Abundance & The Divine, an Interview with Elaine Starling

Welcome to the joyful journey podcast. If you're looking for more clarity in your life, clarity of purpose or how to activate that purpose, and you are someone who wants to operate from your highest self to be a force for good, you know this world craves, then this is the show for you. I'm Anita Adams, your host and guide to finding clarity and creating a life you love. Let's tap into our inner wisdom, access our highest self and unleash joy. As we do this, we raise our vibration and heightened the collective consciousness. And that, my friend, is the joyful journey. Let's dive in. Hey, joyful journey or thanks for tuning in. I'm Anita Adams, your host and today I'm so excited to introduce you to one heck of a fabulous lady Elaine Starling, who is also known as the abundance ambassador. Elaine is a sought after TEDx speaker, international speaker, coach, trainer and successful entrepreneur. Her unusual spiritual awakening, which we'll hear about shortly, prompted her to help purpose driven entrepreneurs thrive so they can make a lasting difference in the world and enjoy a highly successful and fulfilling business. Elaine leads fellow travelers on the abundance journey, which is a six week online experience sharing proven business strategies with personal development and spiritual insights that amplify results. So if you want to find out how to increase your abundance, head over to www the abundance journey.com. And of course, we'll provide all the ways you can connect with Elaine directly in the show notes. Welcome, Elaine. I'm so thrilled to have you here.

I mean, I'm thrilled to be here because I love chatting with you. I mean, every time we get together it's just so much energy and we have such a good time. I think you know, they're not enough days in the year to fit everything that we want to say to each other. So this is gonna be a lot of fun this week, and so yeah, I'm thrilled to pieces to be here. I'm so

glad glad we have had fun together I had the distinct pleasure pleasure to be in introduced on Elaine's show the abundance journey and it was just so much fun. So much fun. So I'm I'm it's gonna be just great to have you here today with me and to get to know you more as well. Deeper every time we get a chance to connect. Right and it's life is about it's connecting with amazing people and super grateful to have you here with me. Yeah. All right. Well, let's start with that unusual spiritual awakening that got you to where you are today. Please tell her

well, you know, it's really interesting. I, I have always been pretty left brain, you know, logical, rational, organized that kind of person. And I had my own company, my own business. And it was really challenging. It was driving me crazy. I kept trying to figure out how can I make some improvements? How can I change this and make it better and easier to do and I just couldn't see a way out. And finally, on my birthday, I was telling my husband, you know what, I'm just gonna stop thrashing. I have so many blessings. I really feel almost guilty for wanting more. Even though my business is driving me nuts. I feel like there are people who would kill to have what I get to experience every day. So who am I to think that I deserve more than this. This is ridiculous. I'm just going to stop thrashing, and enjoy the status quo. If I got hit by a bus tomorrow, I could die happy. Well, a month later, it was New Year's Day 2005. And we were actually on vacation on the South Island of New Zealand in Queenstown, and we'd had breakfast we were walking around the town, it was really lovely. And all of a sudden, my right arm went numb. And the right side of my face went numb. And I was having a stroke. i My husband quickly took me to a little nearby Medical Center. They didn't even have a hospital in town. And the woman gave me half an aspirin and asked me to describe a poster that was on the wall. And I knew what she said and I knew what the poster looked like. But the words that came out of my mouth made no sense. I couldn't come up with the right words. And I felt great. I felt like snoozy Saturday morning, I just want to roll over and go back to sleep. You know, I was not stressed out at all. I knew my husband wasn't too happy. And the medical woman was a little concerned. But I finally was like, please just let me take a nap. Okay, and they did. And as soon as I relaxed, I felt myself inside this massive cloud. I realized later that those were atoms that I was seeing atoms. Yeah, atoms. And I, I knew that I was a part of it, this cloud and the cloud was part of me. And then I got this message. This is perfect. This is just what we wanted. And I knew that they were talking about me. And I'm like, I don't speak multiple languages. I have solved world hunger. I'm not all that. What the heck do you mean? This is perfect. I'm so far we're perfect. And the message came back? No, no, you don't understand honey. You are created with your strengths, your skills, your abilities, your interests, your preferences, and your faults or foibles, your hot buttons, your issues, all of that is needed to create exactly what we want. You are perfect. Exactly as you are, this is what we wanted. You are perfect. And at this point, I'm like, This is

not your

situation. I don't know what's going on here. But it was kind of cool. It was kind of fun. And Inquiring minds want to know, I started asking questions. And every time I'd ask a question, it came into my body instantly, past present future, everything 360 degrees. I describe it as kind of like imagine swallowing Google, with all the photos, all the videos, all the comments, all the like shares, every language, everything all at once, boom, it's in you.

So you mean that you just had this like massive knowledge of everything? Is that what Yeah, as

soon as I asked a question, you

got the answer.

