Surviving to Becoming: Is this all there is?

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Rev. Rose Hope: On today's show, we have Janelle karst. Janelle is a corporate marketing executive, certified executive coach, professional facilitator, AI, mentor and author of the badass planner. She works with high performing leaders and teams through one to one coaching and her signature program, bold as well as workshops that help people reclaim time, energy and white space using practical tools and AI, she identifies as an and person thriving on strategy, structure, discipline and the belief that planning is a superpower and equally trusting the woo her morning mental dojo, breath work, yoga, Nidra, journaling, meditation and gut instinct, because the real magic happens when logic meets full body tingles. She lives on Vancouver Island with the love of her life, their 10 year old daughter, boujee, and their sheep, a doodle, Stella. She's the happiest when she's hiking in the forest or along the ocean with a strong coffee, real pre required and a white space weekend on the calendar. Oh, and she's a total badass with no inside voice, hang around long enough and you'll be making bold moves of your own. Please welcome our bold guest, Janell, to the show.

Hi everybody. Welcome back. You have learned about our beautiful guest. Today, Janelle is in the house. Hi Janelle.

So happy to be here.

Rev. Rose Hope: I was just saying before we started hitting the record button there, that, you know, I just light up when I'm with you, like you have this beautiful, beautiful light to you, and then I feel this resonance inside of my being, and I just want to smile. And you and I didn't meet that long ago. Was only about a month ago, at an event with Ali stone, inspire and awaken. And immediately it was love at first sight. I was like, Who is this human being? And I need to know her, and I am so excited to spend this time getting to know you even more today. So Janelle, why don't you start us off? Because you you have been through some stuff, and you've moved some mountains, and I want to understand, and I want the audience to understand, you know, what you've been through that has really empowered you to come to the place you are today. So would you fill us in on the story of Janelle?

Well, I was born on a spring day before we get into the story, I just want to comment on what you said about when you meet someone and your souls are like, Oh, hello. Remember me. We've known each other many times before. I think, yeah, I mean, we've meant to be together forever from this point forward, I don't know. And the fact that in even saying those words is like, okay, Janelle Beth and little

Rev. Rose Hope: Woo, oh, we're all woo here. So now I bold

to feel like I'm in the right place, but I just want to say that I saw you from across the room wearing your gold and I was like, this is a human that I just need to be around. And I remember walking around the corner where you were standing at your booth, and my whole body just went in full shivers, and I almost ran away. I was like, Whoa, but I just couldn't help it. And so I just want to say your magnetism is exactly what I needed in my life. And I'm sure that I'm not the only person that's felt that. So they humor. Beat you.

Rev. Rose Hope: Wow, wow, thank you. I felt that through my whole being. Again, that's like multiple times since we even hopped on this call already. And, you know, coincidentally, I'm wearing my gold today. And then I did not play on that, by the way, I do have other clothes, Janell, I promise other clothes.

You know, old business professor in business school, and he said to me, Janelle, gold attracts gold. And girl, you are gold. And I thought, ooh, this guy's a little creepy when he was bright, gold does attract gold. So here,

Rev. Rose Hope: yes, and here we are. Thank you for taking a minute to share that. I so appreciate it. Okay, now, tell us your story.

Okay, so I was actually born on a May Day, May 1 and and I would say why I'm telling you about this part is because it is really important as to why I am the way that I am. So I was actually raised in a religious cult, and it was something that impacted me forever. It's part of my origin story, yeah, and this, and I'll skip the details. I'm not going to go through it all, but basically. One defining moment of my life happened when I was 11, and it was when I was asked to leave this religious cult, thank goodness, and cut off from everyone that I knew at the time, including never having contact with my mother from that point forward again. And I remember very, very clearly being on being on the steps of a fourplex in a small town in northern Alberta, and had all my belongings in a garbage bag waiting for my dad to come and pick me up, who lived the town away. And I will never forget that moment. And it was that moment that you know, really shifted me. I can't trust people that you're supposed to that's supposed to love you and take care of you, religion, spirituality, all that stuff is garbage, and it's, you know, terrible, and also you need to survive, and the only one that's coming to save you is you. And so when I talk about like, why in the way that I am, I couldn't tell that story without telling that part of it, because there's no way had that not happened to me, I would not be the person I am today, right? The other thing that happened is that, even though my dad did his best, and we love our parents and all the things, I was on my own since my 15th birthday, from that point forward, and so a lifetime of, you know, I'm 45 now. That's a lot of years on your own. And so with that comes this deep sense of survival, resilience, resourcefulness, and all the stories that come in between. So I'll skip the giant part that was the life that is, but I will just say I went down every wrong path. There was, you know, ended up in

