Stop Proving, Start Positioning: The Real Path to Expert Authority
Have you ever felt like you’re stuck trying to prove your expertise? It’s exhausting and honestly, it rarely works the way you hope.
In this episode, Tara shares a personal story about being in that exact position and what it revealed: yes, your framework is what makes you stand out and positions you as an authority, but sometimes your audience still needs to hear where that authority comes from.
You’ll learn why leading with your framework changes everything, how to avoid the proving trap, and when it actually does make sense to share your background. Because positioning isn’t about proving - it’s about meeting your audience where they are and showing them why they can trust you to lead.
✨ Takeaways
- Why proving your expertise is frustrating and ineffective.
- How a proprietary framework builds instant authority and scalability.
- When sharing your background elevates your authority (and when it doesn’t).
- Why different audiences need different entry points into your expertise.
- The balance between framework-led positioning and credibility-building.
⏱ Episode Chapters
- 00:00 – Welcome to the podcast!
- 00:48 – What it means to own your framework as a scalable expert
- 01:58 – Why frameworks evolve (and that’s okay)
- 03:09 – The trap of proving you’re an expert
- 03:54 – Vulnerable story: a meeting gone wrong
- 06:17 – Why Tara doesn’t usually lead with her resume
- 08:51 – The consequences of not positioning as the authority
- 10:12 – When credentials actually matter
- 11:26 – Why everything is easier with a methodology
- 12:21 – Don’t assume people know your background
- 13:52 – Wrap-up: How to stop proving and start leading with expert authority
Mentioned in this episode:
https://taralbryan.com/step/15-learn-to-scale-call
Welcome to the Scalable Expert, the podcast where we unlock the secrets to building a business that grows with you, not around you.
Speaker AI'm your host, Tara Bryan, business strategist, mentor and creator of the Infinite Scale method.
Speaker AIf you're a coach, consultant, or service provider who's maxed out with one on one work, overwhelmed by the grind, and ready to scale your expertise into a business that works for you, then you're in the right place.
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Speaker AAll right.
Speaker AHey, everybody.
Speaker AWelcome to today's episode.
Speaker ASo this is a little bit of a personal episode for me, but I'm going to tell you this story because I think it's powerful and I think it's something that would resonate with you and you may have had this happen before.
Speaker ASo as we're talking about being a scalable expert, one of the things about being a scalable expert is that you own your proprietary methodology, you own your expertise, and that means something different to everyone.
Speaker ABut one of the things that I teach is here's how to package your expertise into a framework, right?
Speaker ASo essentially you're saying, okay, so here's the problem I'm solving, here's the result or the transformation that I can give someone, and then here's the fastest path to get from point A to point B.
Speaker AAnd as an expert, you can see that because you can see the 10,000 foot view of whatever your expertise is, right?
Speaker ASo you've gone down the road, you've helped other people with it.
Speaker AAnd just as a sidebar, like, if you're not confident in your framework, then keep helping people, right?
Speaker ABecause sometimes you have steps in the wrong order or sometimes things just need to be tweaked.
Speaker AI can't tell you how many times I've tweaked the titles to the Infinite Scale method or the phases are pretty solid, but sometimes there are steps that are moving inside of the framework.
Speaker AAnd it's not because I'm not an expert at it, it's because there's new pieces of information that I get when I'm working with people and I want to guide them down the fastest path, right?
Speaker ASo if it's not the fastest path, if they're getting stuck, then I'm able to adjust and go, oh, okay, maybe that's coming from my point of view.
Speaker AAnd not from my avatar's point of view.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker ASo I have to adjust that a little bit.
Speaker ASo I'm giving you permission.
Speaker AIf you're not a hundred percent on your framework, sometimes that means you need to serve more people and practice with your framework before you make it infinitely scalable.
Speaker ASometimes it's just the nature of the business, right?
Speaker ALike, things will shift and change as you go.
Speaker ABut what's really important is owning your authority, right?
Speaker ALike you're owning how you show up and you say, I'm an expert at this.
Speaker AHere's my expert framework, and then here's how I help you, which is an extension of the framework.
Speaker AIt's not an extension of who you are as an expert.
Speaker AThat's the positioning that I help my clients with is get out of who you are as an expert and package your framework in a way that allows you to show up as the expert with a methodology.
Speaker AThere's a huge shift in saying, I am the creator of the infinite scale method, where we help you go from X to Y.
Speaker AAnd so you can do this thing, right?
Speaker AVersus I'm an expert at this, and I can help you do this thing, whatever it is.
Speaker AAnd a lot of times when you lead with your expertise, you can just do all the things because you're really good at everything.
