Kitti Andrew’s Transformative Journey Of Decluttering

Saylor Cooper: 00:00:10

Hello everybody welcome to another episode of

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Hope Without Sight with you have Saylor Cooper's and your co host

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Tyler Evans Yeah, this is episode 41. Exactly. Well, we

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are going to we have a very special person on this episode

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she is a master at decluttering the mind and space around us. I

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cannot describe No words can describe the admiration I have

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for this beautiful soul. She's from Halifax, Nova Scotia,

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Canada, by the way, I've never been there. But as soon as I

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have the money, I want to get on a plane and go because I heard

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it's beautiful. She is an author has written several books, spent

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in magazines. She has done endless work. And she also is

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discovering more about herself that she never knew. I'll let

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her tell you that. Please welcome my our fabulous friend

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who we met a speaker's Playhouse live in Dallas, Katie Angeles.

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Kate, how you doing today?

Kitti Andrews: 00:01:19

Sir, thank you so much. I'm looking forward to to

Kitti Andrews: 00:01:23

being on your show. And thank you for having me. It's so it is

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my honour.

Saylor Cooper: 00:01:29

Thank you simply as a thank and thanks for

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agreeing to come on the show. So let's get started. I know you

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want show my show would be a good fit for you. But I told you

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but other than that, it's like, had it How are you going to pass

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the hope of that site says hey, despite that, despite the

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absence of hope there's a light at the end of the tunnel

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basically.

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There you go, very job and live a very good

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job elaborate on that title. And then our mission is we want we

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you know, we feature people who come from the darkness to way

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way low, long life to try and now live a blissful life. And

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less is a must work and my vocabulary, just the sound of it

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was just so incredible. I you know, I can describe it even

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more. And, you know, we want to teach people how to live a life

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where bless reigns supreme. And so Katie, please get us started.

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Tell us about how your journey started. Our challenges and

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hardships you've overcome Silva floor is yours.

Kitti Andrews: 00:03:57

Ah. Well, thank you after I've been my my brain

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has been racing while you two were talking and I've got so so

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many ideas. Normally what Okay. Let's, shall we start with with

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what I help people to do? And then we can backtrack. Does that

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does that work?

Saylor Cooper: 00:04:19

Yeah. Do you have do it however you feel? Go

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ahead.

Kitti Andrews: 00:04:23

Okay, so my official tagline is, I help

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entrepreneurs to organise their space and streamline their

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thoughts so that they can focus on being profitably productive.

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Now what that means in real language, you know, we all have

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that I help people phrase and what that means in real language

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is I help people to declutter their space and their brain so

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that they can really make something of themselves so that

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they can be that person that they want to be. Now normally

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when I come on to a show I talk about an easy way for people to

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declutter so that they don't get overwhelmed. Because

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decluttering can be really, really overwhelming overwhelming

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if you're faced with, if you've been in your home for 20 years,

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you've account, you've accumulated a lot of stuff,

Kitti Andrews: 00:05:19

right? Oh, for

Saylor Cooper: 00:05:21

sure. And yeah, actually, I like what you do,

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because I feel like I can declutter, because we'll go as

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deep into this a little further, but I believe I, I believe

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everybody has some form of something like I have ADHD and

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with ADHD, like you're playing, it's just scattered all over the

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place, you just don't know where to begin. Like, sometimes I can

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have, you know, a messy counter level over here. You know, it

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can relate to my, you know, my day, sometimes I have, I don't

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have a good course of action as far as what are the things what

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I want to do throughout my day, and I want to declutter that as

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much as I can. I hope I'm making sense you all you are

Kitti Andrews: 00:06:11

making perfect sense. And if I can speak into

Kitti Andrews: 00:06:14

that, you you gave me the perfect segue, bro. For that, I

Kitti Andrews: 00:06:22

could not have scripted that my friend. You mentioned ADHD.

Kitti Andrews: 00:06:29

Well, my company name is of course decluttered the brain and

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people come and come to me with physical clutter. But problems

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and how do I get over the overwhelm but really, it

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inevitably changes to the confusion in it the clutter in

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the brain that which came first the clutter and was the the

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clutter in the brain or the or the or the physical clutter? And

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everybody tells me that the mental clutter is more difficult

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to deal with this a kidney we can pick up the physical

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clutter, we just don't want to but when your brain is cluttered

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when you've got a million thoughts going in all

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directions, that is really difficult and sealer I struggled

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with that. Well, I'm I sometimes still struggle, but not as often

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because I've developed a system but I'm a full blown ADHD card

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carrying flagwaving ADHD. And most of my clients are too

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because our brains are so busy with with with all of the sites

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and all of their projects. So we've taken on that it can that

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can get overwhelming and frankly, paralysing and then you

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to quote you, and then one does not know where to turn, you just

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stand in the middle of your room saying what to do next. I don't

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even know what to do next. And I help people to take that next

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step. And that's and that is what you're doing as well is

Kitti Andrews: 00:08:08

giving them inspiration to Okay, calm down. Here's the next small

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step that you can take. And people try to take on too much.