jail. I found out with boy universe I like, did all the things to try and like, find my place in the world. Where did I belong? And I always had this deep belief inside, and I still do, that I was meant for something greater. I didn't know what it was, but I just knew that this lifestyle I was living, although I could have been the gangster of the whole world, if I went down that path and continued, I could have ruled the world in the underground market, no problem. But it wasn't for me. It wasn't my calling. And I'm so glad that after quite a few years, I decided to, you know, shed that and go into the unknown, which is a life that I had no friends, I had no connections with, I had no business being part of. And, you know, talk about the hardship of meeting new people and trying to change your life and being like, Hi, I'm Janelle. Let me tell Well, yeah, probably about myself. It's like, oh, you kind of touch the water

Rev. Rose Hope: you guys, shouldn't they? Yeah. Oh my god, we're going to edit this, you know, yeah,

your whole Why is edit your whole being, yeah, right. Accepted, yes. How could they even understand.

Right? Oh, yeah, I've played that story and I've edited myself a good chunk of my life. So I can so relate to that. Janelle, I'm curious to know, because you said, like, at some point you just made a decision to get out of that, those quote, unquote wrong paths. Was there something that happened, or was there a moment where you just felt that nudge from spirit, or, like, what was that that redirected you? Because, you know, I think so many of us kind of do go down these wrong paths. And you know, either we have some sort of aha moment or something happens for us that makes us go, oh, shit, I'm I need to redirect.

Hmm. Well, yeah, I there's a couple things that immediately my full body goes like, oh, I don't tell that story. So maybe I'll just tell in honor of my spirit, we say, maybe edit this a little bit. But I found myself around 21 in a bathroom, looking in the mirror, doing something that I wasn't too proud of, and realizing and looked my Oh, my God, this is crazy, because my next story is the same thing, and looked at myself in my eyes. My eyes were black, and I have beautiful blue eyes.

Rev. Rose Hope: beautiful blue eyes.

I was fucking dead inside. And it was really interesting, because, like many women out there, I always thought I was, you know, too heavy, or too this or too that. I always had great confidence, but I was like, if I only was this, I would be happy. And I looked in the mirror, and physically, I was that embodiment of what I'd always dreamed. And I was dead inside, the habits that I had, the path that I was leading, the people in the living room, outside of the bathroom. I was like, What are you doing here? And I also had a flash of my six other siblings. I'm the oldest of seven, and while we didn't have a close relationship, I was the oldest. And like, you know, I felt like this sense of responsibility, like, if I could turn it around, and if I could have a life worse, you know, feeling proud. Edible, then maybe I could be modeled to my brothers and sisters. Maybe I could be this thing that, you know, our family is pretty messed up. Maybe this could be something better. So I didn't think about at the depth, but later, I realized that there was that promise of being better for something more that kind of pulled at me, even though I had no real reason to think that they would even want to hang out with me or be part of my life, but I was like, maybe there's something here. I can have a sense of belonging with my actual blood family.

Rev. Rose Hope: Wow, Ooh, I got shivers several times as you were sharing that. And I thank you so much for being brave, you know, and getting that out. Because I think, you know, I've said this before in calls like this, you know, our stories are medicine. They remind us that we're all human and we're all together, and we've all done some effed up stuff, you know. And I think many of us, again, edit all of that out because we're afraid that if we express that, then we're going to be judged and we're going to be condemned. But in fact, what we witness when we do express that is the most loving, graceful embrace. And I hope that you feel embraced today.

