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In this enriching episode, we sit down with the multifaceted Shelley Fisher, a beacon of leadership and spirituality in the community. With a diverse background encompassing roles as a consultant, chaplain, professor, principal, and minister, Shelley shares profound insights drawn from her extensive experiences. As an author of notable works such as "Nehemiah on Leadership" and "Go and Tell", she delves deep into the principles of leadership intertwined with spiritual growth. Join us as we explore the synergies between leadership roles in various organizations and a deep-seated spiritual journey that fosters growth and community building.
Shelley Fisher wears many hats - a consultant, chaplain, professor, principal, mother, and minister, holding a myriad of leadership positions in various organizations. She is affiliated with the Interfaith Clergy Council and the ASCD (Association of Supervision and Curriculum Development), and serves on the ministerial staff at a local church. Shelley is also a prolific author, with works including "Nehemiah on Leadership", "Go and Tell", and "Sisters of the Gift Marketplace", offering readers profound insights into leadership and spirituality. Her journey is a testament to the power of dedication and the harmonious blend of professional leadership and spiritual guidance.
About the Host:
Introducing Saylor Cooper, an accomplished author and a true inspiration. Despite facing the challenges of living with a disability, Saylor has fearlessly pursued his dreams and emerged as a beacon of motivation for others. His journey in entrepreneurship, alongside his trusted ally Tyler, has propelled him to extraordinary heights.
At the core of Saylor's mission lies an unwavering belief in the power of hard work and determination. As the creator and host of Real Variety Radio, Saylor has established a remarkable internet radio station that offers a diverse range of programming spanning every genre of music and shows.
Additionally, he has taken the helm of the Hope Without Sight Podcast, where he engages in thought-provoking interviews with individuals who have triumphed over adversity, becoming a source of inspiration to people around the globe.
Saylor's ambitions extend far beyond his current accomplishments. He actively seeks opportunities to connect with fellow entrepreneurs and share their remarkable journeys at renowned networking events like Podapolooza and Speakers Playhouse. Through collaboration with speaking coaches, he is honing his skills to grace different stages and deliver his empowering message to diverse audiences.
But that is just the beginning of Saylor's extraordinary aspirations. With plans to monetize his internet radio station and organize life coaching events, he aims to empower others in their pursuit of dreams. Furthermore, Saylor envisions a future filled with numerous literary works, including a captivating autobiography chronicling his own life and a collaborative masterpiece featuring the remarkable stories of his podcast guests.
Above all, Saylor's ultimate goal is simple yet profound: he strives to demonstrate to individuals facing challenges that anything is possible when dreams are fueled by unwavering dedication and hard work. With Saylor blazing a trail of possibility, the potential for each and every one of us is boundless.
Join Saylor Cooper on this remarkable journey of empowerment and achievement, and discover that the power to transform lives resides within us all.
To connect with Saylor and learn more about his inspiring work, please visit his E-business card here: https://ovou.me/livefasetiyacehe
About the Co-host:
Tyler Evans is an integral part of the entrepreneurial journey of his best friend and business partner, Saylor Cooper. Despite facing his own unique challenges, Tyler is determined to make a difference in the world through his hard work and unwavering dedication.
As an active participant in the day-to-day operations of Real Variety Radio, Tyler plays a crucial role in the success of the internet radio station that offers diverse programming from all genres of music and shows. He's also a key contributor to the Hope Without Sight Podcast, where he helps to bring inspiring guests who have overcome adversity to the forefront.
Tyler's passion for entrepreneurship is matched only by his love of networking. He enjoys attending events like Podapolooza and Speakers Playhouse, where he can connect with fellow entrepreneurs and learn from their experiences. While Tyler may not have founded or created anything on his own just yet, he's an important member of the team and his contributions to the venture are invaluable.
Looking to the future, Tyler shares Saylor's vision of making a difference in people's lives and inspiring others to pursue their dreams despite any challenges they may face. He's excited about the possibility of monetizing the internet radio station and hosting life coaching events alongside Saylor to help others reach their full potential.
Tyler's ultimate goal is to collaborate with Saylor on writing books that share their individual and joint experiences, including an autobiography about his own life. Together, they hope to demonstrate to the world that anything is possible if one has the courage to chase their dreams and put in the hard work necessary to achieve them. With Tyler's unwavering determination and entrepreneurial spirit, there's no doubt he'll continue to make a positive impact on the world around him.
