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In this episode, Chuck Anderson and his guest, an expert in creating engaging visual presentations, discuss the art of standing out in virtual meetings, the importance of personal branding, and collaborating for success. They share creative approaches and tools for enhancing audience engagement and ensuring a memorable virtual presence.
Lion Fludd, a former professional magician turned virtual presentation expert, helps individuals and businesses create highly engaging visual presentations to combat "Zoom fatigue" and captivate audiences in virtual settings.
This episode is highly visual and can be fully enjoyed on the Collaborators Unite website or YouTube channel.
Key Points:
- Personal Branding and Collaboration (04:32)
Lion emphasizes the importance of personal branding and collaborating with graphic designers for video presentations.
- Engaging Visual Presentations and Tools (11:15)
The hosts discuss the use of OBS and Ecamm for visual presentations, offering creative ways to keep audiences engaged.
- Virtual Engagement Techniques (17:40)
Lion shares techniques to encourage audience participation and address challenges in virtual meetings.
- Stand Out in Virtual Presentations (25:03)
The discussion focuses on creating a memorable virtual presence and the impact of unique visual backgrounds.
- Lessons in Business and Persistence (33:51)
Lion recommends the book "The 5 Love Languages" by Gary Chapman and emphasizes the importance of taking action and persistence in achieving business goals.
Guest's Must-read Book Recommendation: Lion Fludd recommends "The 5 Love Languages" by Gary Chapman for valuable insights into personal and business relationships.
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Chuck Anderson,
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Hello, everybody, and welcome back to the show. This is the,
Speaker:creative collaboration show from Collaborators Unite with Chuck
Speaker:Anderson. And, today, I have another
Speaker:amazing guest for you, especially if you are someone
Speaker:who Relies on any type of visual
Speaker:presentation. So if you do a lot of Zooms or
Speaker:webinars or events or anything visual,
Speaker:you're gonna really wanna lean into this episode today. In fact,
Speaker:this comes with a warning, And that is if you are listening to this
Speaker:on a podcast, I want you to let you know that today's
Speaker:episode is highly, highly visual. Anderson
Speaker:by all means, listen to the episode, but go back and check it
Speaker:out on our website and on
Speaker:YouTube, And you'll see the full video presentation
Speaker:there as well. So today, I have,
Speaker:with me Lian Flood, who is an expert at
Speaker:creating highly visual and highly
Speaker:engaging visual presentations, that is gonna help you
Speaker:to get more engagement and, keep those eyeballs
Speaker:on the screen and on you and your message. So First of
Speaker:all, Lian, welcome to the show. I'm so glad you're here.
Speaker:Hey. Thank you for having me here. First off, I appreciate that,
Speaker:and it just means so much me to be here with you and your audience,
Speaker:so thank you very much. Oh, fantastic. Well, I know this is gonna be
Speaker:time well spent, you know, especially for anyone who does A lot of
Speaker:visual presentations. You and I were chatting just before the episode
Speaker:there about, backgrounds. I'm sure we'll talk about that a little
Speaker:bit, And, really love yours. It took
Speaker:me a long time to build this. This is real. This is IKEA
Speaker:furniture, But, you know, virtual backgrounds and
Speaker:and all of that, there's there's so many different things. And and, of course, yours
Speaker:is not virtual, And so we can we can tell people about that as
Speaker:well. But first of all, welcome. And I think a good place to start is,
Speaker:you know, to you know, I did the light introduction. Maybe, you can go a
Speaker:little further and tell everybody about yourself. And why is it
Speaker:that you, do what you do, and how did you come to start
Speaker:doing this? Yeah. Thank you for that. And that's why I guess
Speaker:a a good place to start with that is to tell people
Speaker:that what I do in essence is I help
Speaker:people create engaging and professional presentations.
Speaker:And you can think of me almost like an video
Speaker:Interior designer. Because, you know,
Speaker:when the virtual world came upon us,
Speaker:Everyone was like, I don't know what to do. I I don't know where to
Speaker:put my hands at. Do I, you know, where do I look at? So I
Speaker:was like, There's a need for people to learn that. And
Speaker:one day, my wife said to me because I would get tons of questions. She's
Speaker:like, you know what? That's a viable business. People asking you
Speaker:all the time, how does yours look that way? How did you get it?
Speaker:She's like, Turn that into something. I was like, voila. I'm
Speaker:glad I thought of that, honey. Of
Speaker:course. That was the beginning of everything from that point.