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And they think that they're going to be able to get it all

Kitti Andrews: 00:08:21

done in one day. Whatever it is. And that's that's not the case,

Kitti Andrews: 00:08:27

the brain is just not wired that way. Nor should it be. Would you

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agree with me that if you do one thing and do one thing? Well,

Kitti Andrews: 00:08:38

then you can move on to the next thing? Do what do

Saylor Cooper: 00:08:42

you? Absolutely, yeah, yeah. Something like

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before moving on?

Tyler Evans: 00:08:47

Oh, yeah. It's kind of like, if you think about it,

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it's kind of like treatments of certain conditions that says,

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I'm going to suffering from a whole host of conditions that

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can be neurological, like epilepsy, it could be

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hypertension, it could be whatever. And sometimes you need

Tyler Evans: 00:09:03

more than one medicine to control that particular

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conditions. And sometimes you start out with just one. And if

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it's resistant, you add to another one. Another medicine or

Tyler Evans: 00:09:13

whatever. Yeah, no, it's kind of like what you're saying here

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with the brain. Sometimes you got to learn something, move on.

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Keep applying that same skill and then learn a different one.

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And move on. Like, let's say you're in a series, you know.

Kitti Andrews: 00:09:28

Yeah, yeah. And it builds on itself, doesn't it?

Kitti Andrews: 00:09:31

Tyler? Yeah, it does. Yeah.

Tyler Evans: 00:09:34

It's the same with like, it's the same with like,

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medicine medicines, the same concept. You know, it is yeah,

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people. You know,

Kitti Andrews: 00:09:43

you were asking me before but about my journey

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and, and turning point and aha moment and all of those kinds of

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things. When when we when we were planning to do this, the

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last time the Last time we talked, I told you that I don't

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have an actual turning point do I? Am I, how I came into

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decluttering is probably a an offshoot of being one of 189.

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Girls is one out of 44 boys who are diagnosed with some sort of

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autism spectrum. And yes, yeah, and you can relate to that you

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because

Saylor Cooper: 00:10:29

I honestly, I, especially lately, I've

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questioned whether if I've always been on a on a spectrum,

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a high end, but I, I just never knew it's always been there. I

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just never knew who I was. And, you know, I don't think like I

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am, because like, I am very social and I do manage social

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situations are pretty well, if anything, it's just ADHD,

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because like, I'm working with another great friend of mine,

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his name's blind, who's on the autism spectrum. But of course,

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he didn't know until after his seven year old son was

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diagnosed. And he said, Your autism ADHD some of its features

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can overlap, and they have a lot in common. And so, yeah, yeah.

Saylor Cooper: 00:11:22

So I mean, if you don't mind me asking, What has said mod

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concern k, that you may be on a spectrum, other than like the

Saylor Cooper: 00:11:32

ADHD portion? Like, like, do you not do well, socially? Do you

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have social anxiety? Or just what is it? Um,

Kitti Andrews: 00:11:41

there's sensitivity to like being in a

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room full of how do I say this? Some social and takeI sometimes

Kitti Andrews: 00:11:54

it can be crippling social anxiety. We're letting it all

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hang out here. Sometimes, but again, I've managed that by

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seeing by recognising when I'm starting to get anxious and

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taking steps, like to almost literal steps to remove myself

Kitti Andrews: 00:12:17

for a few minutes. Yeah, calm down, get a grip on Get a grip

Kitti Andrews: 00:12:22

and then come back to the social situation. For example, when we

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were in Dallas, that kind of stuff, can those you know,

Kitti Andrews: 00:12:29

multiple conferences and things like that that can get? It can

Kitti Andrews: 00:12:33

be a little it can be overly sensory? Overwhelming? Yeah. And

Kitti Andrews: 00:12:41

so that, but with decluttering, the broom decluttering my own

Kitti Andrews: 00:12:47

brain, as it were, and saying, all right, this is I recognise

Kitti Andrews: 00:12:53

the signs as I think I'm going to not be doing so well in a

Kitti Andrews: 00:12:59

couple of minutes. So what do I do to to heal myself? Then? All

Kitti Andrews: 00:13:05

right, well walk out of the room for a few minutes, be by myself

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for a few minutes, and then come back and everything is great.