And I just, it was awesome. I was like, What a great time I'm asking all these different questions. And I almost felt like I was at this networking event, right. And I'm having dinner with the Divine and we're chatting and I see other spirits and entities going around. I'm like, Whoa. And it was really funny, because I remember getting the answers in kind of about how life works and all this stuff. And I got a little puffy. I got a little pissed off. But like, yeah, now, it would have been so nice.

A lifetime ago, when we started this brief, you would have saved me. Oh, man.

Have you to make me wait all this time? Why didn't you tell us? And so I got the message back. Well, darling, that's your job. We want you to summarize everything that you learned and share it with humanity. Because if you think they need to know it, we want you to share it. And my immediate response was, I don't think so. I'm a left brain person. I don't Whoo, let alone woo woo, I wouldn't know where to start with this stuff. Are you kidding me. So it has taken me quite a while to stop stopping myself to stop resisting my truth and lean into it with love. And one of the most profound messages that I received that I really want everybody to understand and own.

Love is the blood of the Divine.

Love is the blood of the Divine and you as a human being, are the beating heart of the Divine. You are there to pump love through the divine, which means you expand where you share love, and you pull in and receive love, you can track to receive love. That's not a bad thing. And a lot of people who are very uncomfortable when they retract, but if you don't absorb love and receive love, you cannot give it and we have something called you know stents that we put in when these veins in our heart get blocked. And we can't let the love flow through, easily, effortlessly. And if it's really bad, we bring out the defibrillator kaboom, and we light you up so we can get that energy moving again. Because that's what it's all about. You are here to move the energy of love through the divine. And so everything is there to encourage you inspire you empower you urge you to keep that love energy moving.

That's so interesting, Elaine, and again, I just feel like you You and I are destined to be connected at hearing you speak it, it dovetails so beautifully with what I believe is my calling to do and something I was just working on just this morning. I have these three guiding principles that I teach and it's look listen and learn. And the Learn piece of it is which I was exploring a little deeper about today and the very first thing that we must learn to do is actually love ourself. Love ourselves because love truly is the answer and truly is the answer. And when you learn to love Love yourself, then you can love more with others you can accept what is you can create unlimited possibilities because you're open to receiving more. And the only way you can receive is by having that open, loving heart. So interesting.

Yeah, that was another message I got that at first, it really took me a long time to wrap my head around it. The Divine said, darling, you're tying yourself in knots because you think life is about you isn't really that much about you. Life is through you. It's about your willingness to get out of the way and be that channel of love for the divine. And as you channel that love through you, guess what? You're enriched at the same time?

It's a tutor. Yeah. Right. Yeah, that

is so interesting. I want to go back a little bit. So you're you were saying that, at the very beginning that everything you are is exactly who you are supposed to be? Yet I find we work so hard to change ourselves. So I'm just I'm just curious, what are your What are your thoughts? Can you elaborate on

that? Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. Because I teach something called the abundance journey. And there are four different stages that you go through on the abundance journey. And it's actually an infinity loop, you're never over, you're never done, you're always doing this. And actually, it corresponds with the sharing love and receiving love, sharing love and receiving love. This is the pumping action that we're doing. And so what happens, since it gets to a level of mastery, where you're really good at something and you enjoy doing it, but after a while, oh, same stuff, different day gets a little boring. And so we want to mix it up, we want some fun, we want variety, we want to feel like we're learning new things. And we're challenging ourselves and, and we're expanding and growing. And so, yes, opportunities come up and challenges come up for two reasons. One, to get us to recommit to being our true authentic self, which is that love being. And sometimes you really don't feel like somebody's pushing your buttons. And, and that's a gift. That's actually because every time somebody pushes your buttons, that's an opportunity for you to come and be that love that is asked for in the moment, because we are all mirrors for each other. Yes. And the person who is fussing at you and yelling at you and complaining about you and putting you down, that's actually not about you that's about them, has nothing to do with you. That's all about them. Hmm, they think it's you. It's not it's all about them. So how you show up in response to their situation, when you show up as love, and you celebrate, look, I'm so glad that we have this opportunity to connect. And I understand you acknowledge, I understand you're in a very difficult space right now. been there before, it is no fun, I get it. And I can appreciate how you're going to move through this, I can appreciate how you're showing up right now. And the difference that you're going to experience very soon. So you spend a lot of time acknowledging and appreciating acknowledging and appreciating, because that's when you're fully present for someone and that's when they feel loved. If you can't be present for someone they cannot ever experience your love ever. Hmm.

100% agree. And I love that perspective, may add another perspective on it. And I would love your thoughts on

the layers because you know, there's no one. Everybody has a slightly different take on it. And it aggregates some is the result is greater than some of the parts I never chose.