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Hello, everybody, welcome to episode 53 of help
Saylor Cooper:without site with your hosts, Saylor Cooper and this is
Tyler Evans:oyour co host Tyler Evans.
Saylor Cooper:Well, this is episode 53 We have more and more
Saylor Cooper:great guests who overcome challenges in life and now live
Saylor Cooper:a life of bliss Lane supreme. And this episode, we sit down
Saylor Cooper:with the multifaceted Shelley Fisher, a beacon of leadership
Saylor Cooper:and spirituality in a community who has a diverse background and
Saylor Cooper:compass in laws. The consultant, Chaplain, Minister, principle
Saylor Cooper:you name it, Shelly shows profound insights drawn from the
Saylor Cooper:extensive experiences. So that's why her bio.
Saylor Cooper:Shelley Fisher wears many hats as a consultant chaplain and
Saylor Cooper:professional principal mother, the minister holding a myriad of
Saylor Cooper:leadership positions in various organisations. She is affiliated
Saylor Cooper:with the interfaith clergy Council, and the ASC D. And, and
Saylor Cooper:serves as a ministerial staff at a local church shall he's also a
Saylor Cooper:prolific author with works including man, my own legal
Saylor Cooper:ship, go and tell the Sisters of the gift marketplace offering
Saylor Cooper:leaders profound insights into leadership and spirituality. She
Saylor Cooper:has a journey of a testament of power and dedication to a
Saylor Cooper:harmonious blend of professional leaders, leadership's and
Saylor Cooper:spiritual guidance. Please welcome our good friend, Shelley
Saylor Cooper:Fisher. Shelly, how you doing?
Shelley Fisher:Thank you so much. I'm doing fine. Thank you.
Shelley Fisher:It's such a pleasure to be with you today. So tell me how you
Shelley Fisher:got here today. More warning? Tyler's that she is big on God
Shelley Fisher:and ministry. I am too but Tyler's quiet. And I am so yeah.
Shelley Fisher:Well, you started. Oh, yeah. So
Tyler Evans:you just want to want me to ask, yeah, whatever.
Tyler Evans:Like, how did you get into your spirituality? And what kind of
Tyler Evans:spirituality is it? Okay, first of all, I'd like you to know
Tyler Evans:that my worldview is a Christian worldview.
Shelley Fisher:And spirituality evolved through the years I just
Shelley Fisher:didn't get to where I am here now suddenly. So it's been a
Shelley Fisher:journey. I was brought up in a church that was how can you say
Shelley Fisher:it? Religious quote? The membership doctors, lawyers,
Shelley Fisher:teachers, that kind of thing. And as since I was a little
Shelley Fisher:girl, I always wondered, you know, where is this God that I,
Shelley Fisher:I read about it, you know, this guy who performed the miracles
Shelley Fisher:this? This God who walked the water? So all around me, excuse
Shelley Fisher:me? Sorry about that someone went out and didn't disarm the
Shelley Fisher:burglar alarm. So I wondered, you know, where is this God. And
Shelley Fisher:all through the years, I wondered that I didn't see it.
Shelley Fisher:But I didn't join. I didn't get baptised till I was 19. I was
Shelley Fisher:ready to go off to college. And I thought, well, I really need
Shelley Fisher:help. I've never been away from home before. And if this God is
Shelley Fisher:who He says He is, he's gonna protect me. Well, it wasn't
Shelley Fisher:until I was in my career. And the teachers were the custodians
Shelley Fisher:were on strike in the school system. And we all had to go to
Shelley Fisher:one high school. And these teachers started these prayer
Shelley Fisher:meetings. At first, I was not interested. But because of
Shelley Fisher:curiosity, I decided to see what they were doing. And from this
Shelley Fisher:group evolved a group called Gary educators for Christ. And
Shelley Fisher:it was in that group, that the Lord gave me a spiritual mentor.
Shelley Fisher:And I began to have a relationship with God, I began
Shelley Fisher:to learn about prayer, I began to learn the word
Tyler Evans:are Yeah.
Shelley Fisher:I believe you know that I have dominion and
Shelley Fisher:authority over the works of the enemy, and that God has a
Shelley Fisher:purpose and a plan for all of us.
Saylor Cooper:Yes, he does.