Kitti Andrews: 00:13:13

Because if you're at one of those conferences, you can't be

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freaking out in the middle of a meeting. Right? So right, you

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just take steps to, to alleviate any system symptoms for and, for

Kitti Andrews: 00:13:29

example, in air in some airports in the States, they have a quiet

Kitti Andrews: 00:13:34

room. And I think that's absolutely wonderful. I haven't

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needed it. I visited one in I don't know which airport it was.

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But I thought, well, this is absolutely wonderful. When you

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just need to stop the world for a few minutes and regroup,

Kitti Andrews: 00:13:54

recharge your batteries, and come on back and you're going to

Kitti Andrews: 00:13:57

be fine. The key I think, is to everybody needs that. Yeah,

Kitti Andrews: 00:14:02

yeah, exactly. So it may not. If there are varying schools of

Kitti Andrews: 00:14:10

thought there wasn't the other way autism can manage as a need

Kitti Andrews: 00:14:15

to have everything structured and ordered.

Saylor Cooper: 00:14:18

Absolutely. And Matt, Have you have you found

Saylor Cooper: 00:14:22

that you struggle with that?

Kitti Andrews: 00:14:24

You haven't Yeah, since I was a kid, you know, the

Kitti Andrews: 00:14:27

pictures that they have with the little kid carefully stacking

Kitti Andrews: 00:14:31

the building blocks in that's usually showing the it's usually

Kitti Andrews: 00:14:38

a promotion for something about autism. And and that was me and

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then fast forward to my first job in an office. I was a file

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clerk and my and I got promoted to the accounting department and

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both two months later a lady where I used to file she came

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came to me and said, Would you consider coming back and working

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for us part time because we can't find anything anymore.

Kitti Andrews: 00:15:07

You're the best we ever had.

Tyler Evans: 00:15:10

Oh, man. Yeah. I was like, what?

Kitti Andrews: 00:15:15

And then moving you asked about my journey, give

Kitti Andrews: 00:15:20

the and then I was in, in working in restaurants at the

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waitressing and I was always voted the one to go in and clean

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the walk in fridge because cooks at the end of their shift. They

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just want to go for a beer. And so they just throw everything

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back into the fridge and then you can't find anything. So I

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always got voted to go and do that. And I loved that job. I

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could restore order to chaos. And and I could be by myself

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away from all of the noise of the restaurant for a little bit

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and and people appreciated what I did. They people love order.

Kitti Andrews: 00:16:06

They don't like chaos. But it's they may not know how to fix it.

Kitti Andrews: 00:16:14

So now I help people declutter via zoom, I don't go into

Kitti Andrews: 00:16:20

people's houses. And it's when you do it via zoom. It's a less

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intrusive and more focused way to get rid of years and years of

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clutter. Because even when you have, say for example, a

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professional organiser coming into your home, you feel like

Kitti Andrews: 00:16:40

you have to clean for I've been told this, you feel like you

Kitti Andrews: 00:16:43

have to clean for the cleaning lady for the organiser, I better

Kitti Andrews: 00:16:47

get organised before the organiser comes thing, right.

Kitti Andrews: 00:16:52

But if you're doing it via zoom, you can just focus on one room

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or one area of that room. And one thing, which by the way, is

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my one system. And you can get more done by doing smaller steps

Kitti Andrews: 00:17:12

as we were talking about before just doing things. Okay. Small

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steps, small accomplishment, great, the dopamine is released.

Kitti Andrews: 00:17:22

And then as Tyler said, you move on to the next thing. And the

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next thing. Whereas if you try to do too much all at once, oh

Kitti Andrews: 00:17:31

yeah. Your brain does not get trained. As you learn properly,

Kitti Andrews: 00:17:36

wouldn't you?

Saylor Cooper: 00:17:37

Rob This entrepreneurship journey like

Saylor Cooper: 00:17:40

Google Calendar has been very handy for me because I tried to

Saylor Cooper: 00:17:43

organise my week. Okay. On this day, I do this and this and this

Saylor Cooper: 00:17:50

and you know, you don't I'm saying I organise my time.