I do, and I think that I will just finish that story by saying, And there appeared an angel, and that I was like, Maybe I'm not so alone. Maybe I don't have to do this on my own. And it was a random person that I met when I was headshaking across Canada. And yes, that's another story. For two years, and I was in Whistler, and this person quite a bit older than me, an older male. And, you know, I was obviously like, okay. And he truly was this person who was like, you weren't meant for this life. You're meant for something else. And he actually helped me move to the island, which I still live, and he helped me enroll and finish my high school, and that's where I had, oh, wow, that was the hardest thing. I mean, imagine I was like 21 living in residence with 17 year olds that have never even left their house for the weekend, right? I've lived the life of like 50 people by this and of course, your energetic vibe is still attracting those types of people, even though they'd never met you. I'd go down the street and a Hurley would roll by, or something would happen, and they'd be waving at me. I'd be like, No, I'm focus. I'm here to make Yeah, don't distract me. I'm on a plan. No.

Like, how do I reign in this magnet? Like, I'm trying to direct you the wrong people. So, but he saved my life, like he truly saw something in me that I knew was there, but I just needed that opportunity, and I truly shifted from that point on. It absolutely was not easy, but there is where I started to see that there was actually people that lived during the day, not just the night, and that they were bad bulls, and they had dreams and they were going after them. So that is the other piece I wanted to say it was I had some help.

Rev. Rose Hope: Yeah, yeah, right. And I think that's something that we forget, is we need help. We are in this together, you know? And goes back to Ubuntu, which I've said on this show before, Ubuntu, I am, because we are. I wouldn't be doing this podcast if Danelle wasn't with me, you know. And so it's like reminding us that, like there are other human beings that deeply, genuinely want to express love and take care of one another. And I think that's what that comes back to, and that's what this earth angel that you had in your life, to me, that was representative of the fact that all the things you said, like, you couldn't trust people, and you know, all those things that had been ingrained in you from your young childhood, this human showed up and proved that all wrong in a way. Like, that's what came to my mind. Is like, Ah, he's the one to show her that there are good people that she can trust, people that she can, you know, pursue her dreams. Is he still kicking around?

You know, he was. They say that you meet people for a reason a season or lifetime. Yeah, and he was the reason. Yeah, and he came in and when it appeared I had taken, you know, flights, yeah, I never heard from him again.

Rev. Rose Hope: You know, I have a similar story, and it was a man who came into my life. I used to work at a industrial site as an EMT. So my first career was in EMS, and so as an EMT, so I would sometimes cover some of the security when they had to go on their brakes. And so I was on this particular security booth that I never was at before, like not usually at, and this guy comes in in a truck, and he's got his pass and everything, and he starts chatting, and he is blowing my mind. He's behind me things. And this is, like, I'm 19, I think at this age, at that time. And I am like, he's telling me things that are like things I know, but things like that we don't talk out here about. And this is coming from some dude at a plant, and he's talking about Jesus, and he's talking about seeing so much more. And he's like, you see more than most people. Like, he was giving me a psychic intuitive reading, basically. And I was mind blown. And so this guy goes through, we have this beautiful chat, like, half an hour long at like, one in the morning, and he goes off to work and whatever, I kind of forget about it. And I asked about him later, like, I'm asking people, like, about this guy on the side, or whatever, and they're like, Who are you talking about? Like that, he doesn't work here. There's nobody. There's nobody by that name here. So, like, we want, we're, I could never track him down, right? Isn't that something? So anyway, I see you even real. I don't know, right? But I feel like, you know? I feel like it was like Jesus had come to me in the form of this worker, you know. And so, again, we can make up all sorts of stories about it, but the point being is that it touched me and it moved me, and that was like the first major spiritual interaction that I had that was tangible for me, right? And so that was a catalyst for me, too, in a lot of ways, it really started to open me up. And that was a 19 years old. So, yeah, so you know, not unlike you, you

know, we had these earth angels that were positioned in our lives to help us, to redirect us and guide us. And I think that's why it's so important that we express through podcasts or sharing on stages and writing and all of the things, because we forget that we can potentially be those Earth Angels for other people too.