Shelley Fisher:So I am I'm at this point him in my life where,
Shelley Fisher:you know, I want to share this with people. I want people to
Shelley Fisher:know that they are overcomers that they don't have to stay in
Shelley Fisher:the situation that they're in and um you know that that's
Shelley Fisher:where I am? I'm excited. The Lord has had me write books and
Shelley Fisher:my books. Talk about leadership. Talk about spirituality. And so
Shelley Fisher:I want people to know that whatever situation whatever
Shelley Fisher:darkness there is, in their life, they can overcome through
Shelley Fisher:Jesus Christ.
Saylor Cooper:We've overcome so much darkness. Have we Tyler?
Tyler Evans:Oh, yeah, we were born three months premature. In
Tyler Evans:fact, both of us weren't and we both have twins. Except he has a
Tyler Evans:twin sister. I have a twin brother. Yeah.
Saylor Cooper:And we were not expected to survive. Oh, we did.
Saylor Cooper:Thanks to the good Lord. We could be religious here because
Saylor Cooper:yeah, you are. We believe in God who saved us and Yeah,
Tyler Evans:well, to me, religion doesn't save a person
Tyler Evans:saves. And it's Jesus who saves? Yes. Yeah. You can be religious
Tyler Evans:all you want. Because think about the religious leaders in
Tyler Evans:the scriptures. They were all religious, but they weren't
Tyler Evans:saved. Well, they may not have been most likely. Yeah. But
Tyler Evans:yeah. So there are at least a few pastors I admire. Tony
Tyler Evans:Evans. I like him. He's from Dallas, Charles Stanley from
Tyler Evans:Georgia. Joel Osteen. To me is, is okay. He's more of a
Tyler Evans:motivational speaker than a spiritual leader. In my opinion.
Tyler Evans:I like him, meaning Charles Stanley, there's one guy from
Tyler Evans:Knoxville, Tennessee. I really liked Charles Lawson. He's
Tyler Evans:really good. But I don't know if Charles Stanley is still alive
Tyler Evans:or if he died, but I think he might have died. I don't know.
Tyler Evans:But those are just a few of the pastors I like. What about you
Tyler Evans:like what stands out to you like, those that I mentioned?
Tyler Evans:Like Tony?
Shelley Fisher:I like those that that you mentioned, and
Shelley Fisher:there's one in this area. I don't know if you've heard of
Shelley Fisher:Bill Winston. And stands out. I like the preachers who you know,
Shelley Fisher:preach the Word and oh, yeah, hotels, who helped you to find
Shelley Fisher:who you are in Christ and let you know what you have, that you
Shelley Fisher:have this Dominion authority, this power that's lying dormant
Shelley Fisher:on the inside, and it needs to be awakened.
Tyler Evans:Right. And I believe that what he and I are
Tyler Evans:doing as podcasters entrepreneurs, whatever, is a
Tyler Evans:form of ministry to a point, because we're both blind. And
Tyler Evans:our podcast is called Hope without sight. And it's
Tyler Evans:metaphor. So it's not just, Oh, you just happen to be blind. And
Tyler Evans:you just, you don't see any hope. And being blind. I mean,
Tyler Evans:the reason why we came up with this metaphor, partly was due to
Tyler Evans:the fact that we were blind. But also, it was due to we wanted to
Tyler Evans:think deeper than just, oh, we just happened to be blind. And
Tyler Evans:we need hope, because we're blind, you know, because we
Tyler Evans:can't drive can't be the this some, like some things can't be
Tyler Evans:the military in Canberra. Yes. But the hope without Sight is a
Tyler Evans:metaphor that says, an essence that it doesn't matter where
Tyler Evans:you've come from, doesn't matter how dark the circumstance, this
Tyler Evans:without sight part is basically, you know, the idea that there's
Tyler Evans:hope, despite not seeing any hope. In other words, the
Tyler Evans:circumstances are so deep, that are so profound to the
Tyler Evans:individual. And it just doesn't seem like there's any hope. But
Tyler Evans:they're truly awesome. And that's what help without sight
Tyler Evans:truly, is. It's a metaphor, it's deeper than just, oh, we just
Tyler Evans:happen to not have vision and yeah, it's it, you're almost
Tyler Evans:given a definition of faith. Exactly. Exactly. And, and
Tyler Evans:there's actually a scripture and it says, I think it's in Romans
Tyler Evans:and it says, hope does not disappoint. Now, a lot of people
Tyler Evans:have this, you know, you know how you hear the phrase. I hope
Tyler Evans:so. I know, like, I hope I don't like that phrase. It's not as
Tyler Evans:you know, because it's not true hope.
Saylor Cooper:That's probably about renaming my podcast and
Saylor Cooper:maybe show we will name it titled I don't know.