Yeah, exactly. And I love I love absolutely everything you're you're saying. And I want to acknowledge that we do get triggered by people. Yeah. And I think the triggers are part of that mirror. Like if you if you're being triggered by something, then it's you or it's being reflected back to you what's what's upsetting, maybe something you're seeing something in yourself that you don't like or it's it's bringing up something of your past that you haven't resolved. So I see those opportunities, not only to perhaps give love to the person that is triggering you, I see that yourself. Yeah, no, but hold on. I see that as almost a next step. I feel like what we need to do is when we get triggered is to step back and go okay, why? What is going on here that I feel so angry about what that person just said or did what is really going on with me, and then breaking that down spending some time to really analyze that and then the next time it happens, you're less likely to read respond in such a negative way and you can then move into what you were talking about and responding with love. Yeah.

Both of those are ways you grow. And yeah, it was Talking about two things. The reason why you're triggered two things, first of all is growth, which is growth in loving yourself and growth and loving others. And the second thing is growth in approaching a new thing, a new challenge and learning something new, right, expanding your skill set, expanding your interests. And that's why you experienced these challenges. Absolutely.

It's very interesting. So it's the challenges that come to us the things that we need, we feel, I hate to say the word fixed, I don't like to, I don't like thinking that I have to be fixed. I like to think that I am growing and expanding, though. So he's the things that maybe I don't like about myself, are pointing to the opportunities where I can grow and expand.

Yeah, there's nothing broken about you ever, there's nothing broken about you, there might be some energy that isn't flowing as effectively as it could be. And so you're not receiving as many blessings as you might want to. And I find that one of the challenges we often fall into is we kind of get this tunnel vision, it's like, we're looking at things and we want things to show up in a certain way. And so this is all that's real for me is if I if I just only focus on this narrow little window, and in real reality, what is much more effective. If you've ever locked watch shooting stars at night, you know that you do want to kind of focus on one area of the star field, but you hold your peripheral vision open to because you want to see if there's any little tiny flash of light anywhere, your peripheral vision, and then what that grabs your attention. And that's how you're able to notice more blessings, they're there, and you're being showered all the time. But as we get this tunnel, we don't always notice the blessings that are all around us.

I like that analogy a lot. That's really great. There's clarity in that. Thank you for sharing that. You mentioned at the beginning, when you when you receive these messages you refer to they was their arms. Okay? Can you talk a little bit about that?

There are so many entities there that love you and support you. There are angels, there are ancestors, there are actually your descendants. Everyone is there in spiritual form. And so yes, there is this God essence, that is in all of us. So if you think about it this way, think about this way. So if you imagine that God is pure love, and God knows that everything that happens is designed to be love. How do you expand love? Well, you have to create an entity like a human being that thinks there's a right and wrong, a good and a bad a yes and a no, that looks at polarity and sees opposites. Because if you think everything's love that everything's groovy, and nothing has to change. from the human perspective, we think things need to change, like yesterday would be really good. And so ultimately, we discover what gets to change is us. We get to change our perspective and our ability to observe the many blessings that are there. We get to grow our self love, and love for others. As we expand our abilities. How beautiful is that? And as we grow in love, we are actually growing the divine. That's how God grows through us. We are in partnership with the divine total partnership with the divine. Yeah, I

believe that full heartedly too, that's beautiful. You have a gift at explaining things in a way that just makes it really clear. I love the analogies, you use everything. So thank you for all that. Your your stroke feels, it seems like the stroke was the lifting of the veil, if you will,

yes. Are you?

Do you have any insights or thoughts on on how the stroke triggered that? Or does that remain a mystery? Does it even need to be understood?

You know, it's one of those things where when the divine wants to get your attention and wants to make sure that you know something, they'll find a way to make it happen. It's not really up to you. So one of the things that I realized that I thought was really interesting, because I got back from having a stroke, and I came out of it with no damage at all. Only proof of my stroke as the hospital bill. That's it. I mean, how can it get even better than this? Thank you. Thank you. And so I started doing all this research because I wanted to understand Wow, that was incredible. I mean, I've got this incredible download. It felt like I was standing under a Niagara Falls of love and blessings and amazing perfection and it was freaking awesome. And I'm like that, sign me up for another one of those. Thank you very much. So so here I am back in my human self and I'm doing all this research and I'm trying to figure out some What do you do to get that connection going? And hearing about you, you just have to allow it, you know, you have to open and allow it and just receive it. And I'm like, okay, groovy. See, I am allowing, and I'm just allowing my little heart out. And I would get little drips, you know, it felt kind of like a partially blood watering can. But I got some downloads, and it always felt awesome. It always felt great. And finally, I'm like, you know, this allowing thing just is not working for me what's going on here? I immediately got the message. What's the image that comes to mind, when you think of the word allowing, I immediately saw myself behind the door with a chain on the door, and I'm peeking out the door at the divine. And I'm really anxious that this might just be way too confusing, a way overwhelming. And so I want to protect myself, and I've got my hand on the door, so I can slam it shut, just in case I'm too overwhelmed. And then I realized, oh, allowing is a word for me. That is a mind word. And the Divine is way bigger than my mind can ever understand. So of course, it freaks my mind out when I tried to allow da so I asked myself well, what is a word that is more of a heart based word that describes the kind of relationship I truly want to have with the divine