I love that brain and that it's the vortex,

Rev. Rose Hope: yeah, and once you're in the vortex, we know who magic can happen, right? I did, right, yeah, yeah, I love that. So, so tell me after that. You know, obviously you finished school, you're on the island. Things are now redirected. What happens then?

Well, my mom passed away from a curable form of cancer that she chose to die. And I think that that was another kind of anchor point for me, not that we had been together, I thought, and had a mom my whole life, but losing her when I was 21 she was only 39 like that that, you know, really kind of like shook me. And I also, you know, kind of flew back to try and, you know, see if we could make amends, like, Surely she would want to, you know, talk to her firstborn and, and, yeah, didn't. And that, you know, kind of shook me, because I was like, here I am a better human. I changed. I, you know, I'm getting, like, I had so much pride in the changes I'd made. Yeah, and still wasn't good enough. Still wasn't, you know, yes, my my dear daughter, I love you. Like I didn't get those moments. And I would say that it didn't surprise me, but it was another kind of piece of the puzzle where I was like, That's okay. I'm gonna go out and I'm going to continue on this path, because I can create my future here. And I love, you know, like there was just that sense of closure. And I remember when she passed, I would walk all the way down, like I immediately quit drinking and all sorts of things, like I needed to deal with it sober. Not that I'm a big drinker, but I just didn't have any taste for even anything. And I would walk every single day down to Dallas Road, which is about a 15 or 20 minute walk from there I lived. And I would sit at the ocean for as long as it took, and then I would just feel like it's time to get up, and I would walk back, wow. And I did that for probably six months, wow. And I will just say that being that's where I started to feel something even bigger to me, and I realized that my soul is meant to be at the ocean, and especially Victoria, there's a there's a vibe, there's a vortex, something here that I'm either connected with deeply, or I'd have been called back to you, if that means,

Rev. Rose Hope: yep, of course it does.

So there's that I'm living where I need to be. My soul is like, thank you. I've finished business school, this is where I would say my era of human doing really came into play, right? So I am the best at everything that I do. There is nothing that I'm not slain

Rev. Rose Hope: Oh achiever Janelle, not surprised

by give me a task and like, I will be at the top every single time business school, top of my class started the businesses, did the things, and I love that about myself. I just, like, felt so powerful. I was productive. I was running retreats. I was hanging out with people talking about personal development. I was all. In the deep end, I was like, girl. And for years, this is what I did, and I'm lit up just talking about it, because that was an error of my life where I finally was like, This is who I be. Yeah. Look at all the amazing, you know, degrees on my wall, this coaching certifications. Look at all the buckets and the stars I'm getting. Look at the corporate ladder I'm climbing and oh, look at the amazing love of my life that I attracted and Mary. Look at the beautiful, healthy, amazing unicorn of a daughter that we have our frickin designer sheep or doodle. Look at my life. Wow, all the buckets. Wow. And so, so, so grateful for that, right?

Rev. Rose Hope: Isn't it amazing? You know, I often tell people like, we don't have to walk through hell to get to heaven, but it is a shortest route there. Yeah. And does that make sense? Like? Because to me, it's like, if I'm willing to go to the depth of suffering and to feel all the feelings and to hold the space for all of this shit and all of this stuff and trauma and whatever, if I'm willing to really dig in, it is gonna feel intense and it is gonna feel like a bit of hell. But if I'm willing to go to those depths, yeah, I can get to heaven in a snap of a finger.

Well, and yes, I kind of hide, like real talk. I really find it challenging to relate to people that haven't been through hell. Yeah, and it's nothing to knock them, because thank God. Like, I don't want everyone to have this story and be like, Oh, I get it. I don't want anyone to ever say, oh, I can relate exactly to your story. I mean real creations. But it is one of those things where I can see immediately, I have this sense when I meet someone of the depths that they've had to go to in their life and what that's created in terms of character, and I feel the connection in within 30 seconds, like I am not the type of person that has a huge, huge group of friends. They're very small. And it's so deep because of that reason, right?