Speaker ASo it just helps to position.
Speaker AIt helps you to position yourself, and it helps other people to position you as the expert in a methodology.
Speaker AThen, of course, you can make that infinitely scalable.
Speaker ABut what I want to talk about today is the getting into the trap of trying to prove you are an expert and.
Speaker AAnd how kind of yucky that is when you're in a position of proving that you're an expert when you lead with your methodology, people are like, oh, well, she's the.
Speaker AThe creator of the infinite scale method, or she's the creator of the Fit Life method or whatever it is, Right?
Speaker ALike, that's something that makes the intangible tangible.
Speaker ARight?
Speaker AAnd so people can say, oh, well, they're an expert at this thing, so they can see it and experience it.
Speaker ASo there's less questioning about your authority or your expertise based on who you are or what you've done in the past.
Speaker AOkay, so I'm gonna get tactical in this.
Speaker AAnd this is the vulnerable part of the podcast.
Speaker AI have mentioned in some of the prior episodes that the summary took on a little bit of a different spin on some of the agency work that I used to do.
Speaker AAnd I did that for a lot of different reasons.
Speaker AGo listen to the other podcasts in order to find out the detail around that.
Speaker ABut one, I had this conversation.
Speaker AIt was just fascinating because I don't lead with my resume in terms of my experience level, with my expertise, especially my expertise back in the agency.
Speaker ALike, I just don't do it because I don't feel like it's necessary.
Speaker AAnd as I've been out as the creator of Infinite Scale Method and as the host of this podcast, and just all the brand positioning that I do when I speak and I am helping customers, I don't really feel like I have to go back and give them my resume in order for me to show up as the authority in the space.
Speaker AI just.
Speaker AI haven't had to do that in a very long time.
Speaker AI have 30 plus years of experience.
Speaker AI don't really feel like I have to tell people that.
Speaker ABut sometimes I forget that not everybody knows that.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker ABecause I live in this world all the time and I'm always talking about it.
Speaker AI'm on the podcast, I'm doing different things.
Speaker ASo when I was working on some of these projects this summer, they didn't know me in the same way.
Speaker AThey hadn't listened to the podcast.
Speaker AThey weren't.
Speaker AHadn't gone to my website, they hadn't heard about the Infinite Scale Method.
Speaker AThey haven't seen any of the books that I'd written, all the fakes.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AI found myself in a position where I did my thing where I was like, hey, I just have a lot of experience and I've been doing this for a really long time.
Speaker AAnd here's what I lead with and what I'm passionate about.
Speaker AAnd that's how I introduced myself, because that's usually what I do.
Speaker AAnd this woman that we were on the call with proceeded to introduce herself and she gave her resume and all the experience she had and where she had worked in the past and her education and all of the things.
Speaker ALong story short, it was interesting because she didn't see me as the expert, she saw herself as the expert.
Speaker ASo because of that, the way that she was positioning the conversation was that I was new or I didn't have the level of experience that she anticipated or wanted to have on this project.
Speaker AAnd so it was a really big lesson for me because I just don't feel like I need to talk about all of my credentials in terms of having an undergraduate degree in the field and a master's degree in the field and an MBA and all like, and 30 years of experience and working with some of the top brands in the Us.
Speaker AI don't need to talk about that when I share the work that I'm doing and whether or not it's because I've already declared my expertise and I feel pretty comfortable with that, or if it's just my style.
Speaker AI'm from Minnesota.
Speaker ALike, we don't really need to boast about those kinds of things.
Speaker ABut it was a good lesson for me to just take a step back.
Speaker AAnd there are times when I need to lead with that.
Speaker AThere are times when I need to lead with my authority so that it shows people that I do have the level of experience to bring to the table.
Speaker AAnd so it was a moment in time that reminded me of what it's like to try and fight for that sort of respect in terms of not owning my framework, not owning my methodology, and what that looks like before you step into a role of being a scalable expert where you can claim your authority and you can lead with your authority so people come to you, you don't have to come to them.
Speaker AAnd that was that moment that just reminded me, like I talked a lot about this in the prior podcast of all the fun lessons that I learned this summer by putting myself back into a position of being, you know, before all of the work that I've done over the last couple years.
Speaker ABut this was one of them is when you show up on a call and the person needs to prove to you that they are the authority in the room, what that looks like, right?
Speaker AAnd how it either undermines or advances your objectives when you're in a meeting.
Speaker AAnd then what happens when you don't lead the same way?
Speaker AAnd so it was just an epic failure with the fact that I didn't introduce myself in that manner.
Speaker AAnd because of that, the project actually got dissolved.