welcoming. Now I welcome

your opening the door, when you walk in

the door off the hinges and tossed it because I don't need a barrier between me and the divine. The Divine has my best interests at heart, the Divine is pure love. The Divine is a kick in the pants, by the way, the way I my experience of the Divine, they are effervescent joy, they are happy dance, they are silly, they are outrageous. They're ridiculous. And they are just having the best time ever. And if half the time I'm like, Okay, you guys need to cool it just a little bit. So I can grasp some things that you're sharing with me. And they're always saying, you know, like, not funny. Honestly, you were just so serious, you need to have more fun, because when you're having more fun, and you're playful, we can get the messages through a lot easier. You want to lighten up now.

That's beautiful. I love that if you have any invite advice for myself or others who are listening on an exercise that we can do to create that allowing to create the welcome is it really a word that we need to land on?

It depends. It's different for each person, you need to feel with your heart what feels right to you. For me, welcoming is a hard word. And allowing is a mind word, right? I wanted to use a heart word to connect with the divine. That's a much faster, much more easy connection, to connect through your heart with the divine. So what I do is I just say I choose to be in alignment with the divine, I have total choice. And so we discover as we really listen to the words that we're using. We're choosing to make it really difficult. Oh, it's so hard for me to connect with divine. There was that choice. That's not the choice I want. I want the choice. It's so easy for me to be connected with. I get divine messages all the time. They are Chatty Cathy, man, let me tell ya, I welcome messages from the Divine. I choose to be in alignment with the divine, make sure that you are making a conscious choice, ask a question, and then relax. And it start writing. I find that sometimes it doesn't even make sense when I start writing. And my mind just isn't quite getting it. But I go ahead and write everything down that's coming through. And when I go back and read it, it's like,

yeah, I'm doing the same thing right now. That's, that's new for me. I'm actually and I'm tuning into sort of a theta sound waves just to help get into that zone. It's part of my new morning practice. I've only just started doing this. It's been really interesting. It's a fun experience. And I'm getting also the last last two episodes that I've recorded that I haven't released yet actually on my podcast, but will soon were results of my writing stream of consciousness feeling like channeling some energy and it's like, wow, this is super cool. Super cool. I usually do that sort of thing like prior to bite my journaling, exercise, channeling exercise. I would have that conversation in the forest or my walk and I would literally like I put my hands out and I would just as I'm walking through the forest, I would say my heart is open to you to receive please come into my heart, you know and and, and that's just sometimes i i would just get a feeling of love. More than anything and then many times, I would also receive some really cool messages. And it's

pretty remarkable. It's funny, I was chatting with a client of mine, and he's like, oh, man, it was awesome. I was listening to this one song and all these messages came through. And you know, and then when the song was over, I couldn't remember this. And I said, Okay, so what you want to do is you want to say, I choose to receive the same message over and over again, until I capture everything that you want me to know.

Oh, I like that. That's a nice little. I choose receive,

I choose the same message

over and over and over again until I can No, yeah, I'm going to use that. I feel like I lose so much, especially when I'm walking because I'm like, sometimes I'll pull up my cell phone, and I'll dictate something into my cell phone. That's really cool. Nice tip. Okay, you you mentioned when you first got this divine download to to do this, this work, you're like, Whoa, that's just too big. That's too big. When did you finally or what was what happened that triggered the courage for you to step into

this purpose. You know, it's very interesting. I came back from the stroke and resumed my normal life. And my father in law was very sick. And so we helped him with end of life issues. And he passed, and then my father went through that process and passed, and then my mother in law got very sick with stage four ovarian cancer, we've moved in with her for two years and supported her on her transition. And then my mom passed. So over a 10 year period, we were there with our parents, I wasn't blessed with children. But I was blessed with really awesome parents, and no greater blessing than having the ability due to being an entrepreneur and having a flexible schedule that I could be there for all of them, and really support them in the transition. And I know that one of the big reasons why I had that conversation with the Divine is they didn't want me stressed out about that process of transition. So I just wanted to share with everybody truly, it's not a big deal. Okay, you've done this many times in the past, you would do this many times in the future. It's kind of like the difference between kindergarten and first grade. In kindergarten, there's naptime in first grade, no more, naptime. Physical, you have a body when you're not physical, nobody. And you're still there, and you're still doing a whole lot of stuff. And you're busy, and you're excited, and you're having fun, and you send blessings to everybody that you've ever been in connection with, in whatever form they're in. And yes, people can continue to connect with you. My dad always freaked out about me merging onto the freeway. I don't know why, but he was very worried about me merging on the freeway. So now he clears space for me. Every single time I go to you, and you

ask me, do you make make that ask?