Rev. Rose Hope: yes, I love that. I love that. I really value how you speak about, you know this healing piece with your mom and going to the ocean every day, it's just part of it, until you felt grounded, anchored, whatever you needed to feel. And I just think that's such a beautiful way to process and I think that sometimes we struggle to process grief, or we don't know how to place it. And even though you might have not felt like you had her as a mother. You had to deal with a lot of, I'm sure, abandonment, rejection, the not good enough energy. And I'm curious to know what you learned from that like I'm curious, what was your takeaway? What was the best thing you learned from your mom, or the absence of her? What do you think were the highlights,

the kind of mom that I'm gonna be, and I am,

Rev. Rose Hope: yeah, I feel that emotion in that, yeah.

But I found out I was pregnant with Hailey, and it was a girl. I remember being in that room and getting that noise with my husband's like, Oh, God, what? And I was like, This is my chance, yeah. This is my chance to be the mom that I never had, and then just to have that beautiful opportunity. I was just overcome with this emotion that this was my purpose, and I was just Yeah, and so what I learned didn't come about right away.

Rev. Rose Hope: Of course, it usually does. It's like, way later, like, Oh my God, that's what that was,

yeah, you know. And just like, every day, and I kissed my daughter, and I tell her how amazing she is every day, to the point now where I'm definitely getting the eye rolls you can attend. I'm just like, you know, I don't want to say, like, you have no idea how good you have it girl, because I don't just need to know those things, but you don't know how good you have it girl, yeah, right, yeah, right. And you will never know what it feels like to not be wholly accepted and loved. You will never need to know what it's like for someone to not accept you or love you or be with you because of a decision you made or who you were. You will never know what it's like to not have me right by yourself.

Rev. Rose Hope: I love that. And you know, what a powerful testament to the alchemist you are? Because you know, one of the hacks that I have is, if we're experiencing lack in an area, the invitation is for us to become whatever it is that we're lacking and give that to another. So for example, if I'm lacking confidence, to counter that, I boost your confidence. If I'm lacking love, I pour my love into something or someone else, right? And so you did that naturally you were lacking. Accept. And unconditional love from your mom. And so what did you do? You created a baby where you could pour unconditional love into that baby, and therefore you received the unconditional love and unmet needs that you had from your mother. How comfortable and brilliant that you did.

That just such an honor, like we I started doing two things when she was born. The it's not a dojo. That person that was worth me a doula. The doula, like, not a dojo, yeah, the doula, she actually, as part of the package, she wrote a letter to Haley when she was born that basically was like, here's the story, and you have your parents and the care they had, and here's all the feelings, and here's what happened in the 30 hours she was in labor with you. And in you know, welcome to the world, little one. And so I was so inspired by that that every year since then, I've sat down on her birthday and I've written a letter to her that I seal up I've never reread. I put them in a box and I'll give them to Hello, and she's 16.

Rev. Rose Hope: Oh, I love that idea so much. And now I wish I would have done it with my children

to start.

Rev. Rose Hope: I was just gonna say that's what I'm starting this year. Thank you for that.

Yeah, no. Thank you for letting me share and and, you know, I don't write that. Hey, this year we went on this vacation and did that. It is its story as me, my word of the year was this. This is my challenges. I witnessed this. I love that, and it's a story of me. And just like giving all of those and because I have this experience of abandonment and being on my own and losing a parent at a young age, there's part of me that's like, just in case, make sure everyone knows where these letters are. In case you're not around, she has something from you, right?

Rev. Rose Hope: Wow, that is such a beautiful treasure, and what a blessed little girl you have

when you meet her. She's been here many times.

Rev. Rose Hope: Oh yeah, oh yeah. Again, we're a total crystal child. I already can feel her. I guess

she'll be all like, Oh hey, nice to see you guys.

Rev. Rose Hope: Yeah, right. Like, Hey you, yeah, yeah. Well, I love it.

So other thing very quickly is I started doing an annual trip with her. So we just got back from the trip a couple of weeks ago, and we went up Island. And so she has, she has rules about this trip, as, of course she does. So, oh, yeah, thing that she needs king size bed, and we need to sleep together and snuggle. It needs to be at least two nights, because one is just not enough, and it needs to have a pool. Because, of course, pools every course.

