E 270: Maybe You Brought the Ick Into The Relationship

As a follow-up to the recent episode with Bryan Power, this conversation looks at a familiar experience many people encounter in long-term relationships—often referred to as “the ick.” That subtle but persistent feeling of irritation, resentment, emotional distance, or shutdown can be unsettling and easy to misinterpret.
Rather than suggesting these feelings mean something is wrong with your partner or your relationship, this episode offers a different lens: the ick as a response from a dysregulated nervous system. When stress, emotional load, and unresolved experiences accumulate, the body can shift into protection mode, altering how we perceive connection, closeness, and safety within our relationships.
Building on themes discussed in the episode with Bryan, this conversation focuses on how nervous system dysregulation can distort interpretation and amplify reactivity. What feels like loss of attraction or emotional disconnection is often the nervous system signaling overload—not a lack of love or compatibility. When the body is dysregulated, clarity is limited, and familiar behaviors can suddenly feel irritating or overwhelming.
This episode invites listeners to pause before assigning meaning to these reactions and instead notice what’s happening internally. By viewing the ick through a nervous system lens rather than as a relationship verdict, it becomes possible to move out of blame and into awareness, creating space for regulation, compassion, and more grounded connection.
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Well, hello, everybody, and welcome back to another episode.
Speaker ASo if you're here, you already know that the podcast is about.
Speaker AIt's not about blaming, fixing, shaming.
Speaker AIt's about understanding so we can actually heal instead of repeating the same cycles over and over and over again.
Speaker ASo today I want to talk about something again, kind of vulnerable, but something that almost nobody talks about openly, but a lot of people honestly are feeling it.
Speaker AIt's that quiet, uncomfortable ick that creeps into relationships.
Speaker ASo it's when you've been married 5, 10, 15, 20, 25 years, or you've been dating someone for years, even if you're not married, it's those things that sneak in.
Speaker AIt's resentment, irritation, numbness, shutdown.
Speaker AIt's that feeling of, oh, my God, why does everything they do suddenly bother me?
Speaker AIt's what I call just simply the ick.
Speaker AAnd I want to say this right up front.
Speaker AIf you've ever felt the ick in your relationship, it doesn't mean you choose wrong.
Speaker AIt doesn't mean that you're falling out of love.
Speaker AIt doesn't mean it's over.
Speaker AIt doesn't mean you are broken most of the time.
Speaker AWhat it honestly means.
Speaker AAnd if we're going back to everything we talk about in this podcast, it means your nervous system is flat out exhausted.
Speaker ASo in the latest episode we did with Brian Power, we talked a lot about relationships.
Speaker AWe talked about attachment styles and communication and boundaries.
Speaker AAnd honestly, we talked a lot about the skills that most of us were never taught growing up in dysfunction and all of that matters.
Speaker AAnd it matters a lot.
Speaker ABut today, I want to come at it from a little bit different of an angle, because here's what I see all over again with people in my line of work and the people that I work with and the people I talk to on a regular basis.
Speaker AWe understand attachment theory.
Speaker AThey understand communication, they understand boundaries, but yet their body reacts.
Speaker AIt still reacts.
Speaker ASo logically, while they understand all of this, they can't stop their body from reacting, and it shuts down.
Speaker AThe attraction's gone.
Speaker AThey honestly, sometimes even physical touch is just irritating.
Speaker ATheir tolerance is gone, their patience is gone.
Speaker AAnd being that they came from this line of dysfunction and these habits of dysfunction, what is the first thing they think?
Speaker AWhat is the first thing that you might think?
Speaker AYou think, what is wrong with me?
Speaker AAnd honestly, nothing's wrong with you.
Speaker AIt's your body, and it's your body trying to tell you something.
Speaker ASo what is the ick?
Speaker ALet's talk about what the ick is.
Speaker AWell, first of all, let's talk about what it's not.
Speaker AIt's not a personality flaw.
Speaker AIt's not immaturity.
Speaker AIt's not you being overly dramatic.
Speaker AI'm going to talk about it as the stored unprocessed stress that literally has nowhere left to go in your body.
Speaker ASo it's the tightness, it's the clenching, it's that frustration of, oh, I'm just.
Speaker AI just don't know what I want to do.
Speaker AOr nothing bad has happened or they didn't cheat on me, they didn't abuse me, they're good person.
Speaker AWhy do I still feel this way?
Speaker ABecause honestly, all of this can be true and they can be the best person in the world, but your body can still feel unsafe.
Speaker AIt can still feel unsafe because it's still dealing with unprocessed emotions.
Speaker AAnd your brain does not know the difference between here, now, then when doesn't know the difference.
Speaker ASo even though you're reacting to something that could have been implanted in you 35 years ago, you're thinking it's right now.