Speaker:Yeah. And, you know, we we found ourselves In a
Speaker:much more virtual world, faster
Speaker:than we ever thought we would. I mean, I think we were we were
Speaker:heading towards more and more virtual all the time, but, you
Speaker:know, with the with the lockdowns and everything and everyone staying at home,
Speaker:it really accelerated all of that. And And
Speaker:while some in person stuff has come back,
Speaker:this whole you know, we we're not going back to the way we were,
Speaker:visual presentations and doing, doing visual
Speaker:presentations, a lot of Zooms, is here
Speaker:to stay, and and it's it's something I do multiple times a
Speaker:week. So so it's it it I can see that that's very
Speaker:relevant. And I will say I attend a lot of webinars as
Speaker:well, and they don't always have their stuff
Speaker:together. Right? Like, Backgrounds are one
Speaker:thing. They are another. I mean so,
Speaker:so, you know, so you it sounds like you came up with this for
Speaker:yourself, first of all. And then Yeah. A very,
Speaker:very wise recommendation from your wife
Speaker:to to go
Speaker:that caused you to come up with what you're doing right now.
Speaker:So I think for me in the whole Constructive, when
Speaker:I found out, like, the virtual world was coming, I've always been a fun,
Speaker:just enthusiastic person. Like, even in Networking events in person or
Speaker:live. I would love to just do something that would catch
Speaker:whomever I was speaking with, attention instead of
Speaker:just the maybe the old, here's my business card, all kind of things. So
Speaker:for a quick example, a little Back story before this is
Speaker:I'm actually, semi retired, but I'm actually a professional
Speaker:magician. Right? I used to perform In Las Vegas, in the
Speaker:casinos and big like that. And one of the things I would do
Speaker:in live, Events, networking
Speaker:events, is I would pull my business card out, and I had a magic trick
Speaker:in which the business card would light on fire,
Speaker:Literally, actual flames. And then
Speaker:I would blow it out and give it to the person. So it was memorable.
Speaker:Even if they didn't know what I did, they remembered, and they would go
Speaker:tell someone a story. They met some guy who had a business card on fire.
Speaker:He pulled it out of his jacket pocket, Anderson I was
Speaker:memorable. So I always wanted to still keep that. Go
Speaker:into the virtual world, there wasn't really a way to do it like that. Right?
Speaker:Then I could do it on screen, but it wasn't. So I still
Speaker:wanted to have fun and be in a virtual event.
Speaker:And so I said, let me find a way that I could bring maybe characters
Speaker:on screen or have something really fun that comes on screen, and
Speaker:I wanted to do that. And I So I developed this mindset of saying
Speaker:these meetings are gonna be no sleeping
Speaker:zones. Right? This meeting is a no boring sleeping zones. Bring something
Speaker:up on screen like that. And that's how it kind of went into that. I
Speaker:personally did not wanna be in a meeting In which
Speaker:I would be bored.
Speaker:I Anderson you still needed to talk and tell your story and present
Speaker:whatever you wanted, but It they even came up with a word for it. I
Speaker:think they started calling it, Zoom fatigue. Yeah. These the
Speaker:people got zoomed out. So that's where it started at for me. I
Speaker:still wanted to be memorable even
Speaker:in virtual meetings. Yeah.
Speaker:And, you know, I've been through some Zoom meetings that were
Speaker:it's like, oh, man. Not enough Coffee in the world to keep me awake
Speaker:through this thing. And, the thing is and, you know,
Speaker:I have spent some time in
Speaker:Video production and and and also slide
Speaker:production and and Yeah. You know, with when it comes to presentations.
Speaker:And, if there is
Speaker:not something that moves on the screen,
Speaker:you know, sometimes every few seconds That Yeah. Our
Speaker:attention starts to divert elsewhere. I have 3 screens on
Speaker:my computer. I could easily look over there or down there or over
Speaker:there. Yeah. If there's something on your screen that's moving, it's gonna help me
Speaker:to keep my attention on it.
Speaker:Yeah. Absolutely. And real quick on that, if And
Speaker:I've developed 1 I won't say I developed, but I I I I teach that
Speaker:in my course. Right? So for all of the listeners who are listening to this
Speaker:talk right now, make sure you go and watch The video as he stated before
Speaker:because a demonstration I'm just about to show you is, if you
Speaker:notice, my screen is in constant motion. I
Speaker:have a background, but it's subtle. It's not overt
Speaker:where it's gonna make you distracted, but it's done
Speaker:on purpose because It's just like in the movies.
Speaker:Every 7 seconds, they're cutting to a new scene or
Speaker:jump cut or something to keep your brain going. So when I'm in
Speaker:a meeting, People will see the motion of my
Speaker:screen, but it's not done in a distracting kind of way. So I
Speaker:agree with you totally. Mhmm. Yeah. I love that. The
Speaker:the background, it's it's so subtle. It's not distracting.
Speaker:But just with the with the movement of the colors,
Speaker:it does focus My attention. And I think what I
Speaker:find myself thinking as well is, you know, is is something
Speaker:else gonna change on the screen? I better keep watching.