Rev. Rose Hope: Oh, and one love it, oh, that's

so we print pictures and we take the room key and we put it in a little thing, and I'm just like, this is something that I have visions of her being like, you know, when she's 40, and being like, Hey, Mom, I got the plan this year. It's a surprise, and her flying off year. Like, I'm just hoping that these experiences continue to be something that we both value every year.

Rev. Rose Hope: I think this is so important, because one of the things that I really have been focusing on is giving my children experiences and wanting to create that, because that's what they bring up every year. They don't bring up, oh, remember that toy, like they forget what they got, but they remember the experiences that they're having. So that's a really powerful reminder for all of us as parents to leaning into those experiences. So okay, Janelle, let's, let's. We got a little sidetracked there, but I think it was really important meaningful. I want to just bring us back to the work that you do as as a leader, as a mentor, and talk about what you find is kind of the biggest challenge that your clients have, and then what are the main ways that you overcome them? So give us some tools and tips in terms of, you know, life stuff, in terms of what you've learned. I'm curious to know what that looks like.

Sure, I would say the biggest challenge that I face that overcome, which is why now I'm able to work with the clients. Facing those is a sense of autopilot, okay, a sense of like I'm towing the corporate lines. So I had my next come to Jesus moment to use your language when I was about 38 and I was Haley had been he's about two at this point, I had all the markers of success, like I, you know, talked about, I've done all this stuff. I built all this stuff. And I remember looking at a photo of myself, yeah, and I was larger in size than I'd ever been before, which is a symptom, as we know, like there was just I didn't recognize the person in front of me. And again, I looked in this picture and zoomed in and my eyes were

Rev. Rose Hope: dark again, wow, wow.

And I was just like, Oh my god. It terrified me. So. Much, because here I should have been happy. I should have felt like everything was good. And I was like, Is this all there is Oh, that's the worst. And then even more shamed and that I was feeling that way,

Rev. Rose Hope: yes, oh, I went through the same thing in my 30s as well, right? Like I should be happy. I have a great life. I have all the things I could ever need. I get to travel, I have healthy kids, blah, blah, blah, and I'm freaking miserable. What's wrong with me, right?

So, yeah, what's wrong with me? Yeah. And so that was the year I decided that, well, there was a shift. There was that moment. So we talk about those breaks where you're like, I need to do something different here. And so I decided that I was gonna My Word of the Year that year, and that was, I think, the first year I started having words of the year. Was badass. And I say this because, you know my story about the badass pattern, different things. So when I met you, I think I was wearing a big shirt that said badass. So, yeah, yeah, that was the vibe. I was like, I am getting my badassery back. I used to be so sharp. I used to, you know, be so alive and so pumped about my life. And like, I am getting her back, no matter what, and fighting her amazing. And so I was learning, yeah. And I was like, What can I do? And so this leads to, kind of the first place that I work with my clients, not that I'm a coach in nutrition and lifestyle, but we start with home, your mind, body and spirit. And so in order to have this impact, I knew I was meant for something great. Remember, like, I was like, What am I doing with my life? This isn't it. Even though it's great, it's not it. So I needed to get my house in order. And so I'm like, you know, what? If I lose 50 pounds, everything will be better, you know? And of course, because I've lost 50 pounds, I'm somehow gonna become a millionaire, and my narrative, everything's gonna be awesome, too. I don't know why. I just thought, like, this was that they thought it was gonna work, right? So I was like, Okay, I got a plan, because I'm the woman with a plan, and I can follow a plan, and I like structure and logic, and this makes sense. Go Well, of course, I lost the 50 pounds, and over the course of the becoming the person who loses 50 pounds, I had to break up with my identity, quit being the weekend warrior, stop the habits I quit. I've been smoking for 20 years, a pack a day, and I had to quit. I

