares.

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And if you are unawares, right, I say that I know bad grandma.

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I'm doing it on purpose. But if you are unawares right, about

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like these people, it is so easy right to get hurt, to get

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harmed, to get screwed, to get scammed, to get taken advantage

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of, like, whatever. I mean, I know people not. I would say my

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family, adjacent, older women, who are totally, totally being

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scammed by online dudes pretending to be these young,

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hot men who want relationships with them, and these people are

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sending them money. I'm like, Oh my God. And here's the other

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thing you know right now, with all the Epstein file stuff,

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right names, big names are coming out, the names of of male

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bro science influences, and everybody thought, who just had

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books coming out. And everybody loves them. They have millions

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of followers, and you start to realize, Oh, this guy was pals

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with Jeffrey Epstein, even after the whole world knew that he had

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basically trafficked young women for prostitution. This guy is a

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is a level one, whatever class sex offender, and we're still

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going to be pals with him. I guess the. The only purpose of

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this message today, like I said, this is my little personal PSA

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is I cannot encourage you enough to do your homework, do your due

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diligence, and nobody really is going online. Right to how do I

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say this to basically tell you what a shit bag they've been,

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what a deviant they are, what a like, what like, what a like, a

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sick person they are, right? Everybody's out there like

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Hawking their wares. And I started thinking about this when

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I saw the word influence. There's a quote that I love from

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Bruce Lee, and he says, A good teacher can never be fixed in a

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routine. Each moment requires a sensitive mind that is

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constantly changing and constantly adapting. A teacher

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must never impose this student to fit his favorite pattern, a

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good teacher. Listen to this line. A good teacher protects

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his pupils from his own influence. A good he says, a

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teacher is never a giver of truth. He is a guide, a pointer

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to the truth that each student must find for himself. He says,

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I'm not teaching you anything. I just help you to explore

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yourself. I 100,000% agree. You heard me. If you listen to my

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podcast the last couple of weeks, I always say, I as a

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teacher of anything, I am not interested in creating

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codependence. I am interested in creating independence. I always

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say, any good teacher who's teaching something right an

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external teacher, because I believe we all have internal

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teachers. I think we all have this knowing, this divine

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intelligence. Yes, there are things that we need to learn

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from other people, because we don't have that skill set like,

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really, I'm talking like tangible physical skills, right?

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We do often need external teachers to teach us very

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specific physical skills. And within us, we also have a divine

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intelligence. Some people might call this intuition, some people

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might call it gut instinct. You can call it spirit, Holy Spirit.

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You can call it divine intelligence. You can call, I

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always say, you know, GPS, God's pretty smart, right? There is a

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part of us that is usually aware, oh, this person isn't

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safe. Oh, this person, like, you get that funny feeling, but then

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you just want to, like, push it away, right? All the red flags

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come up, and you go, no, well, so and so says they're nice. So

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and So says me. I reserve. I reserve. I can't usually tell

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how I feel about a person until I meet them, either in person or

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I have some sort of a zoom call or whatever, but I like to get

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my eyeballs on people and put them in a room with people, and

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I like to see how they act all throughout the day, because it's

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really easy to get on stage and to get online and pretend that

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you're a certain kind of person, when in your day to day life,

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you are not that person.

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And you you sell, you sell a good you like you do a good job

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selling, selling this idea of you, but that is not who you

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really are. And I just think that right now online, it is

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rampant. It is rampant. And I said, you know, a lot of times

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we give our power away to quote, unquote influences, to people

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you see online that have a huge following, or just had a book

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come out or whatever, and and I'm always like, these are just

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regular people who get wicked good at marketing, or they hire

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a marketing team to help them craft a brand. And I jokingly

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say to my friends, remember when people? Remember when we weren't

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brands? Remember when we were all just like people. We're all

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just like normal people. And so as stuff continues to come out

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and come down in the Epstein files, and names are going to be

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named, and I'm just like, You guys look, you're going to start

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to get a little disappointed, you're going to start to get a

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little like, horrified. You're going to be like, Oh my God,

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that guy or that person or whatever. Yep, them too. So I

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just want to say, please use your critical thinking. Please

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use your discretion. Don't just follow people willy nilly. I go

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in all the time and I look at stuff and I'm like, I don't even

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know who this person is. Like, I don't even remember this person.