Speaker AYou're thinking it's here and now, and you're thinking it's that other person.
Speaker AThe other day, Brian talked about something that really stuck with me.
Speaker AAnd I thought about it over and over again and I wanted to try to see how I could maybe reframe it for you guys.
Speaker AHe talked about the death by a thousand paper cuts.
Speaker AAnd so I'm going to reframe that a little bit because it really, really, really is.
Speaker AAnd I was trying to picture what are those thousand paper cuts when you're stuck in dysregulation.
Speaker ASo let's reframe it as death by a thousand unprocessed nervous system responses.
Speaker AIt's the things you didn't say, it's the needs that you had that you minimized or pushed off to the side.
Speaker AIt's the boundaries that you didn't know how to set or the ones that you set and that were so violently violated that you ignored them.
Speaker AIt's the emotions that you didn't feel safe expressing.
Speaker AThose are the death by a thousand paper cuts that Brian's talking about.
Speaker AAnd I'm putting it into nervous system talk.
Speaker ASo eventually your nervous system starts to associate those feelings, those death by a thousand nervous system unresolved responses, not with love, but with depletion.
Speaker AAnd that's when the ick shows up.
Speaker ASo I hate to say this because I know part of healing is honestly looking at what our part in this is, but and this might be honestly a little uncomfortable.
Speaker AAnd I'm saying it with compassion.
Speaker AI'm not judging, I'm saying it out of love.
Speaker ABut a lot of times we brought this ick into the relationship.
Speaker AMost of us did not enter our marriages healed, regulated, or even self aware, honestly.
Speaker AI know I did.
Speaker AI brought in survival patterns, I brought in childhood conditioning, I brought in a nervous system trained for chaos, not connection.
Speaker ASo what did you bring into your, into your relationship?
Speaker AI can go on with the things that I brought into mind.
Speaker AI brought in people pleasing, I brought in, I brought in emotional shutdown, I brought in hyper independence and I brought in over functioning.
Speaker AAnd at the end of the day, I brought in resentment.
Speaker AAnd it doesn't make me bad.
Speaker AIt doesn't make you bad, right?
Speaker AWrong.
Speaker AIt makes us human, honestly.
Speaker ABut when the patterns go and we don't examine them and we don't process them and we don't figure out that they're even patterns and they don't, we don't realize they're running our life, what does it turn into?
Speaker AIt turns into irritation, distance, animosity, anger, resentment.
Speaker AThat's what it turns into.
Speaker AAnd that's what I'm talking about when I say the ick.
Speaker ASo really, what's happened?
Speaker AHonestly, when you come into a relationship that dysregulated, your body turns the partner into the threat, even if they never did anything wrong.
Speaker AYou cannot talk your way out of a dysregulated nervous system.
Speaker AYou cannot logic yourself into desire.
Speaker AYou can't just say, I should love this person, I should feel this person, I should feel this.
Speaker AYou cannot force your body into doing that.
Speaker AThe more you do that, the more stress, anxiety, panic that you're going to create for your body.
Speaker AYour nervous system really was designed to protect you.
Speaker AAnd it came up with these memories.
Speaker AIt started to read tones and energy and little conflicts and unspoken resentment.
Speaker AAnd so eventually, after all of that and every single glitch or every single tightening of your nervous system and of your body, eventually your body just says, I don't feel safe anymore.
Speaker AAnd it looks out.
Speaker AAnd what is the first person it sees?
Speaker AYour partner.
Speaker ASo this isn't because your partner's bad.
Speaker AIt's because your nervous system is overloaded.
Speaker AThat's when you stop being attracted.
Speaker AThat's when the touch starts to feel irritating.
Speaker AAnd that's when the distance, honestly, sometimes feels like relief and people panic because they still love their partner.
Speaker ABut I want to tell you something.
Speaker ARunning away is not going to help it.
Speaker ALet's just Honestly, let's talk about why getting over it or starting over doesn't just fix it.
Speaker ASo many people get there and then they think maybe it's just the wrong person, and they leave and they start over again.
Speaker AThey find chemistry again with someone else, and then months or years later, their same feelings come back again.
Speaker ADifferent face, same nervous system pattern.
Speaker ABecause if you don't process what your body learned in the last relationship, you'll bring it into the next one.
Speaker AJust different name, different face, different clothes, but same, same patterns.
Speaker ASo what do you do if you're with somebody and the ick is already there?
Speaker AJust talk about that.
Speaker AThat's when people panic.
Speaker AThey think, you know, they.
Speaker AThey think it's their fault.
Speaker AI shouldn't feel this way.
Speaker ASomething's wrong with me.
Speaker AMaybe the relationship is just over.
Speaker AAnd I want to slow that down a bit.