had to find new friends yet again, so excruciating. And I had to, like, put myself in circles of communities of people that were modeling the life that I wanted. Wow. And so I would say that the way that I like to work with my clients is that they come to me with that sense of, I'm meant for something better. I've had a great life. I've had success, like I'm not knocking it, but like there's something else there. Most of the people are in their middle kind of ages, like I feel like I resonate and I can serve that population to the best. And we start there, what is it that you truly, truly, truly want? And after you rattle off a bunch of shit, then we get into actually what you really want, yeah? And then once we get there, we say, Let's get your house in order, yeah? And that's the habits, that's the routines, that's the things that we do and think that allow us to become that version, and that's just consistency and repetitive and and building those new neural pathways. And for me, that's where the shift starts to happen. And then, you know, really, where I go from there. My superpower is helping people own their time and energy, and that is like, Why think my purpose in life is to really help people go from that clarity to now finding the white space and time and energy. And I use tools, my planner, I leverage AI, I have a background in this, in my corporate world that's been very impactful for me over the last year or two, and then I really moved from there into like, Wow, great. I have all this time and space now. What? Well, now to make some bold moves. Yes.

Rev. Rose Hope: Okay, so what are the things like, if I'm in that position and I I'm playing the I'll be happy when game, or I'm at that like, place where you were at, where you're just like, I gotta, I gotta do something. I gotta move this dial. What are the main things that you want our audience to know or to do to move the dial?

Well, first of all, just accepting that this is actually very normal and to be expected. And in fact, if you're a growth oriented human, which if you're not growing or changing every three months, then you're not doing it right, in my opinion. So if that's where you are, then almost embrace it as part of the process and actually have gratitude that you're feeling these feelings and hearing these whispers as loud as you are, because it means that. You're in tune with you. So let's celebrate that you're actually getting the messages, because so many of us are on autopilot and we're not getting them or refuse to live.

Rev. Rose Hope: Yeah, did you guys hear that? And I want to make sure you guys really heard that, because what she's saying here is that if you're feeling unhappy, if you're feeling miserable, if you're feeling like you're not where you're supposed to be if you feel like there's more for you, that's actually a good thing. That means that we can actually come into loving, acceptance, appreciation and celebration, as Janelle said, to really increase our vibration, but to also help us to move forward. So thank you for that. I just wanted to really highlight that because, you know, I think sometimes we need to let it land. Like, wait a second, I actually can celebrate that I'm unhappy. Yes, right? Yeah. And because being unhappy is an indicator that there's something that needs adjusting or realigning, and doesn't mean there's something wrong with us. Yes, we, you know, as we had,

you know, discovered your antenna is working. Yeah, that's what it's saying. Yeah, beautiful. So from there, what I love to do is my clients, when I first meet them, or just as I do myself. And this is built right into the planner. It's a tool that I use. And I mean, many people, you probably hear the wheel of life, all these types of things. I'm all about, kind of being the CEO of your life. So I talk about this in terms of a life on it. So this is an exercise that you can do anytime you're feeling maybe a new season of life is emerging. You're feeling a sense of overwhelm. You're feeling like maybe you've lost your spark, like I was describing like that and bam, like, What is this for? I wake up every day and it's more of the same, like, and it can be something that happens for quite a while, and you're like, What am I going to do to shake myself out of this? I find that this tool will often do it almost every single time.

Rev. Rose Hope: I love this idea of doing an audit. Like, to me, this is so brilliant. I actually recently talked about it in one of my like, wisdom walks that I do every month. And what I was saying is, like, take stock. Yeah, like, take stock. Because when you take stock, all of a sudden, it's like an overwhelming piece of evidence, or multiple pieces of evidence that are like, Hey, look at what you have done. Look at all the bounds you moved. Look at all the things you've overcome, look at all the things you work through. And this is so powerful you guys, if you're willing to do an audit, or take stock of that year or your whole life, if you want to, but brilliant thing for us to all do,

it's easy to do, easy not to do, just like so many my fair, yeah. And really the premise that I like to go through is actually go through all the areas of your life. So in this we start with the mind, body and soul. We move to our career leadership. We move then to the relationships in our life, then our mastery and growth, and then finally adventure and fun.

Rev. Rose Hope: Oh, nice.