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When did I follow this person? Like, whatever. And I'm just

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like, unfollow, unfollow, unfollow, unfollow. And you just

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start to realize a lot of times, people with wicked, big

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platforms, like I said, they're just regular people who got

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quote, unquote internet famous. It doesn't mean you should be

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taking their medical advice, their health advice, they. Of

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relationship advice or advice on mental health or spirituality or

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anything. There's a lot of Grifters out there. It's a lot

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of people that can just hang a shingle, call themselves a thing

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and start selling their fucking supplements, or whatever, you

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know, their pyramid schemes and like all that stuff. And because

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people, we know how much influence there is out there,

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because we hear these horrifying, these heartbreaking

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stories all the time of young men and women, young people,

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right, harming themselves, dying via suicide, right and alive in

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themselves because of pressure or things that they're the

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comparing that they're doing, or the things they were told all of

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it, and it just it breaks my heart. A good teacher protects

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his pupils from his own influence, and that's what I

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have always told my yoga students, too. I'm like, don't

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take my word for it. You've got to try things and experience

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things for yourself so you can figure out what's true for you,

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so you can come to realize what's true for you. And I've

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always said, like external teachers, what any good external

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teacher is doing is we're pointing it's like what Bruce

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Lee says, but I've said it a little differently, which is,

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all we're doing is we're pointing back at your own

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internal teacher. So when people start to do like, and I think

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I've mentioned this before in the past, like, you know, in

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yoga culture, you add the word like, the letters j, i after

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somebody. So somebody might call, be called like, they'd

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say, Oh, this is my guru. This is Guru, G, right? And

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sometimes, well, there was this period of time where somebody

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was calling me Karen, G, and I was like, no, no, no, no, no,

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no, no, nobody's guru, Nope, just a white chick from Lawrence

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mass. Nobody's guru. Just don't put me up there. Don't put me up

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on the pedestal. Because I am human and I am clumsy sometimes,

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and I am fallible and I screw up, and I will just let you

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down. Do us both a favor, and don't try to put that on me. My

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greatest job is to Yes, I can share through my own lived

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experience. I can share through my my learning, my training,

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right? All the work that I've done to study and to research

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and to come to try to understand some things, but I am not the

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authority on other people in their life. All I can do is say,

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Hey, have you thought about this? This is what I learned.

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This is what I experienced. Here's this book. This is what

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my teacher taught me. What do you think? Right? I can ask

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really good questions so that a person can decide and decipher

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and discern for themselves what they believe. And it's getting

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extra fucking weird out there, and it's also getting more and

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more and more suspicious and dangerous. And I'm like, I

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believe in the goodness the core, goodness of human beings,

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of humanity. I believe that at our core who we truly are is

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love and kindness and compassion. But I also believe

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that a veil, a thick and heavy veil, has been pulled down over

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so many of our own eyes, and we forget this truth about

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ourselves. We forget who we are and the temptation in this world

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to behave and really

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unethical, awful, brutal

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Ponzi scheme, greedy, bat shit, bullshit ways

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is so strong, right? The pull is so strong, like when I think

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about the metaphors of of Star Wars, right? The dark side,

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right? The dark side is really strong out there. So this is a

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time, you guys, when I just want to keep encouraging you and

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empowering you to think for yourself. Don't drink the Kool

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Aid. Don't just buy everybody's stuff because, oh, and I'm

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trying not to name names, because my big thing is not

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about, like, calling out people. And I mean, obviously I'll talk

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about, like, certain, certain people and politicians, right?

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When I'm saying something specific about that. But all you

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have to do is Google, you'll find out who I'm talking about.

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The latest name, the bro science longevity coach guy, right? It's

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like these guys, all these male bro science podcasty, promoting

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each other. And then you find out, like, Oh, they're in this

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network of like sickness, like, this is not soothing. This is

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not good. So it's just again, I just want to encourage you to do

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your homework, do your research, find, listen, listen and trust

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your own intuition, your own in a teacher, your own internal

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guidance system when things feel off, and not only online, but

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also their people are grifting in, you know? And here's the

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other thing, too, when you look at a lot of the big names, some

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of these women too, who have podcasts, who have best selling

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books, where they basically stole ideas from other people.