Speaker AA bit.
Speaker ABecause the worst thing you can do when the ick shows up, honestly, is rush to give it meaning.
Speaker AYou can't rationalize what your body's feeling.
Speaker ASo you.
Speaker AI'm going to give you a couple steps, and these are things that I kind of processed and thought about when I got off the podcast with Brian, because, wow, he was.
Speaker AWhat he said was so simple, so easy, and it made so much sense.
Speaker ABut I wanted to put it into more of a nervous system.
Speaker AEye or viewpoint, I guess you could say a lens from the nervous system.
Speaker AOne, you have to stop interpreting the feeling.
Speaker AThe ick ick is not a message about your partner.
Speaker AIt's a message about your internal state.
Speaker ASomething in your body is literally saying, I'm overwhelmed and this is unsustainable right now.
Speaker ANot.
Speaker AThis relationship is doomed and I need to get out.
Speaker ASo don't jump to confront, analyze, or make any big decisions.
Speaker AJust pause.
Speaker ABecause right now what your nervous system might mean is regulation, not interpretation.
Speaker ASo work a couple days, a couple weeks, a couple months on learning to regulate that nervous system.
Speaker ATwo, regulate first, then reflect.
Speaker AYou can't think clearly from a dysregulated body.
Speaker AHow many times do we say that?
Speaker AWhen you are in that fight, flight, freeze fawn, you are not in that logical processing part of your brain.
Speaker ASo you're in protection mode.
Speaker AYou're not in clear, clarity mode, or you're not clear mode, or you're not in logical thinking mode.
Speaker ASo here comes the work.
Speaker ADon't jump and run.
Speaker ATalk to yourself.
Speaker AHow do I bring my body back into safety?
Speaker AAnd we've talked a lot about this, and this is what a lot of what I work with my People to do things like gentle movement, walking, shaking, vibrating, deep breathing, grounding, singing, dancing, whatever it is, you're not trying to force the feeling away.
Speaker AYou're trying to be help your body become safe enough to hear what it's saying.
Speaker AAnd sometimes even those tiniest little shifts can change absolutely everything.
Speaker AIf you're sitting there and you're talking to your partner and you're getting a little irritated and you're getting a little anxious and you're sitting in your seat and you feel your bottom clench or you feel your shoulders tense, just move back and forth a little bit, raise your shoulders, shrug your shoulders, move around, pull on your index finger.
Speaker AWhatever it is, just move a little bit.
Speaker ASometimes those small shifts completely refocus and you can stop that thought pattern in its tracks.
Speaker AStep three.
Speaker AName the sensation, not the story.
Speaker ADon't ask yourself why they annoy you now and they never did before.
Speaker AAsk yourself, what's happening in my body when I'm around them?
Speaker ADon't try to find the blame from them.
Speaker AFind out what's going inside of you when you're around them.
Speaker AWhat do you feel in the tightness, the clenching, the numbness, the withdrawal?
Speaker AHonestly, it's going that your body is going to speak in sensation way before language.
Speaker AAnd I just talked about this a couple episodes back.
Speaker AIf you want to go back and listen there.
Speaker ABut when you feel that in your body, just kind of stay there and just feel it.
Speaker ADon't place the blame.
Speaker ADon't say they make me tense, they make me clench.
Speaker AI get annoyed when I'm with them.
Speaker AJust feel it.
Speaker AStep four, look for.
Speaker AI call this looking for resentment that never had a voice often, so often.
Speaker AAnd I think this has happened a lot with me in all of my relationships.
Speaker AThe ick sits on top of unexpressed resentment.
Speaker ASo you get mad, whether it's guilty or you, you over give or you, you stifle a boundary.
Speaker AYou under express, you abandon yourself.
Speaker AYou say yes when your body wants to say no to keep the peace, for whatever reason you do it.
Speaker AThe body remembers all of that.
Speaker AAnd every time you do that, it builds.
Speaker AIt builds and builds.
Speaker AIt builds just a tiny little little bit more.
Speaker AThat's going back to Brian's death by a thousand paper cuts.
Speaker AAnd eventually you're going to burn out.
Speaker AYour body is going to basically say I can't do this anymore.
Speaker AAnd you're going to blame it on being with that person, when in reality it was all about dysregulating yourself.
Speaker AStep 5.
Speaker ADo not try to reconnect from exhaustion.
Speaker AAnd I know this is very important, and we did talk about it with Brian.
Speaker AForcing closeness while you're feeling unsafe only makes the ick worse.
Speaker AIt doesn't come from effort.
Speaker AIt doesn't come from that, you know, exciting date night that you make yourself go on.
Speaker AIt comes from being safe and feeling safe.
Speaker ASo sometimes a little distance might help.