Tyler Evans:No, I don't think so.
Saylor Cooper:Why? Because I hope so is not. But the hope
Saylor Cooper:that we're talking about is not that kind of hope.
Tyler Evans:That kind of hope. It's a much different kind of
Tyler Evans:hope. And so, whenever you say I hope so it's mean it means
Tyler Evans:something like you're not sure if it's going to happen. You
Tyler Evans:have doubts, but the
Saylor Cooper:I have my family use that, and I don't like that.
Tyler Evans:Right. But the scripture talks about hope and a
Tyler Evans:much different way. It says hope is a person. Yes. It's it's
Tyler Evans:deeper than just oh, oh, I just hope so. Oh, this. We're hoping
Tyler Evans:it happens. No, that's not sure hope that's not the hope that
Tyler Evans:hope it outside really envisions hopeful outside is what it is.
Tyler Evans:It's hope despite not having clear direction yet. Yeah, he's
Tyler Evans:fine.
Shelley Fisher:And then hope that you, you mentioned is is a
Shelley Fisher:familiarity. It's no, I guess this is a pawn it has no
Shelley Fisher:substance. It has no substance in God. Hope. Faith is the
Shelley Fisher:substance of things hoped for the evidence of things not seen.
Shelley Fisher:And there are people who have their physical sight, but yet,
Shelley Fisher:they're still blind. Yeah, exactly. spiritually. Yeah. Yes.
Shelley Fisher:They're blind spiritually yet as related to the things of God.
Saylor Cooper:Thank you. Yeah.
Tyler Evans:And you know, I honestly think, Saylor, it what
Tyler Evans:we could do, we could actually create a description of hope,
Tyler Evans:without sight to clarify what hope without sight, the podcast
Tyler Evans:is that when people are confused, they're like, oh, what
Tyler Evans:does this you know? And we could also put it on our real variety
Tyler Evans:radio platform, which is also something we do as well. It's a
Tyler Evans:radio station. Yes. And things like that.
Saylor Cooper:I want to share some events with you as well
Saylor Cooper:that we're hosting. So you're also a good mother to tell me
Saylor Cooper:about you being a mother.
Shelley Fisher:Oh, I have two children. I have a son and a
Shelley Fisher:daughter. And our children and my son. I have two
Shelley Fisher:grandchildren, a 20 year old and a three year old. two
Shelley Fisher:grandchildren. Wow. And my daughter recently moved back to
Shelley Fisher:the area from Seattle, Washington, and my son lives in
Shelley Fisher:the cities. Yes. Where? I live in Gary, Indiana. About 30
Shelley Fisher:minutes from Chicago. Wow. Yeah, I think Gary's the Michael
Shelley Fisher:Jackson was born. Right? Yeah.
Tyler Evans:Oh, man. Everyone was even the even the president
Tyler Evans:back in 2009. Got involved with Michael Jackson's death. And all
Tyler Evans:these celebrities were just praising him. And it's like,
Tyler Evans:almost like they were like, he was like, God. Dang, he's just a
Tyler Evans:singer.
Shelley Fisher:Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So
Saylor Cooper:tell me about your books. And if you can put
Saylor Cooper:them in the chat so I can include in the show notes,
Saylor Cooper:that'd be great for the links. So your books are now my Oh, my.
Shelley Fisher:I guess my favourite book is Nehemiah on
Shelley Fisher:leadership, I can't come down. It's about leadership. And I'd
Shelley Fisher:see in the body of Christ in society at large, there's such a
Shelley Fisher:need for for quality leadership. And Nehemiah is an example of
Shelley Fisher:ungodly leadership he wind up scriptures open, you will see
Shelley Fisher:him serving first of all, he's serving the king is compared to
Shelley Fisher:the king. And then he he corrals the people to, to build to
Shelley Fisher:rebuild the wall. But most people leave out the part that
Shelley Fisher:he prayed three months before he started to build that wall. And
Shelley Fisher:during that time, the Lord gave him the plan. He gave him the
Shelley Fisher:format for what to do. And we know that those walls were built
Shelley Fisher:in 52 days. And I, I use two genres in this book, I use
Shelley Fisher:spirituality, as well as organisational theory, so that
Shelley Fisher:you can relate it to today. You know, oftentimes, people tell
Shelley Fisher:you something that happened in the Bible, but they don't relate
Shelley Fisher:it to today. So this this book could be a manual. And I also
Shelley Fisher:wrote another book, go and tell spiritual checkup. That's what
Shelley Fisher:you do and say, a line. I was so tired of people in the body of
Shelley Fisher:Christ saying one thing and, and doing another and, And the Lord
Shelley Fisher:just happened to write a book about it. And it's, it's about
Shelley Fisher:spirituality. I start with the prophets of all Isaiah, how the
Shelley Fisher:prophets would go to the people with a message and they would be
Shelley Fisher:rejected. And the same thing happens today in our society.
