E 152: Why Mindfulness and Emotional Intelligence Matter in Childhood Development w/Veronica Moya

Well, hello everybody and welcome back.

And I'm just going to be brutally honest.

I was going to introduce Veronica Moya with a beautifully written biography that she wrote and I can't seem to find it.

So I am actually just going to say welcome Veronica.

And I will start by just saying that I absolutely love what she does.

She works with children and I'll let her explain a little bit more about what she does.

But more important, she importantly, she works with children, spreading the message and teaching emotional intelligence and just how to regulate our feelings and our emotions.

And I feel like that is something that not just right now is being missed, but for generations and generations has been missed in the big picture of raising our children.

So welcome Veronica.

Thank you, thank you.

I'm very happy to be here by the way.

You have such amazing energy.

It's really a joy to be with you, to be chatting with you.

It's very nice.

And I love that you don't have my, my bio.

No need.

Yeah, no, there really isn't any because I'm going to let people, you just tell the audience a little bit about yourself for the people that are just listening and are not watching.

To get an idea of Veronica's energy, she is literally sitting in the middle of this huge rainbow with clouds all around it.

The rainbow literally like breaks frames out her face.

Absolutely adorable.

So yes, agreed that you as well have the most positive energy.

So tell us Veronica, a little bit about you, how you got started and what you're doing today.

Very good.

So Veronica Moya from Argentina moved into the states about 25 years ago and I teach children, exclusively children and teens, mindfulness meditation and truly how to develop and maintain their connection with their sixth sense, their intuitive abilities.

Because that's something that we lose as we grow older because the intellect and the common sense over overpowers our intuition.

And yeah, so that's, that's my mission to help children maintain that connection with the soul, with their essence as they grow older.

So when they become our age, they become adults.

They don't have to run for the self help aisle because they are already, you know, wise, self healing, self regulated, self knowing, you know, the then getting to know yourself is, I mean it's really important.

And you cannot do that with books, you cannot do that with people telling you you are great.

You cannot do that by having straight A's.

We know that.

I mean, look at Robin Williams, right?

It doesn't matter how wonderful you are, if you don't feel that way inside.

All bets are off.

So you know, a cultivating self love and self acceptance is my mission in life to have, you know.

Yeah, I love it.

And I, I guess when I read your bio, I took a different take on that.

Is that like I was looking at the emotional intelligence part of it.

But that's, that's a very, that's a very unique part of it or a very specific part of it.

So you're talking about just getting kids back to understanding who they were born as their divine self.

Their.

Yeah, I say it all the time.

It's like we're born this beautiful, divine, joyous, happy creature and then life starts lifing and people start telling you something other about yourself.

Yeah.

It's like knock you down and, and every time someone else knocks you down and you think something and it's a lie, you believe it and it gets buried so deeply in you.

So it's important, like you said, that we don't start looking for these answers.

And who AM I at 26, 20, 27 years old after we're out of the house?

But we're doing it now while we're children.

We're, we're learning and, and trusting our instinct.

I love that.

Yep.

No, and, and the funny thing, so I do.

So, you know, I've been working in public schools.

So I was, I'm from New York City.

I just moved to Florida a year ago.

And in New York I was fortunate enough to be able to work at public schools.

They were very open and generous and it was such an amazing, a wonderful learning experience.

And because of their need, you know how life happens, they just, you know, things happen and, and you end up here or there.

So I taught five, five year olds.

And guess what?

If you ask the parents, every parent, everybody will tell you, impossible.

Ah, good luck getting my kid to meditate.

But everybody did it, and willingly and happily.

And they were looking forward to the class every week.

And when I couldn't be in class because I was on vacation or whatever, I, I have a YouTube channel, Mindful V. I and I would make videos.

So the videos are now in the channel and the teachers would use the videos every week so the kids would still have the class.

And they were looking forward to the class.

And I have a photo.

Obviously, of course I don't have it now.

Let me see if I find it.

The kids making fun of me in the hallway, when they find me, they go, they, they, they make a pose as if they were meditating like this.

So what am I trying to say with this?

Is that the Body knows the soul knows what it needs.

And it was like a refreshing glass of water for them.

Yeah.

And it was groups of 20 kids and I even did 60 kids with different ages.

So I encourage the parents to try it.

It's just about introducing the activity and then see what happens and have no expectations.

Yes.

Right.

So for a.

You said they were 4, 5, 6 years old, like little.

Oh, right.

So they put me with.

Yeah, I started with.

I went to the four year old classroom and I only went there once.

I quit quickly, I said no, no.

So after so.

And I even went to a three year old classroom or it was a Montessori school.

So my experience.

So I tried with three, with four, five, five.

I found that it's the sweet spot.

A five year old, it's an that per.

And I think it is the perfect moment, the perfect time to introduce this activity.

They understand, they know who they are, they know their environment.

In this particular class that I was teaching, there were kids of somewhat prominent families.

Most of them, they were a good financial standing, you could tell.

So a lot of them were going through parents with divorces.

A lot of them had two nannies.

When you tell me you have two nannies, I know a couple of things.

I know, well, you have money and they don't want to spend too much time with you because.

Because a working mom doesn't have two nannies.

A working mom will have the kids stay in School until 6pm and then you know, the juggle.

And so the kids were, they were very aware of their situation at home and you hear very interesting things.

You know their take on it.

They're not dumb, they are young.

But they're very wise.

The things they would say.

And it was funny because the teachers would laugh sometimes and I'm like, why would you laugh?