Sometimes if it looks like there's a lot of traffic, they'll say, Hey, Dad, I really need your help right now. Generally, I just look over and there's an open space. And I always say thanks, Dad, I really appreciate it. Because he does that for me. My father in law sends me blue birds, and they will fly alongside while I'm walking out in nature until I noticed them. And then they fly overhead Bluebird of happiness. Having a great day, sweetie, hope you do too.

Yeah, I can recognizing the signs,

recognizing the signs, declaring the signs, because they are all around you. And they're coming to you all the time. But when you go, Oh, it's just a bird, you know, oh, look at the draw that I got in now. Acknowledge the blessing that you received and actually appreciate it feel gratitude for this wonderful blessing that they just got in touch. And they care about you, and they love you. And they want you to be happy and having fun. And they're so proud of you. They are so proud of you.

Yeah, very cool. That's so neat. I have to share just a tiny little story that happened just three days ago. So I've been I'm trying to lift the veil more, you know that I feel it's part of my journey. I want to lift the veil. And so I'm doing a lot of what you're talking about. And even just asking, asking for things like asking for a sign like I want to sign it's not that I'm looking for proof. I just I want to feel that connection. I want to know that there's more I want to I want to feel like there is somebody something this divine beingness that is around me all the time. And so I've been doing this walk here on Bowen Island for the last two years pretty much every day. And I was on this trail that I do every single day. And I was thinking about this and then I just stopped and I said I want to sign and then I turned and I looked and to my right was this this chain that had been looped over this branch and it was an old channel looks like had been there, I don't know forever. And it was in a circular pattern over this branch. And I'm like, That's a sign and the sign, I had to go back and look it up. What does chain What does chain mean? And it represents so many different things. It has many, many meanings. But one of them is interconnectivity, and how it's all interconnected. And I thought it was interesting that it was connected over the branch of a tree, because I talked about so much about how important nature is and how it's, we are so connected to nature and everything. And when we, when we connect to nature, we're connecting to our higher self. And I felt like that was a reinforcement of that message. And because I have been questioning that questioning, I've been exploring the message in which in part is about teaching people to connect with nature. And I'm like, is that really? Is that really my message? Is that really what I need to do? And I keep getting? Yes, it's yours to do. And then to see this, this sign, if you will always walk into the forest the other day, I'm like, okay, I get it. Keep talking about the importance of being in nature and connecting with nature and connecting with your higher self, because it's all connected. So anyways, I digress a little but that I thought, Oh, that's

beautiful. That's beautiful. And one of the things that's so powerful is when you declare, I am connected, yes, I am connected. And now I see a sign that validates everything that I already know. That's really powerful. Because whatever you're declaring to be your truth, whatever you believe is true is true. And it's not true for everybody, but it's true for you know, so you want to pay attention to what you're declaring. Yeah, so yeah, I love that. Thank you.

I want to I want to preference your TED Talk. So awesome. TED Talk.

Thank you. And you 50,000 BioPhar.

And Elaine just put this out like a couple of months ago was March when it went up. So 150,000 views so far. And I just I think it's great. I'm curious, was that part of what you you felt you were called to do like to give that TED Talk? Was there an instruction specifically do a TED Talk? Or was it just get your message out there. And you saw that as a vehicle to do that? It was

kind of a combination of things. Because the very first time I saw a TED talk, I think it was Brene. Brown. And I was like, Oh my gosh, I want to do a TED talk. Yeah. And I had no idea what I would do a TED talk about, but it was one of those, okay, bucket list. I call it a celebration of life list. Because this is not an end, this is an opening at the beginning. And then I had this incredible experience, I put together the abundance journey with the divine guidance that I received, because I would ask questions, and I would just kind of explore and this chart came to me, and very simple instructions came to me and examples, I'd be guided to different books and story isn't everything genetically assembled perfectly. And then I was at a networking event and met a guy who teaches speakers how to get on a TED Talk and how to how to do a TED talk. So I took his course. And then I worked with him as a private coach. And I got the TED Talk. And my goal is to reach 10 million people. Because the name of the talk is abundance is a choice. And abundance is a choice is really talking about your mindset. Because when you have your mindset, right, all of a sudden things start to open up for you. So it's not a blatantly spiritual message, but it does share the foundation of the abundance journey. That's awesome. So

and you you teach the the four steps to activate abundance. That's kind of your signature program, if I'm not mistaken. Are you able to give us sort of the broad strokes of what those four steps are?