And when we're taking audit, what I like to say is we have three columns in each of the categories. I like to just carve out one, and then in the first thing we want to we want to remind ourselves of what we're doing well, what the wins are, what gives us energy. So what are we keeping when it comes to our mind, our body and our health, what are we keeping that's really working for us, and they're like, Oh my God. When I meditate in the morning, or when I wake up and I do that yoga, or when I tick box, or whatever it is, I feel so amazing. Write it in the box, we're keeping that right. Like, yeah, and so then also too, like, when we're in this place of like, the gain we're reminding ourselves of all the things we are doing that is amazing. We're creating from a place of like, gain versus like, Oh, this is all the scarcity. This is what I don't have. This is the gap. We don't want to start there. We want to actually start building ourselves up in all the things that we are doing, and what is giving us energy. And then just really quickly, we have a stock column what's draining the frickin life out of us, what's draining the energy from us? What are shoulds of other people, boundaries that need to be set like anything in this pile? What do we need to release and let go, let that shit go. It's the most powerful column in this dog.

Rev. Rose Hope: I love that. That's part of it, because I think it's so easy to hold on to things, you know. And I was talking with a client this morning who has to let go of something pretty significant. I had to let go of something really big today that I had a lot of resistance over. It was a date for an event, right? And it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, what is my truth here? Is this lighting me up the way that it originally did, or is it draining my energy, and it was completely sucking the life out of me. And I thought, Whoa, time out. So taking a step back, like you said, put a stop on it. It doesn't mean that it's done. We're gonna just plan a date in the future, but is we're putting a stop on it and taking a step back. Yeah, and, and I. Think that's so powerful, and I think we need to do more of that, because we are overstimulated, inundated with this thing and that thing and all the To Do lists.

Oh, and we're human doers. Yeah, it was my era, right? And where I'd like to, you know, go here in this stockpile is even one step further, which is a reflection question that I asked myself each week, it's, what can I delegate, outsource, cancel, in order to create more white space this next week?

Rev. Rose Hope: Oh, I love that question,

favorite question. And of course, when we work with a type ambitious, high performing clients, they will say, Well, no, nothing, because no one can do it as good as me. It needs to be me. Does not need to be you. You're just keeping yourself busy, and you need to, just like, tackle all of those things. So some of it is courageous conversations. There's boundaries. Some of it is, wow. There's a million left brain tasks here that we can actually get AI or tools to do for you. And this is a boss move. This is you leveraging tools and things out there to not know things that do not need to be done by you.

Rev. Rose Hope: Yes, right?

It's all in your zone of geniuses. Yeah, do with it. So let's let art some time and energy here.

Rev. Rose Hope: We all have that, love it. Love it. Oh. Janelle, okay, we I know that you have way more to share, but we're gonna kind of wrap things up today, because I think you've got lots for us to, like, soak in. So you talked about this audit, and of course, like, we could just do this audit, but you have a gift for people, yes.

So what I'd love to do is, in the I guess the show notes, there will be a free download to the life audit. So I would love to invite all actually, no, I would love to challenge each and every one of you to start 2026 off with an audit of all the things that are bringing you energy, the things that you want to release, and then the things that now that you're releasing, you have capacity, time and energy to start, and those are the bold moves, those are the big things that your soul is calling you to do. And just spend some time with that. And if you do that, there'll be an email that gets sent out to you, and I'll have even something more special for you, if you'd like to connect with me, one on one,

Rev. Rose Hope: amazing that will be in the show notes, folks, so please look for that there. Take advantage. Do an audit. This is a perfect time as we start this year. Thank you, Janelle, I loved having this beautiful conversation with you. I got some really good things for myself, which I love. I'm going to do an audit. I'm going to sign up for this too, and I just want to thank you so much for seeing the light in me that you saw, and for leaning into that light and allowing us to share in the sacred space and have this conversation. It was so fulfilling. And I hope that you feel feel filled too.

Oh, the soul is filled. The cup is overflowing. And, girl, I think we're just getting started.

Rev. Rose Hope: Yeah, we are, oh, we are not the hard just the beginning, yeah, look out. Here we come. Big things coming in this 2026, year. Let me tell you, thank you again, so much, and thank you to all you listening. We so appreciate it. Without you, I would have no reason to do this podcast, so I so deeply appreciate you tuning in. Thank you for continuing to be champions and supporters of me and this podcast and all our amazing guests until next time. Be well. Bye, for now. Everyone,

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