Speaker ASometimes the most loving thing you can do for yourself is to stop trying to fix the relationship and just start regulating your own body.
Speaker AAnd the last thing I'm going to say is, start getting curious instead of critical.
Speaker AAnd I know if you've listened to my podcast, you've heard this hundreds of times, if not more.
Speaker AAsk yourself, why?
Speaker AWhy do I feel this way?
Speaker ADon't blame.
Speaker ADon't ask what's wrong with me.
Speaker AJust say, what is my nervous system or what is my body trying to protect me from?
Speaker AWhen you become curious, it softens the body.
Speaker ACriticism or getting angry at yourself tightens it, and healing happens, and transformation happens, and growth happens in the softness when you do feel safe to open up.
Speaker ASo I know that sounds kind of simple, but I'm gonna.
Speaker AI'm gonna kind of go over them again one more time.
Speaker ABut I just want you to start thinking about this, and if this is a little upsetting to you, I understand it.
Speaker ABecause none of us want to admit or even come to terms with the fact that maybe we brought the ick into our relationship and it's not the other person.
Speaker ABut honestly, guys, if we want to heal and you want to heal and you want to get better, and we all are out there to do that, we're all out there to do that together.
Speaker AYou have to look at your part in this whole big picture.
Speaker ASo number one is stop interpreting the feeling.
Speaker AIt's not about them.
Speaker AIt's about your internal state.
Speaker ANumber two, regulate first, then reflect.
Speaker AYou can't think clearly from a dysregulated body, so regulate first.
Speaker ANumber three, name the sensation, not the story.
Speaker ADon't turn around immediately looking at them, but ask yourself, what is happening in my body when I'm around them.
Speaker AStep four, look for resentment that never had a voice.
Speaker ASo ask yourself, what am I doing?
Speaker AYour body remembers this, and try to remember where that is coming from, because most likely it is not coming from the person that is standing in front of you.
Speaker AStep five, don't try to reconnect from exhaustion.
Speaker ADon't force it.
Speaker ARegulate.
Speaker ADo not try to force something that does not exist right now or that your body cannot handle.
Speaker AIt's only going to make it more stressful.
Speaker AAnd step six, get curious instead of critical because of.
Speaker AInstead of saying, what's wrong with me?
Speaker AAsk what is my nervous system trying to protect me from?
Speaker AAgain, that is going to lead you to more of the softness, and that is where we heal.
Speaker ASo I'm sure some people are out there listening and you're going, damn you, Tammy.
Speaker AWhy'd you bring that up?
Speaker AWhy'd you make it my fault?
Speaker AIt's not about your fault.
Speaker ABut, guys, healing is about being aware and accepting responsibility and changing some of your inner patterns so that you and the people around you can grow and love with you as you grow.
Speaker AMaybe you're just saying, yeah, maybe, okay, I hear some of that, but I don't really want to hear some of that.
Speaker ABut maybe there's just a little bit more for you to explore.
Speaker APlease don't do that alone or feel that you have to do that alone.
Speaker AI do offer free clarity calls.
Speaker ANot to fix you, convince you, or push you into anything, but I want to offer some.
Speaker AJust some safe space so that you can talk about what's going on in your body.
Speaker AAnd let's see what maybe it might be.
Speaker ACommunicating honestly.
Speaker ASometimes one grounded conversation brings more clarity than months of overthinking.
Speaker AI promise you that.
Speaker AI've been to therapist after therapist after therapist, and I can remember certain conversations where I had with coaches where all of a sudden I was like, cha Ching, I get it.
Speaker ASo there is no pressure here.
Speaker AThere is no.
Speaker ANo forcing, no anything.
Speaker AJust curiosity and care.
Speaker AHonestly, guys, ick is not a failure.
Speaker AIt's information.
Speaker AAnd what do we do with information?
Speaker AWe learn from it.
Speaker AWe grow from it.
Speaker AWe grow some more from it.
Speaker ASo please believe me when I tell you your body is not betraying you.
Speaker AIt's asking for attention.
Speaker AAnd when the body feels safe again, that is when connection is going to happen again.
Speaker AWith yourself, with others.
Speaker AWhether it's a spouse, a friend, a family member, whatever it is.
Speaker AConnection doesn't happen when your body feels unsafe.
Speaker AWhen your body feels unsafe, all you are doing is protecting yourself.
Speaker AAnd your brain and body are protecting you from that connection.
Speaker ASo thank you for being here.
Speaker APlease take care of your nervous system this week.
Speaker AIt's been carrying so much more than you realized and love on yourself.
Speaker AGive yourself a hug and remember, regulate, then communicate.
Speaker ALove you guys, and I will so talk to you soon.
Speaker AHave a great day and I will see you back soon.