Speaker:Right? Anderson That's a good idea. You just
Speaker:gave me idea. I might change the whole background every once in a
Speaker:while. I'm glad I thought of it.
Speaker:Well, there you go. Well, I mean, the the movement does really help
Speaker:with that that focus as well, and it's like Yeah. It
Speaker:gives you a reason to keep looking forward, right,
Speaker:versus Yeah. You know, over here. And so,
Speaker:so I love that. So you created this for yourself, and, what kind
Speaker:of presentations were you doing at the time? What what were you?
Speaker:Yeah. So when I first started doing this, I was actually doing
Speaker:virtual magic. And because it was still I was still performing at
Speaker:that Time when, you know, everyone had to go to the virtual world. And so
Speaker:I need to come up with different ways of presenting the magic
Speaker:on screen So the people would still feel,
Speaker:the connection. Because magic is all about connection. You're in person.
Speaker:Now I'm on the screen doing it, and you'd lose that connection. So I needed
Speaker:to develop a way to do that. And I was, like, okay. Well, let me
Speaker:do some things on screen that will Keep the people's attention. And
Speaker:I remember there was a moment when I looked back and it was done.
Speaker:I don't wanna date myself here, but I think it was, like, In the early
Speaker:eighties when Copperfield, David Copperfield did something back
Speaker:then on TV, and he had a method where people would be at
Speaker:home, Anderson they would look at the screen and see a certain amount
Speaker:of playing cards, and he would say, think of something, and then the cards
Speaker:would disappear. And eventually, your card was the last card that was on
Speaker:screen. And I was, like, that's it. Because
Speaker:at that moment, he was doing magic with them in homes for
Speaker:millions of people, but They still felt like the trick was
Speaker:directly for them, and I said, let me incorporate something like
Speaker:that. And that's That kinda pushed me down that road there.
Speaker:Oh, that is really cool because yeah. Yeah. Because that's the thing. I mean,
Speaker:it's so interactive. I don't even think that
Speaker:I've, that I've, witnessed magic
Speaker:virtually before, and and it is it is something that's That's very
Speaker:real. So you had to solve a problem Yeah. In your business. Like, how
Speaker:how do I still have this, You know,
Speaker:communicating this visually and still have the same outcome.
Speaker:And, and and so then you so then you create so then so you
Speaker:have this problem. So So what what were the next steps? So how did you,
Speaker:what did you do then to be able to come up with what you're doing
Speaker:now? Show in that course there, I'm
Speaker:I think I'm a serial entrepreneur. Right? I I don't if that term
Speaker:still exists, I'm a serial entrepreneur, And I also have my
Speaker:ADHD brain, whereas I'm on 1 subject
Speaker:Anderson I'm on to the next. Right? So It just kept progressing, and I was,
Speaker:like, okay, well, what can I do with this next? So I started saying, well,
Speaker:maybe I could because I would get questions from people's Afterwards, I say, oh,
Speaker:my son my daughter's interested in magic. Where can they
Speaker:learn it? I was like, oh, you could do this book. And I started saying,
Speaker:Well, people keep asking me where can I learn it? I'm telling them to go
Speaker:somewhere else to learn it. Why don't I tell them to come to me to
Speaker:learn it? Yeah. Well, we're not in the same city. I could just
Speaker:maybe develop 30, 40 minutes of a video
Speaker:to teach them basic tricks. And again, it was like
Speaker:Light bulb, right? Light bulb went off. I said, yeah, just
Speaker:make a mini course Anderson. And
Speaker:then that's where that started, and that's kind of
Speaker:how I started that, teaching other people magic virtually.
Speaker:Some live, but then some in the course as well. Yeah.
Speaker:That's that's awesome. So who do you
Speaker:who do you notice that is coming into your world
Speaker:and and and taking your program. What are some of the things you're hearing
Speaker:from them in terms of the the struggle
Speaker:or, you know, what the what they Either what they're trying to
Speaker:overcome or what they're trying to achieve. That's
Speaker:there that's the question. Right? Who is it? And I
Speaker:think I've narrowed it down
Speaker:to people who want to get on screen,
Speaker:who want to do something virtual first. They They just don't
Speaker:know where to start or how to do it. Then
Speaker:second, I have people who have already Started the
Speaker:process. They've done webinars. They've done coaching sessions, but
Speaker:they feel stuck because they don't get the engagement
Speaker:or People may be leaving from their course or
Speaker:their membership because it's so just cut and
Speaker:dry. And so that those are the 2 main,
Speaker:avatars as we call it are people who we focus on. Someone who
Speaker:just says, you know what? I don't know where to start. I I wanna make
Speaker:content. I wanna Coach, I wanna get my business going. I'm a life
Speaker:coach, but I just don't know how to communicate online.