Tyler Evans: 00:17:57

Yeah, yeah. And being organised. being organised

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is a good thing. It's not a bad thing. Like you need to be in

Tyler Evans: 00:18:04

order to be productive in society. In order to succeed you

Tyler Evans: 00:18:07

must be organised you must be willing to take the take effort

Tyler Evans: 00:18:12

to be organised but problem with people autism is I believe that

Tyler Evans: 00:18:16

many of them get agitated whenever something is just

Tyler Evans: 00:18:19

slightly out of. out of whack, so to speak. Yes. In other

Tyler Evans: 00:18:25

words, unorganised even just the slightest an organisation. And

Saylor Cooper: 00:18:30

I don't do that, that often. We're at what I do,

Saylor Cooper: 00:18:33

when I do find myself doing is like, when ever something

Saylor Cooper: 00:18:38

happens, like, say, my computer freezes up, or if like, an alarm

Saylor Cooper: 00:18:45

goes off, I am triggered. And I can't stay calm during those

Saylor Cooper: 00:18:49

moments, because I know I have to learn how to do it because

Saylor Cooper: 00:18:53

panic only makes things worse. Even Oh, yeah, I stay calm.

Saylor Cooper: 00:18:59

Absolutely. Now that you're gonna be rescued, you know? Oh,

Saylor Cooper: 00:19:03

yeah.

Kitti Andrews: 00:19:04

And you've taught yourself to do that you've

Kitti Andrews: 00:19:06

taught yourself

Saylor Cooper: 00:19:07

I'm still teaching myself. Oh, yeah.

Tyler Evans: 00:19:10

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's some skills I

Tyler Evans: 00:19:14

taught myself. I taught myself how to cut my own nails, and I

Tyler Evans: 00:19:17

don't even see.

Kitti Andrews: 00:19:21

God bless you.

Tyler Evans: 00:19:24

I mean, you gotta get it done. You just got to be

Tyler Evans: 00:19:27

very careful. You know, to not, you know, it's not stab yourself

Tyler Evans: 00:19:33

or whatever. Yeah.

Saylor Cooper: 00:19:35

But no, we're all making sense on this podcast. I

Saylor Cooper: 00:19:39

feel like we're all in a synchronous journey. Together,

Saylor Cooper: 00:19:44

Katie. And no words can express how much I admire you. You

Saylor Cooper: 00:19:52

choose Show us that you're kidding.

Kitti Andrews: 00:19:56

So sweet. Thank you. I mean having heard having

Kitti Andrews: 00:20:03

had the honour of being with with with both of you in Dallas?

Kitti Andrews: 00:20:08

I was for those few days I was really blown away at just how

Kitti Andrews: 00:20:17

how smoothly you guys handled? handled everything like it's it

Kitti Andrews: 00:20:23

we sighted people do not. We can't we have no way of really

Kitti Andrews: 00:20:31

even if we walked around with blindfold you can take the

Kitti Andrews: 00:20:37

blindfold off if we if we need to. But to be able to develop

Kitti Andrews: 00:20:43

this the skills and just make it look like just make it not make

Kitti Andrews: 00:20:52

it look like make it complete completely completely normal.

Kitti Andrews: 00:20:56

Then it wow is I have the greatest admiration for for both

Kitti Andrews: 00:21:03

of you. And that's why I was really excited Excel here. I

Kitti Andrews: 00:21:07

mean, Tyler, Tyler and I spent a lot of time talking and good

Kitti Andrews: 00:21:14

talks and Wow.

Saylor Cooper: 00:21:17

Really bad thing as speakers playoffs live as I

Saylor Cooper: 00:21:19

did get sick, unfortunately.

Tyler Evans: 00:21:21

Yeah, he was sick. Really?

Saylor Cooper: 00:21:25

I don't I don't Yeah. Yeah. Like the second day,

Saylor Cooper: 00:21:28

I came out, I came down with like a cold and yeah, I made it.

Tyler Evans: 00:21:36

Oh, yeah, a couple weeks later, I think I had

Tyler Evans: 00:21:38

something like kill his cold. But it was not that bad. It was

Tyler Evans: 00:21:41

just, it only lasted a couple of days. And that was

Saylor Cooper: 00:21:44

that and will make you memories together.