Speaker ANot just because of that, there are other reasons, but one of the things around that whole experience was really how you show up, right?
Speaker AHow do you show up as an expert or don't show up as an expert?
Speaker AAnd one of the things that I always try and remember is, and for those of you who are serving people online is that there is someone on the other end of that camera and sometimes they need to hear your expertise.
Speaker AThey need to hear that you have sort of the, the business or the, the experience chaps to be able to be the authority to have the conversation, right?
Speaker ALike, I couldn't stand here and say, hey, you know, like, here's how you create a successful seven figure business.
Speaker AIf I hadn't done that, I wouldn't be able to say, hey, here's how you become infinitely scalable.
Speaker AIf I hadn't been able to do that.
Speaker AAnd.
Speaker AAnd so sometimes you have to say that, right?
Speaker ALike, sometimes I may have to say that I have an MBA and a advanced degree in organizational development, instructional design, and elearning.
Speaker ALike, I may have to say all of those things for someone to go, oh, oh, well, she does have a lot of expertise in this, right?
Speaker AShe is somebody that I want to listen to because I trust what she has to say.
Speaker AOr, oh, the infinite scale method is legit because it's grounded in all of this experience.
Speaker AIt's not just like, I just dreamt it up or I went to chat GPT and made up some random set of steps.
Speaker ASo that is what I learned this summer, is that on that call, I probably should have given a little bit more of my background and not been so, like, laissez faire around that I have a lot of experience.
Speaker AAnd so the reason that I'm having this be a podcast episode is just to remind you that, well, one, everything is easier for when you have your own.
Speaker AYour authority framework and that you could lead from that.
Speaker ALike, everything is easier when you're like, I'm the creator of this framework because people are like, oh, yeah, tell me more.
Speaker ALike, how did you experience that?
Speaker AIf you can say, I take people from here to here and, you know, here's the fastest path that I do that, that level of clarity is so much more powerful than, yeah, I can help you for sure.
Speaker ALike, what do you need done?
Speaker ARight?
Speaker ATwo different approaches, and one leads to higher level of authority.
Speaker ASo everything is easier with a methodology.
Speaker ASo find one.
Speaker AAnd if you don't know how to do it, call me.
Speaker AI will help you.
Speaker AThat is one of my superpowers, is helping people actually, like, extract their framework into a packaged, proprietary methodology.
Speaker ABut sometimes we just take for granted that people know what our experience is.
Speaker AAnd sometimes you just have to remember that you need to tell them and that people don't always know, especially when you're in.
Speaker ALike, I am in the trenches with this every single day.
Speaker ASo regardless if I'm working with, you know, my Fortune 100 clients or any of the other experts that I'm working with, I am in this every single day.
Speaker AAnd so a lot of times I forget that.
Speaker ALike, when somebody's meeting me for the first time, they don't know that's what I do or the time, and that I'm super passionate around it.
Speaker AAnd so I forget that.
Speaker AOr I think, oh, I'm online.
Speaker APeople should just see me online and know what I do.
Speaker AAgain, remember that not everyone is going to know exactly what your authority is.
Speaker ASometimes you have to actually tell them.
Speaker ASo there you go.
Speaker AThat is my podcast today.
Speaker AIt's a little bit different.
Speaker AIt's a little bit revealing in terms of, like, I made an assumption I shouldn't have made, and because of it, there were real consequences to it.
Speaker ASo if you're one of those people who needs to know my resume, like, I got you covered.
Speaker AIt's on the website, but there you go.
Speaker ALike, sometimes you gotta lead with the actual experience that you have and show that you've got the right level of experience that will elevate your authority.
Speaker ASo how do you need to do that for yourself today?
Speaker AWhere are you making assumptions about people understanding your background or not understanding your background that maybe you need to do a little bit more work on?
Speaker AThat is my lesson for you today.
Speaker AIf you love this episode, give it a rating, share it with your friends.
Speaker AAnd if you were to talk to me about really dialing in that proprietary framework that does help you elevate your authority without having to say a resume, I can't tell you.
Speaker AIt's funny.
Speaker ABefore this conversation, like, I don't think people have asked me for my resume in years because that's not what I lead with.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AI lead with the methodology that I've developed and everything that comes around that.
Speaker AAnd so because of that, the resume aspect of things is just not relevant, or so I thought.
Speaker ASo it.
Speaker ASo if you are in that place, I challenge you to start looking at it a little bit differently.
Speaker AHow can you start with that methodology and then back it up with your resume?
Speaker AAll right, there you go, my friends.
Speaker AUntil next time, enjoy this episode and really think about how you are on the road to becoming a scalable expert, really finding that scalable impact of your work.