Shelley Fisher:When God is speaking, people often reject what is being said,
Shelley Fisher:rather than doing it the godly way. And then I, I, my, well, my
Shelley Fisher:latest book is called unlock the power of Proverbs. There's so
Shelley Fisher:much wisdom in Proverbs, of course. And I wrote that. And
Shelley Fisher:my, my colleagues and I, my associates, from the days of all
Shelley Fisher:when we were teaching and principals, about two years ago,
Shelley Fisher:we wrote a book. It's sisters of the gift, and what we did, we
Shelley Fisher:wrote about our journey. And we put examples in there how God is
Shelley Fisher:at work, in your everyday experiences.
Saylor Cooper:Yes, he is. God, is it look helping us venture
Saylor Cooper:into this entrepreneurship journey? And with this, I want
Saylor Cooper:to share some of the stuff that we're doing. Tyler, do you want
Saylor Cooper:to tell him what we're doing?
Tyler Evans:Yeah. So basically, we have two events coming. One
Tyler Evans:of which is a lift your spirit party. And it is a free event.
Tyler Evans:And I believe that is the first Thursday in October at 7pm.
Tyler Evans:Central time. Is that right? Sir? Is that seven central time?
Tyler Evans:Yeah. Well, it happened to launch it. Right, then. Yeah.
Tyler Evans:And then of course, there's another event called the
Tyler Evans:blissful life community. And it is us basically a membership.
Tyler Evans:And you pay 25 bucks a month. Or you can try, you can decide to
Tyler Evans:pay the $300 for the annual event. Like, like, not for the
Tyler Evans:annual event, but like annually. In other words, you can just pay
Tyler Evans:the 300 right up front, boom, you're set for an entire year,
Tyler Evans:or you can pay $25 a month. And it's a membership. It's, you
Tyler Evans:know, goes more in depth. And then what the lifter spirit
Tyler Evans:party does, okay? Yeah, I'm putting this information, the
Tyler Evans:chat itself, all listeners, including the host, and they're
Tyler Evans:calling a guest, if you text bliss, to
Saylor Cooper:832-481-6806. You can start your mini course to
Saylor Cooper:living a blissful life. Okay.
Shelley Fisher:You know what, for some reason, I cannot see my
Shelley Fisher:icons for zoom. My checks. I wanted to put the names of the
Shelley Fisher:books in the chat.
Saylor Cooper:Yeah, I put novice information, the chat
Saylor Cooper:here. Yeah.
Tyler Evans:And the number is bliss. The word bliss
Tyler Evans:28324816806. Is that right?
Saylor Cooper:Yes. Every 24816806 Yeah. And, and bliss is
Saylor Cooper:a muscle in our vocabulary. Yeah, as you know, I would just
Saylor Cooper:like the sound of the world brings peace, you know? Yeah.
Saylor Cooper:Well, think about it and heaven. There won't end there will be
Saylor Cooper:pure bliss, right. And I'm gonna see, yeah, we're both gonna see
Saylor Cooper:we both have, like enough of a pretty maturity.
Tyler Evans:Yep. I can see light and dark though. So at
Tyler Evans:least I can see that. So that's always good.
Saylor Cooper:Exactly. I finally
Shelley Fisher:found the chat. I found it. Yeah. Yeah.
Saylor Cooper:Yes. And so yeah, make sure make sure to save that
Saylor Cooper:chat. And so um, what are your future goals?
Shelley Fisher:I want to coach executive leaders, leaders of
Shelley Fisher:leaders, because I believe that leadership is so important that
Shelley Fisher:that is the way the organisation the family, the society at
Shelley Fisher:large, the government. I just believe leadership is so
Shelley Fisher:important, and God needs. He needs godly leaders, as often
Shelley Fisher:think about the children how, look at the examples that our
Shelley Fisher:nation is setting. There's so much so much this horrible
Shelley Fisher:gender stuff. I'm interested in leadership. That's the way the
Shelley Fisher:Lord is leading me now.