Saylor Cooper: 00:21:48

Yeah. So um, if you don't have anything else you want to share

Saylor Cooper: 00:21:53

the past? You know? What? So what, what successes are you

Saylor Cooper: 00:22:02

proud of most? And what are your future goals? Oh, good

Kitti Andrews: 00:22:09

heavens, that that is a very open ended

Kitti Andrews: 00:22:12

question. I'm glad you asked it. Before I answered that, I think

Kitti Andrews: 00:22:18

it's important for your audience to know that no matter what is

Kitti Andrews: 00:22:26

happening in your life right now, what, what kind of mental

Kitti Andrews: 00:22:31

clutter or physical clutter but whatever is happening, it didn't

Kitti Andrews: 00:22:35

accumulate overnight, and it's not going to go away overnight.

Kitti Andrews: 00:22:40

So you just need to be patient with yourself and take it one

Kitti Andrews: 00:22:46

step at a time. Which good what successes am I most proud of?

Kitti Andrews: 00:22:51

That's hard to say because I've been on the cover of and

Kitti Andrews: 00:22:55

contributed to. I have contributed to and being on the

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cover this year of the Los Angeles Tribune and USA Today.

Kitti Andrews: 00:23:09

I've spoken at Harvard, I've spoken at Stanford, it's been a

Kitti Andrews: 00:23:12

big year. Am I but hold that thought, wow. Am I proud of

Kitti Andrews: 00:23:19

that? Absolutely. I am. But if you if you say my proudest

Kitti Andrews: 00:23:25

proudest of that, I'm not sure. Because I spoke to two ladies.

Kitti Andrews: 00:23:33

One was a possible she was inquiring about being a client.

Kitti Andrews: 00:23:39

And this wasn't the right financial time for her. And then

Kitti Andrews: 00:23:43

even as recently as let's hold off to stick with me here. I was

Kitti Andrews: 00:23:50

on a podcast with one of our fellow Playhouse members, Lee

Kitti Andrews: 00:23:55

Smith, and she a lady was was watching. And she was telling us

Kitti Andrews: 00:24:03

about her struggle. She she's in England, and she is a caregiver

Kitti Andrews: 00:24:08

to her husband who is disabled. And you got to know that that's

Kitti Andrews: 00:24:13

not an easy, easy job. Right? And this other lady from from

Kitti Andrews: 00:24:20

the discovery call, she was having a bit of a hard time of a

Kitti Andrews: 00:24:24

two. And they both left those calls saying thank you. You've

Kitti Andrews: 00:24:29

been very helpful. You've eased my mind about some about things.

Kitti Andrews: 00:24:34

So I asked the two of you a poll and there's no real answer here.

Kitti Andrews: 00:24:41

I will, we can say it basically to the universe to the audience.

Kitti Andrews: 00:24:45

Anybody who listens to this podcast? What is something that

Kitti Andrews: 00:24:49

you should be proudest of? I'm waxing philosophical here, and I

Kitti Andrews: 00:24:53

know I am. But this I've never spoken on this subject before.