Speaker:Okay. Great. That's what we can help you on that. Or someone who's A coach
Speaker:and said, hey. I do webinars or I do
Speaker:presentations, but people just say it's boring, or they don't respond if I
Speaker:ask them questions or something. We can help you with that.
Speaker:Yeah. I love that. And, you know, that is something that
Speaker:We encounter all the time, in our work. I mean,
Speaker:all of our clients run events of some sort, Whether it be
Speaker:webinars or workshops or master classes or summits or
Speaker:challenges or whatever, and It's one
Speaker:thing to get people registered. It's another thing to get people to
Speaker:show up, and it's even another thing to get them
Speaker:to To stay engaged while they're there.
Speaker:And Show, and so that that is a
Speaker:huge issue because if we can't keep them engaged I always tell The people in
Speaker:my program is like, look. You know, they you can give great
Speaker:content, but tomorrow, they're gonna forget most of that
Speaker:content. But they're gonna remember you, and they're gonna remember
Speaker:how you made them feel. And so how memorable
Speaker:can you be? Is is that kind of what you're
Speaker:you're going for with your clients as well?
Speaker:Absolutely. Because, When I kinda started going
Speaker:into this road, I was like, okay. Well, how do I find my clients? Where
Speaker:do I find and I I always remembered, just go to the places where they're
Speaker:at. Right. And most of my clients are people who I'm, you know,
Speaker:working with, they're in other networking meetings, other
Speaker:virtual meetings. And so I would simply go there,
Speaker:and I I would kind of sit back in the corner because I didn't
Speaker:wanna be just upfront with everything and wait till my introduction
Speaker:came. But I noticed every meeting I would go in,
Speaker:I would always get someone to ask me, hey, I
Speaker:saw your, screen. How did you do that?
Speaker:Anderson, I was marketing, and that's how I started to get them. Because
Speaker:if you are saying that's a really nice screen or
Speaker:background or something, Then that means that
Speaker:whomever you're marketing to is gonna say it to you. So
Speaker:even if they didn't remember my name, They remember there was someone in
Speaker:that meeting who had a different standout
Speaker:virtual background or virtual presence, as in essence,
Speaker:than Other 60 people, other 100 people in that
Speaker:meeting. So, yes, I want them to stand
Speaker:apart from their competitors. Mhmm. Well and
Speaker:that reminds me of how you and I met because we were at a networking
Speaker:meeting. We ended up in a breakout room together. And, You know,
Speaker:most people who are at these meetings, they've got whatever background
Speaker:they have. Sometimes it's their laundry or, you know,
Speaker:some other you know, their bed. Yeah. And, you know, this
Speaker:this this symmetrical thing took a while to do. This
Speaker:is all real furniture, not a virtual background, but I
Speaker:remember when we met, like, instantly before you
Speaker:even spoke, I'm like, oh, this guy's different. Right. This guy's got
Speaker:something different going on because you don't see this every day. You
Speaker:don't it stands apart from everyone else who's there.
Speaker:Yeah. And and that's kind of the thing that you want to
Speaker:make happen, especially if you're gonna try to be
Speaker:presenting to listen, let's not even just say clients. Let's just say you're doing a
Speaker:webinar. Right? One of the things that I would show people is maybe
Speaker:at the beginning of the meeting, you wanna do something where you tell
Speaker:Someone to turn on their cameras. Right? That's one of the things that's
Speaker:big. Right? Where I have a setup example,
Speaker:I have this come on my screen, and it just it
Speaker:it it the lighting, the the where it just flash for a
Speaker:second. Hey. Your camera's off. Make sure you turn it on. It pops to their
Speaker:eye, and that's a Zoom thing that everyone's familiar with. And then when
Speaker:they see that, they go, oh, I better turn my camera on. Right? So
Speaker:it's just something so I don't have to say it. I can have
Speaker:it set up automatically Show it comes on every 10 seconds, For
Speaker:an example, until I get ready to come on camera, and then when
Speaker:I come on, I go, I know y'all saw that little thing flashing that
Speaker:said turn your cameras on. I'm a call you out. Jeff, I see your
Speaker:camera's off or but it's now fun, and it it
Speaker:gives me kind of credences to kinda jump on them without
Speaker:automatically coming on camera and sounding Google to, y'all better turn your
Speaker:cameras on. Exactly. And,
Speaker:well, and we see that in meetings all the time, and and some
Speaker:people are a little grumpy about it. You gotta be fun. Right? It's like, You
Speaker:know, I I was on a meeting not too long ago. It's like, look. If
Speaker:you don't turn your camera on, we're gonna ask you to leave this meeting.
Speaker:And, know, that's one way to handle it. I like your way of handling it.