Absolutely. I want everybody to activate abundance, whether you're doing the abundance or you're not, I want you to activate abundance, and I want you to activate it all the flippin time. Because this will just transform your life in every way imaginable. So I teach the abundance journey where you understand the four stages and what you go through. And in each stage, I provide some different examples. And so the words change, but then I take you behind the scenes and I'm like, Haha, you're actually activating abundance. Gotcha. Yeah. So I want you to activate it all the time. So here's the five steps. Step one, celebrate in advance. Okay, I'm gonna activate abundance with you right now with Anita, celebrate in advance. You are listening to the podcast or watching this video show and you've connected your energy to ours. And if you hadn't noticed We tend to be pretty high vibe people. So it's really, really interesting but who you hang out with, and the people you're connected with literally do lift your energy, I've got a whole podcast that I did about the three degrees of influence rule, you really want to pay attention to that, because it's amazing how much impact you have, and how much influence you have three levels away from you, your friends, friends, friends, and now baby, we're friends. Okay, so celebrate our energies connected. The second thing, acknowledge a new insight that you received today. Maybe it's about the words that you're using and saying welcoming and sort of allowing, and only do that if it resonates for you, because everybody uses language differently. It's got to be a heart based word for you. But recognizing the power of that, and just acknowledging it, by the way, that's your first transformation. Okay, step one, celebrate in advance. Step two, acknowledge something that you identified this, that's really interesting, then appreciate the difference it can make in your life. Just imagine, if you welcomed in divine energy all the time. Imagine if you welcomed abundance, if you welcomed vibrant health, if you welcomed all your future clients, because you could do that, too. It's really, really fun when you start being playful with this, and have fun with it. So appreciate how it's lifting your energy, I'm feeling a much higher vibration right now, just just in this conversation. So the fourth step is activate abundance. And the way you activate abundance is you either pick a trigger, that's going to remind you to do that action, or you actually put it on your calendar, like you were saying that you are journaling in the mornings, and you're listening to the theta thing before you journal. So whatever works for you to activate abundance, but it's an action that you're going to take, that's going to get you closer to your goal, and you're leveraging what you just acknowledged and appreciate it. So it's an action step related to that. Okay, so we celebrate in advance, acknowledge something that you learned that you think will make a difference. Appreciate the difference that can make in your life, pick an action you're going to take to activate the abundance we just talked about, and then celebrate again, because you're making progress and full circle. You do celebration is two fifths of the process, because you have to acknowledge your progress, and nobody else is going to see it but you and if you don't love on yourself, nobody else can love on you. So those are the five steps.

Awesome. Now that celebration piece is that something that I talked about is when you're wanting to manifest you, you are grateful for what is and you're grateful for what is yet to come. So you're actually celebrating what you haven't received yet, but you're celebrating as if you've you've received it so that

that is so important. And what you do is you feel gratitude. Yeah, gratitude. It's really easy to feel gratitude. Oh, I have total clarity about what I want. Oh, that's wonderful. I'm not distracting myself. I'm not denying that I want it. I'm not pretending it's impossible. No, I'm accepting. I'm welcoming the fact. And I feel so grateful that I know what I want. Awesome. That feeling of gratitude is exactly the feeling you want to make things manifest. I just read the new book new at the moment by Neale Donald Walsch called the God solution.

I'm a huge fan of his I didn't even know he had a new book.

No, I love your stuff. And I just I just ate it this weekend. So God solution, the gods solution. In that book, he talks about what we're talking about now about feeling gratitude. And he said, the thing you need to understand is that gratitude is not just an emotion. Gratitude is a decision. Ah, so when you feel gratitude, you have decided, this is what I want. Mm hmm. This is who I am. I'm living in gratitude. And I'm ready for everything that matches that vibration. Just show up for me and bring me more gratitude. Yeah. does not

feel good. It does. I love it. Yeah, it's beautiful. So I'm thinking about how some people myself included in the past I have learned this, that when we we've I've had a gratitude practice for years and I think a lot of people have gratitude practices, and they may treat them like you know, the 10 sit ups that they have to do in the morning. And they're just trying to get through it really fast and just pump it out. And I used to do that I just like I would list off my gratitude and I wasn't taking my time to slow down and to really absorb the feeling and it is the the feeling is an expanding heart. It is how I how I describe that feeling of gratitude when you really sit in your gratitude and breathe into it. You feel your heart expand. And that feeling is that is the energy. I believe that Neale Donald Walsch probably, and so many others who talk about this, you know, in the in the secret and all those different sources that talk about the importance of gratitude, it's so much more than just listing off your, your gratitudes, it's,

you know, one of the things I want people to experiment with is gratitude in advance. This is a form of celebrating in advance. So one of the things that I've done for years, sometimes I'll write down what I'm grateful for before it happens. And so I'll say, you know, I am so happy and grateful that I need two incredible mentors today. And I receive the guidance that I'm looking for. And later, I'll be in line at the grocery store, or Starbucks or something. And there are total strangers in front of me and they're having a conversation. I have no idea what they're talking about. But something they say, it's like a lightbulb goes off for me. And that's the guidance I was looking for. So when I'm grateful in advance, I'm telling my non conscious mind my subconscious mind. Pay attention. Yeah, there is guidance for me here. All around you. Yeah, I'm trying to tune in.