Kitti Andrews: 00:24:59

So And what should you be proud of stuff the actual

Kitti Andrews: 00:25:03

accomplishments? Or how you helped somebody? Wow. I

Saylor Cooper: 00:25:12

suppose that's awesome. Yeah, because we're

Saylor Cooper: 00:25:16

helping others too. And kaigi you mean Tyler can fit like a

Saylor Cooper: 00:25:22

glove? Because we're doing very similar work. Oh yeah. If you

Saylor Cooper: 00:25:27

can help us, that'd be great. Me and Tyler, we've been trying to

Saylor Cooper: 00:25:30

host the blissful life mastermind, actually, we're in

Saylor Cooper: 00:25:35

the process of renaming it, we may call it the blissful life

Saylor Cooper: 00:25:38

community. And province getting good followers. We haven't had

Saylor Cooper: 00:25:46

good followers, because the aim of this is to, we're not going

Saylor Cooper: 00:25:51

to teach anything, but we're going to facilitate what we're

Saylor Cooper: 00:25:54

all gonna come together in a mastermind, and just teach

Saylor Cooper: 00:25:59

people how even in difficult times, you can live a life of

Saylor Cooper: 00:26:05

bliss reign supreme. And like, for instance, you can teach

Saylor Cooper: 00:26:11

people how to declutter stuff. And when people can teach people

Saylor Cooper: 00:26:16

how to live with, you know, a mental health condition physical

Saylor Cooper: 00:26:21

condition, we can all mastermind it together. Oh, yeah. And so

Saylor Cooper: 00:26:26

don't get me wrong. This has been trial and error like Tyler,

Saylor Cooper: 00:26:30

we've been experimenting with different stuff. We will get

Saylor Cooper: 00:26:33

there. We have many more stuff that's coming up. We're gonna be

Saylor Cooper: 00:26:37

working with a nonprofit as well. That kitty, any way that

Saylor Cooper: 00:26:42

you can help us on this journey we can help each other. And for

Saylor Cooper: 00:26:50

those y'all who listen, opt in to the hope without sight to

Saylor Cooper: 00:26:54

blissful life mini course you should text bliss to

Saylor Cooper: 00:26:59

832-481-6806. Again, that is bliss. Bliss, bliss, bliss,

Saylor Cooper: 00:27:07

bliss, blessed, blessed, blessed this world. I cannot get enough

Saylor Cooper: 00:27:10

up to 8816806 KB What do you think we are blessed in

Saylor Cooper: 00:27:17

Thailand? What you think of when you hear that word? So come on

Saylor Cooper: 00:27:20

your bliss, girl. Yeah. Come on, y'all. That's, that's us. Bliss

Saylor Cooper: 00:27:26

deliciously together. Yeah.

Tyler Evans: 00:27:29

Well, yeah. Being blissful means being satisfied

Tyler Evans: 00:27:32

with what you're doing in life being compared. Yeah. Your life.

Tyler Evans: 00:27:39

You know, it's interesting. I am a believer. You know, a lot of

Tyler Evans: 00:27:48

people know what that is being a Christian. And I believe that in

Tyler Evans: 00:27:52

heaven, we're going to experience bliss like never

Tyler Evans: 00:27:54

before. Yeah. And bliss, here on Earth is great. But the bliss

Tyler Evans: 00:28:01

that heaven offers is going to be way more than we've ever

Tyler Evans: 00:28:06

faced, because, well, Jesus is going to be there. And that's

Tyler Evans: 00:28:11

all that's the Ultimate Bliss. We're not

Saylor Cooper: 00:28:14

going to have we're not going to go yet. I'm

Saylor Cooper: 00:28:17

not letting you know.

Tyler Evans: 00:28:18

Not yet. Well, how about this? You're ready

Tyler Evans: 00:28:21

spiritually, though? Just in case, you know.

Saylor Cooper: 00:28:25

Yeah, just in case that we have. I'm having a

Saylor Cooper: 00:28:29

phone down here you? Oh, yeah.

Tyler Evans: 00:28:31

I know. But we're gonna have a banner up there. So

Saylor Cooper: 00:28:34

yeah, let's toss it to you. Where you make a

Saylor Cooper: 00:28:37

bliss,

Kitti Andrews: 00:28:39

I would really, really agree with with Tyler as

Kitti Andrews: 00:28:44

to being satisfied with, with what you're with whatever with

Kitti Andrews: 00:28:50

accomplishing what it is that you want to do. Now, whether

Kitti Andrews: 00:28:54

that's helping people or, or being in publications or that I

Kitti Andrews: 00:29:01

think the best thing, even if you're I don't know, you could

Kitti Andrews: 00:29:06

be in a in a minimum wage job of some sort. You can be very happy

Kitti Andrews: 00:29:12

in that minimum wage shall be here. I'll give you a really,

Kitti Andrews: 00:29:15

really good example that that Darren Hardy, as has put on on

Kitti Andrews: 00:29:22

one of his he's is used as frequently. The the, the example

Kitti Andrews: 00:29:28

is of interest, hospital workers. And there actually was

Kitti Andrews: 00:29:35

a survey somebody did a survey of hospital workers and a

Kitti Andrews: 00:29:42

percentage I'm sorry, I don't know the percentage. Were the

Kitti Andrews: 00:29:46

well, what do you think of your job? Well, it's, it's okay. It's

Kitti Andrews: 00:29:51

a it's a job. And until I get something else, but the people

Kitti Andrews: 00:29:58

who rated the highest that then there were other people who

Kitti Andrews: 00:30:01

said, I love my job. I don't want to do anything else. I

Kitti Andrews: 00:30:05

really, really love my job. And the what did they get out of

Kitti Andrews: 00:30:10

their job? They were hot hospital cleaners. That's what

Kitti Andrews: 00:30:13

it is sorry, I left out that word cleaners. They were

Kitti Andrews: 00:30:16

hospital cleaners. So that can be a pretty boring mundane job.