Speaker:It's way more fun. Yeah. Yeah. And they they receive it
Speaker:better because they know they're supposed to have it on, but they also see that,
Speaker:oh, he he or she okay. I like their personality
Speaker:because, they they they see it in fun. Right? So yeah.
Speaker:Well, after all, I mean, these Zoom meetings are all about engagement. And,
Speaker:you know, I I just did a webinar earlier today that had 50
Speaker:people on it, and it's You know, it is how do you
Speaker:engage with 50 people virtually?
Speaker:You know, with smaller groups, we can bring them up on,
Speaker:and have them share. We can have them talk. But when you get into larger
Speaker:rooms, there isn't time in the agenda for that. It would take
Speaker:the full 90 minutes Just have everyone talk. And
Speaker:and and some don't know when to stop, talking as
Speaker:well. And so so then,
Speaker:having other creative ways to engage with
Speaker:them when you can't bring them on to the mic and have
Speaker:everyone talking. Yeah. Absolutely. And that's
Speaker:see, this is why I love doing these kind of things. Right? Because you just
Speaker:said something that sparked another kind of
Speaker:My my ADHD brain to go. Right? So you just
Speaker:said they take forever, and they may take a little bit more time. Right? So
Speaker:I have a thing where I teach my students and so forth whereas someone will
Speaker:come up on a on a screen or something, and I would tell them right
Speaker:up front, alright. Hey. So this is your time. So now I put the time,
Speaker:so the podcast listeners, make sure you go and see this, because right now there's
Speaker:a countdown timer that came on a screen, But also
Speaker:along with a circular kind of rapid fire kind
Speaker:of question. So they know this is the amount of time you've got to
Speaker:speak. And I'll be like, oh, your time's going out. You better hurry up. Better
Speaker:hurry up. And then at the end, it flashes red Show
Speaker:they know that, oh, danger zone. And I'm just like, hurry up. So
Speaker:again, it's fun, but I don't have to directly, you
Speaker:know, overly, force them to,
Speaker:So say, okay, your time's coming up. Because I'll see people hold up
Speaker:their cell phone. Mhmm. Yeah. That works. But
Speaker:If it's on screen, everyone gets to see it, and you made it more fun.
Speaker:So yeah. Exactly. Yeah. And the you know,
Speaker:there There's probably a long list of these kinds of challenges that
Speaker:happen in Zoom meetings that we could, that we could,
Speaker:list off. One of the questions
Speaker:I know people will have because I've, you know, I've heard it
Speaker:before from them is, like, Obviously, the visual
Speaker:representation that you have on your screen is really, really good.
Speaker:How much time did you put into that? Like, how Hard is it
Speaker:for someone to learn how to do this? Is it, you know, is
Speaker:it something that they're going to really have to increase their tech skills to
Speaker:a level that they're They're they're not accustomed to, or is this
Speaker:achievable for them reasonably well? I love
Speaker:I let me tell you, I would Chuck I was salivating for that question. I
Speaker:was it was like I was Pavlov's dog. I was waiting for it
Speaker:because I was like, yes. Come on. Come on. Come on. No. I loved it
Speaker:because The system in the way that I teach it,
Speaker:it's I call it my easy a b c 1, 2, 3. I've got
Speaker:several testimonials, and, actually, we've got a One recently from a
Speaker:gentleman who's 75 years old, and he even came into our group and
Speaker:he said, I've done several of these. I wanted to do live, and I couldn't
Speaker:understand it. But The system I use, which is called Ecamm, by the way, I
Speaker:am an affiliate of it. So if anyone is interested in learning it, I
Speaker:do get something from Ecamm. So come to me for it, And I will
Speaker:give you, some good tips on it. But it's so
Speaker:easy that he, at 75 years old, was like,
Speaker:wow. And he wrote this out for us, and he's like, I can do
Speaker:this because if it's not easy, you don't wanna do
Speaker:it. If it's Too complicated or cumbersome, you're
Speaker:gonna be pressing wrong buttons or doing something while you're trying to focus
Speaker:on your presentation, which could distract you from doing some other thing.
Speaker:So the answer is it's absolutely simple
Speaker:and easy. Matter of fact, a new thing that we just
Speaker:started doing for people is, remote production. So I had
Speaker:a lady who said, I just wanna talk. I don't wanna do any slides. I
Speaker:don't wanna do anything. I said, I got you. All you gotta do is come
Speaker:on screen, speak your presentation, I'll do the slides, I'll do all of the
Speaker:fancy stuff, and that was it. She was like, thank you.
Speaker:So Easy peasy. So now you're a
Speaker:producer as well. Do you actually do that for for clients? You where
Speaker:you'll go and you'll produce on the back end while they're Doing their speaking.