That's so interesting. So that that comes to that. That choice that you're you mentioned at the beginning, abundance is a choice. And if we choose that this is something that we want, I want guidance. I'm great. No, not even you're not saying I want guidance. I'm grateful that the guidance I'm going to receive today. Yes, you are. You are taking it to a subconscious level as well. You're you're Yeah, very, very cool. I'm going to do that I'm gonna affect is that it

really works. Yeah. But the other thing that's really funny, okay, this is a super ninja trick secret, okay. Love it, I'll be having a conversation, like the awesome conversation that we're having, right? And I'm sharing all this great advice and insight and stuff for the other person, right? So the divine, I cannot tell you how many times I've said this to me, they're like, you know, darling,

we kind of thing. It maybe

we are finally able to get a message into your little noggin, and have you assigned words to it. And then it comes out of your mouth, through your throat using your breath and your words and your tonality, that maybe, maybe you'll finally hear it really liked. And if you were paying attention to what you're saying, because you know, you're talking to them. That is a ninja trick. Because so often we're like, we're trying to be of service to someone else. And we're really trying to help them. And at the same time, this is a great message for us. Remember, we're that mirror, everything that we're trying to give to someone else is actually trying to be given to us. So are you willing to receive? Hmm.

I've got another question. And I feel like we've already addressed it in kind of some roundabout ways. But I think it's important to really draw presence to this. What is the gatekeeper to an abundant heart,

ah, choice.

So there are two different things that you are working with. The first one is your intention. Your intention is how you want to feel in the present moment. And there are two opposites for intention. Sometimes you really want to feel right, you know, you've been working on something you've been thinking about something for a long time, you've got a certain process that you use, and you really want people to validate your belief that you have figured this out. And this is right, darn it. This is right. Now, the problem with the right is that it tends to shut you down. You've gone into tunnel vision. When you insist upon being right. The opposite end of intention is being receptive. You are confident in your own beliefs and your own self and you're open to whatever else is coming your way. Whatever other blessings, you can receive blessings of all kinds from everybody and then later you'll figure out how that fits for you. Right now you're going to be open and present for the situation to the other people. So that's the first part. Okay. Can I jump in and us? Okay, okay, go ahead. Okay, okay. I'm just trying to put this

into some perspective with wanting, a lot of people are wanting to have financial abundance. And so like I'm just thinking if to have the At Open NES, instead of saying, being so focused on I'm going to make my money through this business. And that's how I'm going to, you know, find my financial success to keep the receptors open to receive in any, it could come to you in any form. But if we're so focused on just having financial success from this business, then we lose that we don't see the shooting stars that are happening.

Exactly, exactly. Money loves me, and it's finding me today, money is a form of love energy. And so the more I show up as love that is a form of abundance. And the more I show up as love in my life, and with others, the more money is able to find me in all kinds of weird, wild, wonderful ways. People will call me out of the blue and ask to coach with me, I have people calling me and asking me to come on stages. I

just coming in all sorts of

time, and I had that was not on my list. It was really interesting. I was taking care of my parents and my in laws my father had passed, my mom was still around. And I had inherited some land from my parents, and it was in a remote area, and they just wanted somebody to want it. Nobody else in the family would touch it, nobody wanted it. So my husband, I'd say, You know what, we're gonna want it. It's not practical, it doesn't make any logical sense. There's no rational reason why we should want this. And we're gonna want it because we love these parents, and we want to honor and respect them. So we accepted this beautiful gift of land. And out of the blue, a big company contacted us and paid us beaucoup bucks for that land that we didn't need that we didn't want that we had we it wasn't like it was up for sale. Just totally. So he loves you and is trying to find you welcome money in in all forms, and expects that money is showing up in all kinds of weird and wonderful ways. And the more playful you can be about it, the better when you get really fixated on who's gonna get this many clients. Oh, yeah, you're making it so much harder for the mind to help you. Yeah, it's really

just kind of like go. Yeah. Very cool.

All right, you were in the middle of telling? Yes.

So we talked about intention, and the two opposite ends are being right or being receptive. And then the vertical axis that I talked about is attention. That's what you are noticing. And you will find, especially as you pay attention to the words that you're using, are you noticing all the things that are not working? We tend to do that a lot. It's like, boy, this weather steaks, yeah, it really got. So it's a form of connection, because we can all relate, like, we've all had times that we're not so lot. But the problem is, it's also very repellent. Because people they've been there before, but they don't really want to go there right now, they're much rather be in a happier place. And because you are so contagious, it really helps when you're focusing on what is working, put your attention on what is working. So you go through a process where there are times when your intention is to be right. And your focus is on what is not working. And that's when you're noticing all the problems that are showing up in your life. Then you move on to potential, which is where you still really want to be right. But you're noticing what is working. And all of a sudden, this is the space where your gap, gathering your strength, you're nourishing yourself, you're loving yourself, you're owning who you truly are. And it's kind of like oceans at the shore. You've seen them where they've come up on the shore, and then they start to pull back and they pull back and they pull back and they pull back and they pull back and pulled up. And then they crashed down. Because they're gathering their energy. They're gathering all that strength. And so that problem and potential side is where you're contracting and gathering your strength. And then you move on to progress. This is where you're wide open in your intention. But you're still focused on what's not working. Are we there yet? I've been doing this. Are we there yet? Is it over? Can we get there? How much further? What are we gonna get there? Right? That's that quadrant, which is really annoying. And then when you're in the top right quadrant, which is you are wide open with your intention and your attention is on everything that's working in your life. That is where prosperity lives that is work fulfillment and happiness and joy in everything that you want lives. And ironically, when you get to that state, and you really start to leverage up using that activate abundance process, you start to discover that there are blessings in every single