Kitti Andrews: 00:30:19

Yes. Get? Yeah. But how they got bliss, from their job was they

Kitti Andrews: 00:30:29

would just stop and talk to the hospital patients for a minute

Kitti Andrews: 00:30:33

or two, make them make them smile. What else did they get

Kitti Andrews: 00:30:37

out of their job, they would say that, well, I'm making a healthy

Kitti Andrews: 00:30:41

environment. So patients will will get better faster. There,

Kitti Andrews: 00:30:45

their entire focus was as opposed to the paycheck was

Kitti Andrews: 00:30:50

service. Now, I, my father's side of the family I've I

Kitti Andrews: 00:30:58

haven't been as close to and I didn't know until a few years

Kitti Andrews: 00:31:03

ago, that she knew she worked in hospitals. But I didn't know

Kitti Andrews: 00:31:08

that she was a cleaner. And she told me this exact thing is she

Kitti Andrews: 00:31:13

used to love to she loved her job. I think she worked at it

Kitti Andrews: 00:31:18

for 25 years, a hospital cleaner, I saw my aunt. And I

Kitti Andrews: 00:31:23

thought, Oh, that's good, because she's well educated. But

Kitti Andrews: 00:31:26

she chose this job because she loved it because she could make

Kitti Andrews: 00:31:30

the patient's smile, she felt that she was making a

Kitti Andrews: 00:31:34

difference. And at the end of the day, there's your bliss for

Kitti Andrews: 00:31:40

you. What do you think?

Saylor Cooper: 00:31:42

Makes sense. You have to love what you do to have

Saylor Cooper: 00:31:47

true bliss. And even if it's not what you like, if you're doing

Saylor Cooper: 00:31:53

it to have a paycheck. Try and find even the smallest amount of

Saylor Cooper: 00:31:58

bliss you can find. Yeah, absolutely. And so did you and

Saylor Cooper: 00:32:03

everyone make sure you did talk about your future goals? Right?

Tyler Evans: 00:32:06

And no, no, yeah, yeah.

Kitti Andrews: 00:32:10

future goals are to reach many, many more people

Kitti Andrews: 00:32:17

via public and you know, public speaking like what we're doing

Kitti Andrews: 00:32:21

here, who knows how many people we are, we are reaching or will

Kitti Andrews: 00:32:27

reach as, as people get older, learn, learn more about who

Kitti Andrews: 00:32:32

knows, we don't know. reach more people help more people may I

Kitti Andrews: 00:32:39

may or may not continue with the actual coaching. I would like to

Kitti Andrews: 00:32:43

explore avenues of inspiration. That that will really Okay, here

Kitti Andrews: 00:32:51

it is. If I had a nickel for every time that somebody has

Kitti Andrews: 00:32:54

said to me thank you get even Ginny. Okay, there are listeners

Kitti Andrews: 00:32:58

don't need to know who Ginny is. But she says she posted in my

Kitti Andrews: 00:33:03

Facebook group that declutter the brain Facebook group she

Kitti Andrews: 00:33:06

posted. Thank you for your inspiration. This is just two

Kitti Andrews: 00:33:10

weeks ago, so it's fresh in my brain. Thank you for your

Kitti Andrews: 00:33:15

inspiration. Thanks to you, my husband and I cleared out our

Kitti Andrews: 00:33:21

garage. It took us two days. But we did it. And thank you. Well,

Kitti Andrews: 00:33:27

how did you that that's beyond payment, I can inspire people

Kitti Andrews: 00:33:31

without even having to be across the virtual screen. So if I can

Kitti Andrews: 00:33:36

do that, and with via paid speaking engagements, paid

Kitti Andrews: 00:33:40

murder, magazine articles, then that's great. That's in the

Kitti Andrews: 00:33:44

future. But for now, it's one how many? One and day at a time,

Saylor Cooper: 00:33:54

one day, I'm doing that too. We're trying to

Saylor Cooper: 00:33:56

host a life coach events. I'm working with a mental health

Saylor Cooper: 00:33:59

comedian Frank King. We're working together until we get my

Saylor Cooper: 00:34:03

speaking career the way it needs to be your choice. We say we

Saylor Cooper: 00:34:07

both die tried. Yeah.

Kitti Andrews: 00:34:12

Right with you, Frank is awesome. Frank is

Kitti Andrews: 00:34:15

awesome. And I'm probably going to be following in your

Kitti Andrews: 00:34:19

footsteps. And he and I have had a conversation. So yeah, yeah,

Kitti Andrews: 00:34:24

he's awesome.