Speaker:Yeah. We just that's what I've done about 10 of those
Speaker:now. So it's something that I
Speaker:kept thinking about, and I never did. And then people just kept asking me. I
Speaker:said, why don't I just get into it? Because I didn't wanna put more on
Speaker:my plate. But I was like, okay, so I can kinda just ease into that.
Speaker:So, yes, I do that now as well because some people don't want
Speaker:to. They they don't want to do all of the Anderson and out of
Speaker:things that's needed. They just wanna talk, and they just wanna present. I
Speaker:was like, okay. Cool. Let's help them out as well. Yeah. I love
Speaker:that. And I think that's one of the things that that
Speaker:people fear is, am I gonna have to, How hard is
Speaker:this gonna have be to learn, and can I really do this? And
Speaker:and so it sounds like you have a way of showing them to do it
Speaker:that's Really, really simple. And if they really don't wanna
Speaker:do it, you're available to you know, there's a way that they
Speaker:can have you Help them with it on the back end.
Speaker:Yeah. Absolutely. I tell people for me, I'm absolutely
Speaker:simply amazing at what I do, and I don't say that,
Speaker:you Show, to bolster, oh, there it is right there. So There we go. So
Speaker:but it is true because I look at it as myself. My
Speaker:name is my brand. Mhmm. It's who I
Speaker:am. I need that brand to be the top of the line, top notch.
Speaker:And if I am not, people are gonna go tell 4 other people,
Speaker:it wasn't what it was supposed to be. Right? So I want to
Speaker:ensure that your name is your brand, and you look good. You look good. I
Speaker:look good. The whole story goes together. Yeah. That's
Speaker:amazing. You know, at the top of the
Speaker:episode, I mentioned the, you know, the theme of our show is is
Speaker:collaboration and creative collaboration. And one of the reasons why
Speaker:I invited you to the show is I see you
Speaker:as Someone who would be really great to collaborate with,
Speaker:especially for anyone who does a lot of
Speaker:Zooms, a lot of visual presentations, and and things like that.
Speaker:And so so so so 2 parts to this question.
Speaker:Right? 1 is, You know, why would
Speaker:somebody collaborate with you versus trying to do this on your
Speaker:own? I think it's probably a very obvious answer, but
Speaker:I'll let you answer it. And then also, you know, how
Speaker:how collaborations played a role in in in
Speaker:in your business, and And what do you look for for for
Speaker:people that you collaborate with or partner with? Yeah.
Speaker:Absolutely. So very first question, like you said, is a simple one to
Speaker:one because as you're collaborating, you're going to learn as
Speaker:well. So then you're starting to understand the system.
Speaker:Because When we can figure out each other's
Speaker:weaknesses and strengths, then we can amplify those. Right? So for an
Speaker:example, I do, and going into the second question a little bit as
Speaker:well, As I collaborate with a lot of,
Speaker:designer, web designers or web graphic designers,
Speaker:because A lot of the things that people see come up on my screen,
Speaker:I that's not my strength. I don't know how to directly create a logo
Speaker:For your brand, I have associates who do, then
Speaker:I can send them to you. Hey, Chuck. You know what? I've got an associate
Speaker:who does that Graphic designer, go and speak with him or her.
Speaker:They can help you and create that and vice versa. So then now they're
Speaker:telling someone who does graphic designs, they look at that.
Speaker:You say, okay. Now I wanna do a video. Hey. Go see
Speaker:Lion. He does videos. So collaboration helps so
Speaker:many ways. Do not look at it as, I wanna keep all
Speaker:of the, the funds or the everything to
Speaker:myself. No, because your name gets put out there more.
Speaker:People see it more. Someone may see
Speaker:a graphic design on my show and they say, Oh, I loved how
Speaker:those, things just came up. For an example, when you see this right here come
Speaker:up on the screen, I didn't create that. I just put it on the
Speaker:screen, but I can tell you who did it
Speaker:for me, and it worked so well. So I would highly
Speaker:suggest anyone to learn to Collaboration, And especially if you're clever with
Speaker:me, we're gonna work together, and we're gonna help each other Show. Because when
Speaker:we grow, the more we know, all that good stuff is like that.
Speaker:Yeah. Amazing. And we definitely look forward to
Speaker:doing more with you as well because, again, like, a 100% of our
Speaker:clients do presentations, And they do Zooms. They do
Speaker:webinars. They do events, all all of that.
Speaker:And having a highly engaged audience is
Speaker:super, Super important with that. Yes. So,
Speaker:look, we've covered a lot of ground today, and I love the I love the
Speaker:demonstration. Look. You know, anyone listening in right now Who
Speaker:is listening in on a podcast? You just have to
Speaker:go to the website or go to my YouTube channel. Yeah. The
Speaker:link is right there, in the show notes. You've got you gotta go
Speaker:back and you gotta watch the video of this because, the I I didn't
Speaker:even know how to describe, like, Some of the visual things that have popped up
Speaker:there we go. Another one that has popped up on the screen literally,
Speaker:and, and so you just gotta go and check this out. And
Speaker:it's what I will also say,
Speaker:Lan, is what it it causes an emotion. Like, there's an
Speaker:instant smile. There's an instant, you know,
Speaker:feeling that comes just from showing simple something simple
Speaker:like that on the screen. Yes. But how Effective is
Speaker:that? There we go. See? That's memorable. Right?