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And now. Trying to trademark, I'm gonna make a shit ton of

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money. The thing is about knowing a lot of people. You

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know, I tend to know a lot of people. And I used to live in

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LA, I lived around that whole scene. This is what I often say,

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right is I've seen too much. I've seen like the Wizard of Oz.

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I've seen too much behind the curtain, and I know a little too

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much sometimes. So I don't follow a lot of like, trends. I

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don't follow a lot of people be like, Oh, I love this one's

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books. I'm like, yeah, not for me. Like, I just can't get on

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board with that person, right? And even in my personal life,

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there have been periods of times when, you know, it's just human

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nature. We want to believe that people are being honest and

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transparent and they are who they say they are, you know. We

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want to believe that people aren't, I don't know, totally

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full of shit and running a racket, but there's so many

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people running a racket out there, and a lot of people have

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blind spots, myself included, you know. But I ask my friends,

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I ask my sweetie and my friends, like, Hey, you gotta, you gotta

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make sure that you check me, you know. Like, if I start to get a

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little weird, or if I start to get whatever, like, you gotta

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let me know if I have a blind spot. It's a blind spot for a

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reason, because I can't see it, and whether that's because I

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don't want to see it, or my conditioning, my trauma, my

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upbringing, my whatever, my filter. But you need people

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around you who are going to say like, Hey, you might want to

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check that out, that belief, that behavior, that whatever.

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And there have been times in my life where I really, like, you

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know, you know, bought coaching programs or did whatever

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thinking that I needed this person's wisdom, and then I got

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into these programs, and I was like, Oh my God, get me out of

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this burning building fast, because it doesn't take me too

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long to recognize something is not right here. Something is off

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here. This person is really good at selling an image or selling

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an idea of them, of how they want you to perceive them, but

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there is so much cognitive dissonance, you know what I

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mean? And look, I'm not saying I am perfect. I'm sure that there

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have been, you know, times in my life and and I look back

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personally, but this isn't about this isn't about you know me,

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but I'm not saying that I'm off the hook and that I've never

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been clumsy or I've never done those things. I've had humbling

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moments in my own life where I had to have like, you know, that

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come to Jesus moment with myself and be like, Oh, was that really

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the best thing to do or say or to behave or whatever? But I try

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to check myself right. And it's not like, like I said, I try to

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be the alternative, right? So much, so much of you know, so

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much of what I try to pour into the world is to be helpful.

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Doesn't mean I don't screw up sometimes, but I really am

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trying to be and to live from the most loving place that I

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can. I don't always get it right. I am clumsy. I do

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trespass, but for me, it's like I especially at 57 I am learning

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to just trust my own wisdom and my own counsel, and that of a

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few select people who I really trust, to give it to me

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straight, to be honest with me, to tell me things from you know,

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the great thing about my sweetie is his brain works slightly

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different than mine. His experience is slightly different

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than mine. So I can always just say to him, like, am I looking

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at this wrong? Like, what are you seeing? What are you hearing

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when you read this? What do you think? And my sweetie has a

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excellent and excellent bullshit detector, and he will often red

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flag things way before I do. Because I just am like, a little

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bit like, oh, like, I want to see the goodness in other

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people. I want to believe. And even when I see people fuck up,

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you know, I'm like, I understand the potential, that divine spark

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in them. I understand and can see who they can be, how they

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can be, but at some point we have to stop making excuses for

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people's potential, right? You can't just keep hanging on

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because of somebody's potential. I'm not saying you cast them out

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of your hat. Sometimes you got to cast them out of your life.

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Though there are relationships and people, and, you know,

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online people too, we have to say, oh, yeah, this is not good.

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I don't want to be associated with this. I don't want to do

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business with this person. I'm not promoting it. I'm not

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sharing it. And you go when you unfollow, and if you had done

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any harm in your association with that person, you got to

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make amends and apologize.