Saylor Cooper: 00:34:25

I'm working with Michelle Abraham. And so it's

Saylor Cooper: 00:34:28

all a team together. And of course, it's all thanks to Kevin

Saylor Cooper: 00:34:32

Copan Scott Irwin, our wonderful friends who got us started you

Saylor Cooper: 00:34:37

know, and so now we're non stop. We're just going to keep going

Saylor Cooper: 00:34:41

to week one. So yeah, if you if I don't think I have anything

Saylor Cooper: 00:34:46

else for you. If you have nothing else for us. Should you

Saylor Cooper: 00:34:51

say we wrap up?

Kitti Andrews: 00:34:53

Oh, that I have. I have a special gift for your

Kitti Andrews: 00:34:57

for your audience. If you like Fair, yes, my assistant would

Kitti Andrews: 00:35:02

have sent it to you.

Saylor Cooper: 00:35:03

Send me your media sheet, and your bio shows

Saylor Cooper: 00:35:06

it all I know,

Kitti Andrews: 00:35:08

it is indeed. And what it is, is I'm sure you'll

Kitti Andrews: 00:35:12

put it in the show notes. It's, and it's easy for somebody to

Kitti Andrews: 00:35:16

type in and Google it anyway, is seven. My company name again is

Kitti Andrews: 00:35:22

declutter their brain. They go, if they go there, they can

Kitti Andrews: 00:35:26

download my seven easy steps to conquer their physical and

Kitti Andrews: 00:35:30

mental clutter. It's an evergreen publication, and it's

Kitti Andrews: 00:35:36

just basically gives you steps to declutter and decluttering

Kitti Andrews: 00:35:43

your your brain and asunder the acronym of control. So notice,

Kitti Andrews: 00:35:49

it's all based on small simple steps that anyone from the age

Kitti Andrews: 00:35:54

of four to 84 can follow to keep their lives simple, because in

Kitti Andrews: 00:36:02

today's busy life, wouldn't you agree, both of you that we need

Kitti Andrews: 00:36:08

to simplify?

Saylor Cooper: 00:36:12

Absolutely, we do. Everybody does to some

Saylor Cooper: 00:36:14

degree.

Tyler Evans: 00:36:14

Oh, yeah. Yep. Nice. Yeah.

Kitti Andrews: 00:36:17

Well, that's, that's how I got boys.

Saylor Cooper: 00:36:19

Yeah. And so if nothing else, Tyler, can you

Saylor Cooper: 00:36:24

take us into our customary ending question, please.

Tyler Evans: 00:36:30

So what do you say to people who feel they have no

Tyler Evans: 00:36:32

hope?

Saylor Cooper: 00:36:33

And you're struggling in life and don't see

Saylor Cooper: 00:36:35

a way out?

Kitti Andrews: 00:36:39

Are you asking me?

Saylor Cooper: 00:36:40

Yeah, I'm asking. Yes. Can you Yeah. Okay.

Kitti Andrews: 00:36:47

Your problems did not accumulate overnight. And I

Kitti Andrews: 00:36:50

said something like this earlier, but I'm gonna say it

Kitti Andrews: 00:36:53

again in a bit of a different way. What you're experiencing

Kitti Andrews: 00:36:57

now, did not happen overnight. It's a combination of things.

Kitti Andrews: 00:37:04

It's not going to go away overnight. Go easy on yourself.

Kitti Andrews: 00:37:09

Have patience, and learn, or get someone to help you to learn to

Kitti Andrews: 00:37:18

take things one step at a time to make your life easier, and

Kitti Andrews: 00:37:22

less stressful.

Saylor Cooper: 00:37:25

Wow, sad because I've been experiencing that as

Saylor Cooper: 00:37:28

well. And once I stopped this recording, Kelly, if if you have

Saylor Cooper: 00:37:32

time to stay a few more minutes, I just want to tell you about

Saylor Cooper: 00:37:35

how this relates to me. But yeah, well said Kitti.

Kitti Andrews: 00:37:40

Thank you. Thank you. And thank you for having

Kitti Andrews: 00:37:42

me. Both of you. I appreciate very much.

Saylor Cooper: 00:37:46

Well, everybody please give it up for Kitti and

Saylor Cooper: 00:37:50

us on help without side episode. 32 So, stay blessed. It's

Tyler Evans: 00:38:00

a blessed episode. 41. But yeah,

Saylor Cooper: 00:38:03

Episode Four you want I'm sorry? Yeah, Episode

Saylor Cooper: 00:38:05

41. Everybody stayed the last and live a life where bliss

Saylor Cooper: 00:38:09

reigns supreme. Till then. See you