Speaker:It's memorable, and Yeah. It keeps people engaged. And I and I And
Speaker:it's something that I endeavor to do more, in my
Speaker:presentations. And so, as
Speaker:a non Mac User. As a Windows user, I I have
Speaker:to find other solutions because, Ecamm is is not
Speaker:available to me, but, you know, there's there's a way to do it. There is
Speaker:a way to do it. Yeah. And and I was gonna tell you really
Speaker:quick with that is, that's another, oh, something I put on
Speaker:my plate. So, yes, There is a system, and I I have no worries and
Speaker:here goes that collaboration thing. Right? I I've learned from my coach, because I I
Speaker:hired a coach who taught me, hey, give away more than you take. There is
Speaker:a system that does probably 90% of what you see on my screen
Speaker:for anyone who and and it does work for PC. It's
Speaker:called OBS, Oscar Bravo Sierra. It's
Speaker:free. Right? The only differences or the major differences
Speaker:is a higher learning curve. Mhmm. Whereas, Ecamm, for an
Speaker:example, it has cut down my workload, for example, whereas it took me 6
Speaker:hours to edit something. Now it may take me an hour and a half, For
Speaker:an example, where OBS is still gonna take you 6 to 8
Speaker:hours to do it. Not literally, but just showing a big difference so that So
Speaker:you can still do it, Chuck. You can get it done. Awesome. Well, I look
Speaker:forward to getting that done. Now along those lines, I
Speaker:mean, one of the next Questions people have is like, okay. What do I need?
Speaker:What do I, what are what are my next steps? And I know you
Speaker:have a free gift that that We'll help people along those lines. You wanna
Speaker:tell everyone a little bit a bit more about that, and we'll make sure that
Speaker:the links to that are beneath the video and in the podcast show
Speaker:notes. Yeah, absolutely. I I my, like, free gift
Speaker:is, a list of recommended items for you to start with.
Speaker:Right? Microphones, Headphones, and they range from a
Speaker:variable, like, financial status of maybe $20 up
Speaker:to the highest 3, $400 for example. Right? Because I don't
Speaker:suggest you directly start off with some of the most expensive
Speaker:things if you're not, you know, really into it. Right? But grab that
Speaker:free gift because it's gonna give you an idea and at least take you down
Speaker:a rabbit hole. Maybe you see 1 microphone that's recommended, and then you start
Speaker:looking and searching Or at the microphones. Right? So
Speaker:I highly recommend, if nothing else, get that free gift for
Speaker:the recommendations Starting your path because you might say to yourself,
Speaker:I need a new microphone. I just don't know which one to get because there's
Speaker:so many out there. You gotta find the right one that works for you.
Speaker:Well, if you wanna get access to that equipment list, Chuck out the
Speaker:link Just beneath this video, and if you're on podcast still and
Speaker:you haven't gone Chuck out the video, the the links to all of that is
Speaker:right there, in the show notes. Go go check that out.
Speaker:And, of course, we have your, your all your your your links
Speaker:and everything are all all there as well, Lyon. So, well,
Speaker:look, before we bring this episode to a close, I just gotta ask you. This
Speaker:is a this is a question that I ask all of my guests.
Speaker:I And I'm was surprised at the answer because I
Speaker:thought that we would hear the same answer
Speaker:over and over and over again, and it turned out It's
Speaker:different for everybody, and that is Yeah. You Show, and so much about,
Speaker:you know, growing our business is about learning, and I learn a lot from books.
Speaker:I've got a Just a few of them back here. If
Speaker:you were to recommend just 1 must
Speaker:read book That has been either
Speaker:really inspirational for you or
Speaker:helpful for you, and you say, you know what? You gotta go and you gotta
Speaker:go and read this book next. Is there one that you would recommend?