quadrant. Mm hmm.

even more like we were talking about earlier, the challenges are the places where we're growing, right? Yes.

Always, always everything is a gift for you. And when you can discover The Gift within, then you start to really relax and enjoy life. And let in even more abundance. Yeah. And you get abundance of all kinds.

Yeah, times. Beautiful.

You said something at the very beginning, I just don't want to go back to it. Because I think there there's a lot of people that may find this very relatable. And you, you said, Who am I to think that I deserve more than this? Who am I to think that I deserve more than this? Do you want to talk about that a little bit and, and maybe help some of our listeners who who suffer from not believing that they should ask for more, because they already have a beautiful light? Well, it's

one of those classic things that I that message that I got darling, life isn't really that much about you. Life is you. So when you take the time to nurture yourself, and you're a busy mom, and you're going nuts, doing things for everybody else, and then you stop for a moment, and you do something that really enriches you. And you've got a dream of something you want to do in your business or your life, you want to run a marathon or something, and you take the time, and you point out to your kids, this is special to me, this is how this is growing me. This is how this is challenging me. And I so appreciate you for loving me enough to encourage me and empower me to expand

this way. Guess what you just did? You created a

an opportunity for them to love you. And you've been loving on them forever. And they've been desperate to figure out how do I return the favor. So when you make it really clear, here's how you can love me back. I so appreciate you in doing this. And you make it really clear that they have permission to do that in their own lives. Right?

You're modeling emotionally

healthy behavior. Yes. Yeah. Beautiful. They answer the question.

Yes, I believe so. And and, and this idea that life is not about you, but it comes through you. So by opening yourself and allowing yourself to receive more, you're putting more love and energy into the world as well. So it is not, you know, think some of us and myself, I've been there before to where I felt like I have I have sucked so much beauty in my life. And I feel like it I don't really feel this way now. But it wasn't too long ago where I felt like it was wrong of me to want more. It was wrong of me to have that desire when I have so much. And there's so many people in the world that don't have what I have.

And the more you have, the more you can share, the more you can give the bigger difference you can make. So I had a mentor early on after my stroke challenged me to live a 9010 life. And I'm not there yet. But a 9010 life is where I get to live a ridiculously well on 10% of my income and make a difference with 90%. And I really truly want to get to that space. And that means I got to make a whole lot of money. How am I going to make Oh, a lot of money. I got to love a whole lot of people and make a massive transformation for a whole lot of people. Because money is just a form of love energy. And when they are loving, you know what, when they're paying me they're not loving me. They're loving themselves, because they're investing in themselves to experience transformation. And when you can empower people to love themselves finally, and own who they are, and celebrate who they are, and not get stuck and open instead. So that they can share fully who they are their gifts. They're channeling massive amounts of love divine energy, to all the people that they support. And they're empowering those people to grow. I mean, it's just an ever, never ending expansion. And that's what the divine really wants. So stop playing small, stop pretending that you're supposed to be small. That is not what the divine wants for you. The Divine wants you to aim that fire hose. And you can either be a little tiny swizzle stick, which you can barely suck anything through. Or you can be the size of one of those massive pipes in a dam. That's like a skyscraper big all the way around. And you can channel that much divine energy through you. And when you do that, and you show up that way. Oh, baby, look out. This world's gonna be a much much better place.

That's brilliant. It's so wonderful that it all comes down to To love just so it's it's one thing that you have that intention of love, love for self love for others and focus on that and everything will spring forward from that. Does it get easier than that? It doesn't. I know it's not easy. It's not easy to learn to love. It's simple. It is simple. It takes work. It's kind

of like climbing Mount Everest, right? You just put one foot in from the other. Oh, and by the way, it's straight up and there's no oxygen. But you know, it's really, really super easy. Like that. We like a challenge, though. We like to grow, we don't want to get bored. We want to expand and as you start to notice your own expansion, it gets really fun. And exciting.

Yeah, 100%. So awesome. I love this conversation. I feel like we can just keep going on and on.

Time going, Oh, bummer.

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