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So that's it. That's all I got to say, is more and more and

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more is being revealed, and this is the time to stay shop. This

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is the time to like, like I said, read some shit, do some

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homework. And the thing is, is that everything online is

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designed to sell you, whether it's an idea. Idea or a brand or

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a product or a supplement or whatever it is when people are

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Hawking their services, whatever it is, right, they're designed

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to look a particular way so that you will buy. And whether that

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means physically, with cash, with your hard earned money,

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whether it means you are buying what they're quote, unquote

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selling, meaning their image, this idea of who and how. Oh,

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they're so spiritual. They're so whatever, right? People are

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almost always talking their way as and we have to really be

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paying close attention, not only to what they're saying and doing

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and seeing if they match. If there's, you know, the I always

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say the assignment is alignment, and if there's a misalignment

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between what's coming out of their mouth and what they're

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doing, notice that. Check that. Don't push it away. Don't put it

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under the rug, because, like, we see it silence in families,

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like, if you grew up in a family where you weren't allowed to be

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honest about feelings or tell the truth or or point out

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hypocrisy. You know, a lot of children like that end up

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becoming adults who don't want to stir the pot or cause waves

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or cause trouble, or, you know, everybody wants to just keep the

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peace. Well, sometimes we can't keep the peace. Sometimes we

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have to say, Hey, that's not right. Hey, I'm going to stand

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up and say something about that. You know what I mean. So right

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now, it's like, remember, good teachers protect their pupils

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from their own influence. A teacher is never a giver a

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truth. We're simply a guide. We are pointing to the truths that

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each student must find for himself, and that's it. You

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gotta find out for yourself. Sometimes you might get burned.

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Sometimes it might be staring you in the face, and you just

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refuse to see it. You know, I talk about this in my memoir.

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There were times in my life when I didn't want the truth, the

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truth, because it would be too painful to accept the truth of

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those people, those situations, and I had to learn the hard way,

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and I'm still learning at 57 but this is, again, just a little

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PSA, a little public service announcement from my heart to

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yours. Just like, again, pay attention not only to what's

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going on out there, pay close attention to what happens inside

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of you when you come across another person's content,

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another person's programs, another person's, you know,

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business, whatever they're selling, whatever they're

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offering, look religious. They're like, pay attention

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right to what the culty, the culty preachy, like everything,

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even, even like, you know, authors who supposedly are

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selling, like, a little, you know, a little book, and then

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all of a sudden they get a lot of influence, they get a lot of

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attention, and shit gets weird. People get weird when they are

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given power. People get weird when they get a lot of money,

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sometimes, not saying, all people, a lot of people, they

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get weird when they get a little bit of fame, a little bit of

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fortune, a little bit of attention, a little bit of

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whatever they think they have power and influence, and we see

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it all over the place, but you, my dear listener. You are a

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smarty pants. You are a little more mindful. You are a little

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more aware and awake, so make sure you do your due diligence.

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Be discerning, right? Be be just be aware. Pay attention, be

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mindful and trust yourself. And when you know that somebody is

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like doing some harm, may you have, may you have the courage

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to speak up, may you have the courage to speak up. At the very

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least, I'm not saying you have to go online and call people out

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and do a whole thing. But like, if you were promoting that

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person, you got to maybe acknowledge it with some other

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people and let people know, like, Oh, I just learned some

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stuff. And that's the other thing you guys, is we have to be

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willing to say I was wrong about that. You might have voted for

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somebody who is not who is not right, or in this case, like

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with Trump, I would say he's always been telling us who he

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is. He's always been telling us who he is and what he's gonna

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do. So that shouldn't be that big of a surprise, but for some

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people, it's still gonna be a surprise, like, Oh, I didn't

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know that. That's what that person was really gonna do. You

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know, we have to be willing to admit when we've made a mistake.

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All of us, me too, right? All of us, we have to be willing to

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say, Oh, I got that one wrong. We got to pay attention and

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just, you know, don't drink the Kool Aid, everybody. All right,

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I love you guys, wherever you go out into the world today, may

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you and your presence and your energy and your love be a

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blessing wherever you go. Leave the people, the place, the

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animals, the the planet man, if we can, better than how we found

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it. Bye, bye.