Speaker:No. I would. And it's so crazy because it has nothing to
Speaker:do Directly with business. Although
Speaker:it, to me, helped out my business tremendously, and it
Speaker:was the 5 love languages. And the
Speaker:reason why I say that is because especially during a time frame of
Speaker:when everything went virtual and the world were going crazy upside down, we were
Speaker:stuck in a together with our spouses and partners or whomever,
Speaker:we were starting to drive each other crazy, and my wife and I delved into
Speaker:that book. And at that moment is I saw everything Flip for us
Speaker:because we became so much more supportive in each
Speaker:other's endeavors. Hey, go for it. I remember there was times where I would put
Speaker:our webinar or Try something and 2 people would show up, you
Speaker:Show? And then I was, like, no, this isn't working. And
Speaker:my wife would do techniques in that book, and it just And I didn't even
Speaker:know it. I I read the chapter, and and then later, she's,
Speaker:like, you notice I did this? That was in chapter whatever. I'm like,
Speaker:oh, you sneaky. So but she pushed me,
Speaker:and then it made me say, oh, you know what? Yes. I'm not gonna quit.
Speaker:I'm just gonna, you know, relook at it and relaunch it and do some
Speaker:things. So I would say the 5 love languages because it brought she and I
Speaker:closer, And it helped each of our endeavors and
Speaker:businesses that we were, you know, working towards, and it just it it
Speaker:exploded everything for us. Show, yeah, 5 love
Speaker:languages is what I would recommend. That is a great, book. And by
Speaker:the way, that's, for anyone listening in who hasn't heard of it, that's Gary
Speaker:Chapman, that, wrote that book.
Speaker:And I will say that it it does relate to business in the
Speaker:fact that all of our clients have love languages as well.
Speaker:And and so, yeah, not just our partner, but each one
Speaker:of them, will Value one of
Speaker:those love languages more than the others. And when you can discover what
Speaker:that is and deliver your service or Deliver your
Speaker:content in a way that resonates with that, you're gonna have a much
Speaker:higher acceptance rate. And sometimes it's well, it's gonna be
Speaker:different for everyone. Especially when I'm working with people 1 on 1, it's
Speaker:like, what does this person value the most?
Speaker:Sometimes it's that extra little gift. Sometimes it's it's
Speaker:it's an extra service. Sometimes it's just
Speaker:some, acknowledgement. Right? And
Speaker:Anderson there's different ways that we can communicate
Speaker:with people based upon what we know They value and
Speaker:what their love language is. And so Love that. Take that to a
Speaker:whole another level. Yes. Talk to the Kentucky Man, look at this. This
Speaker:recommendation. Anderson we'll we'll definitely
Speaker:add that to our learning library. We'll put links to it here, beneath
Speaker:this video and in the the show notes. So,
Speaker:Lyon, great great episode. I I really,
Speaker:look forward to publishing this one and Seeing what else you and I
Speaker:can, come up with, it it's it's great to get to know
Speaker:you a little bit more here through this process. Yeah.
Speaker:And so to bring this episode to a close, if you were to just give
Speaker:our listeners one final piece of advice or words of wisdom,
Speaker:What would you leave them here with today? There we go. That's
Speaker:the rub. I would say you must get those
Speaker:gremlins Off your shoulders. If you
Speaker:were sitting there, you're thinking, I want to do this, but I'm afraid
Speaker:someone's going to reject me. Someone's gonna Say no. The world
Speaker:hey. It always happens. But you gotta start. And as I tell
Speaker:my students, start Ugly. I don't care
Speaker:about perfection. I care that you start. Hit
Speaker:record, practice, do whatever you gotta do, But
Speaker:stop being afraid and go after it. Every year, we say the same thing. Oh,
Speaker:I'm a do this and resolutions Anderson but do not try to eat
Speaker:that steak at once. Cut it up small
Speaker:pieces. You will eventually eat the entire steak.
Speaker:Just don't try to swallow it all at once. And that's my advice is to
Speaker:Just get started. Just do it. Contact me. Contact
Speaker:anyone who you say but contact me first, though,
Speaker:And just start. That's, yeah, that's my advice. Get that gremlin off your
Speaker:shoulder and start. Just
Speaker:start. And then once you start, keep moving forward, and that's
Speaker:and that's Yeah. And and my audience knows I always I always end with
Speaker:that. And so this has been, this has been a great episode. I
Speaker:think this is a game changer in terms of anyone who does presentations,
Speaker:which is pretty much all of us now, in this virtual world,
Speaker:I I am on Zoom multiple times a day, and it can help
Speaker:in so many different ways. So thank you so much for your generosity. Thank you
Speaker:to my audience for being here. I hope you learned something today. And, of course,
Speaker:this only matters if you put it into practice.
Speaker:So I want you to take something that you learned here today and
Speaker:take that action. Maybe it's something to do with your
Speaker:presentations. Maybe it's to go and, download the equipment list
Speaker:or reach out to Lion, and see how he can help.
Speaker:But take 1 action today, that can help
Speaker:you make a big difference in your business tomorrow.
Speaker:And, and never Ever ever give up on your big dream?
Speaker:The only way to fail is to quit, so always keep moving forward.
Speaker:Until next time, this has been Chuck Anderson. My guest has been Lion Flood,
Speaker:Anderson you on the next one,