Saylor Cooper:trans gender stuff is absolutely terrible.
Saylor Cooper:You know,
Tyler Evans:I mean, it's one thing it's one thing to struggle
Tyler Evans:with. It's called Gender dysphoria, I believe. As
Tyler Evans:Christians shouldn't push our agenda on people by insisting
Tyler Evans:they have to be this, or they have to be that Now, granted,
Tyler Evans:the only way to heaven is through Christ. Sure. That's
Tyler Evans:what we believe. Other people believe differently. Muslims,
Tyler Evans:they believe, you know, differently then Hindus and
Tyler Evans:Buddhists and stuff like that. And even, believe it or not,
Tyler Evans:there are even some Christians who don't believe Jesus is the
Tyler Evans:only way. But that's a whole other story, you know? Yes, but
Tyler Evans:I believe Jesus is the Way the Truth. And that's what he said.
Tyler Evans:In John 14, six. Yeah. So yeah. You don't have to agree with it.
Tyler Evans:I mean, it's free country. Yeah. And what's cool, what's
Tyler Evans:interesting about freedom of religion is freedom of religion
Tyler Evans:came from God. It didn't come from government came from God.
Tyler Evans:Yes, yes. Yeah. The idea that, hey, you don't have to believe
Tyler Evans:but there's places for those who don't believe you know, it's,
Tyler Evans:it's hell for what we believe. And then other faiths teach
Tyler Evans:different things. So you know, but yeah. what denomination are
Tyler Evans:you at Methodist or what?
Shelley Fisher:None I'm non-denominational. I grew up
Shelley Fisher:Baptist. But I consider myself nondenominational. And wherever
Shelley Fisher:God wants me when he needs me. That's that's who I am. But I
Shelley Fisher:was born Baptists. Yeah. I mean, born but that's the way I was
Shelley Fisher:raised. But I consider myself non denominational.
Saylor Cooper:I grew up in a Methodist Church, like I had my
Saylor Cooper:christening when I was one year old. And I was officially
Saylor Cooper:baptised when I was 22. So I gave accepted Christ willingly
Saylor Cooper:at 22. Okay,
Tyler Evans:what you accepted 22 Yeah,
Saylor Cooper:I was baptised by my by my mom. When I was a baby.
Saylor Cooper:She gave me a Christ. And tonight, I did it myself at 22. So,
Tyler Evans:you know, Baptist Church, you know, they're not,
Tyler Evans:they're not heretic or anything heresy or anything like that,
Tyler Evans:which is good. But well, most of them aren't. I think some of
Tyler Evans:them are kinda, they can be some of them are a little bit. Yeah.
Tyler Evans:Titled, I know, you go to church, too. Yeah. But I'm
Tyler Evans:actually going to be going to a different church, the Sunday
Tyler Evans:with my sister in law and her mom. So yeah. Well, great. So,
Tyler Evans:Shelley, do you have anything else to share with us?
Shelley Fisher:Just I just like to share that. It's all about
Shelley Fisher:relationships. It's not about the church, specifically that
Shelley Fisher:you go to, but it's about your relationship with God, you know,
Shelley Fisher:and ship with God. You know, you study the word you pray, you
Shelley Fisher:spend time with him. You're kind you're you serve. But this this
Shelley Fisher:walk is about a relationship with God. That's the bottom line.
Tyler Evans:Amen.
Saylor Cooper:So, if nothing else, Tyler, do you want to
Saylor Cooper:close out with our customers in the?
Tyler Evans:Yeah, so what do you what do you say to those who
Tyler Evans:have no hope? who feel they have no hope? And don't know where
Tyler Evans:their tone? Yeah.
Shelley Fisher:Is that a question for me? Or is that your
Shelley Fisher:question? That's a question for you. Well, my question to me is
Shelley Fisher:to you don't pounce on people, but just to in your interactions
Shelley Fisher:with them. You just display Jesus and just keep showing who
Shelley Fisher:he is and keep talking to them and interacting with them. And
Shelley Fisher:that way, you you you get them to, you know, to have this hope,
Shelley Fisher:this belief in God. Amen. Amen. Amen.
Saylor Cooper:Both Shelly Fisher, thanks so much for being
Saylor Cooper:on the help site podcast providing more helpful God
Saylor Cooper:because God had Jesus on the Way. Yes, yes.
Saylor Cooper:Stay blessed everyone and continue to live a life full of
Saylor Cooper:bliss. Until then, peace out.