Like it's not nonsense, I believe.

Right?

Yeah.

Like so one kid said he didn't want to live, he wanted to die.

He was very popular, he was lovely, he was happy, he was smiley.

He was the one with the two nannies.

So he just, he wasn't enjoying life here.

And I get it.

He wasn't kidding.

Another one saying he, they were stressed.

They use the word stress a lot.

And that's where the teacher laugh and the teacher's like, what can you.

What are you stressed about at 5 years old?

Ha.

I'm like, well, well.

And, and just the fact that the kid used the word stress means that they hear it all the time at home.

You know, children don't come up with that Word, like I'm stressed by themselves.

Right.

But they knew what they were, they knew what they were saying.

It's not like, oh yeah, you know, it was like a fun word to say.

I knew.

And then another little kid, her parents were getting divorced.

So in many cases they were all five.

Obviously in many cases the parents would lie to them.

And I guess I understand the parents, I'm assuming they were having a hard time and were trying to navigate the divorce.

So in one case they were telling the kid that dad had to work in Boston, he had to go far to work.

And anyway, it was a bad story.

But the long, short, okay, we are wise and we know better.

This child knew something was seriously wrong and she was crying and she was in pain.

She thought something bad was happening to the dad.

Why?

Because we know energetically we can feel each other.

So she intuitively knew that something was off.

It's not like daddy was at a job, was working and was fine.

Everything was hunky door and he was happy.

The sadness that the parents might have been feeling was perceivable.

It was, she knew.

And then another kid, a lot of divorce parents in this class, but another kid, the parents also were getting divorced.

And she's like, yeah, so she was sad and she missed her dad.

And she said, yeah, he just.

My dad doesn't like my mom, that's all.

And the way she said it was such maturity.

It was kind of like, what are you gonna.

What am I gonna do?

This is it, right?

So it is.

So now I know.

I went on and on and on.

What I'm trying to say is that life happens to all of us.

It's gonna happen.

No matter how much you try to protect your children.

Trauma is there and the psychologists know that.

And the body, you know, the trauma stays in our body.

And like you said, older and we carry and we repeat patterns.

Don't I know it still today?

Yeah, still today.

And I can feel it.

I'm very, very self aware.

And it's, it's a battle.

The self sabotage, the self defeating thoughts, all those, you know, the things that you learn when you're little.

And even if your parents didn't mean to be cruel to you, somehow still happens.

Well, you know, it's.

There's no escaping, I always say there's no escaping traumatic events, but there is escaping trauma.

So like if something happens when you're little and you get the support, you get the backing, you get the love, you get all of that and you get to process that and you get to let it go.

And you are.

You get to learn how to deal with it, navigate it in your own way with the help of somebody.

It doesn't become trauma.

It's when you're told to be quiet or suck it up or don't worry about it or it could be worse.

I mean, I'm thinking of all these phrases I used to hear as a child when something would happen, that's when it becomes trauma.

Because you put it all behind you and you go, okay, I'm not allowed to look at that.

Well, it's in your body.

And once it's in your body, it's in your energy, it's in your tissues, it's in every cell of your body, those emotions and those feelings.

So you can't.

Yeah, you can't put it away.

Right.

It's the gaslighting.

I love that word.

But isn't that what they did to us?

The gaslighting, that.

Oh, it's, it's in your mind.

It's what, you know, like.

Yeah, saying what can you be stressed about?

You cannot deny someone's feelings like that.

Right.

And that's what, what our parents did was like.

So talk.

Right?

So talk about what?

I mean, I know some parents have never meditated or have like, you picture like the kids, you say, you know, and that's what people think of meditation.

And I want somebody who specializes in meditation for all ages, I'm sure, to shed some light on that.

Because my theory on that is meditation is literally just stillness.

It's being present in the moment.

It's not trying to block out every thought in your mind.

That's not it.

So, you know, I have people that have adhd, some of my clients, and they're like, I can't sit down and meditate.

I'm like, then meditate while you're doing laundry.

Meditate while you're walking your dog.

Like it doesn't always look like the Buddha with the cross legs and the fingers in the air.

That's 100%.

You're right.

You can meditate.

You know what else?

So somebody asked me that the other day.

To singing.

Do you like to sing?

Do you like to dance?

That's also, that's meditating.

That's art.

If you like to paint at the end of the day, what it is is give time for yourself, for your soul, for your expression to discover.

It's a self discovery.

Walking meditations exist.

That's the thing.

I agree with you.

The sitting around, especially for someone who is hyper and it's so, you know, hyperactive and always thinking of what's the next thing.

For me, it's really hard as well for me.

I try.

I. I have licensed in different types of meditations, including.

What is it, tm, Trans, dental meditation.

But yeah, what I've learned is so for what works well for me, what I like is guided meditations.

And again, it's about being kind to yourself.

So let's say if you did a guy that's billions of guided meditations on YouTube.

Just go on YouTube and find something that you like.

I found a couple for me.

I like Louis Hay.

She has a morning meditation that my husband laughed about.

Always made fun of me for listening to it.

I don't care.

It's so good for me.

You know, you have to find something that speaks to you.

That's number one.

And number two, be kind to yourself.

It's okay if you're listening to it and you are not in a deep, you know, because I think that that's the thing, the expectations.

Right.

We want to be like you say, like the Buddha, completely entranced.

Like we.

Right.

You meditate interest.

Nah, nah.

I like her meditation.

It's just about gratitude.

And she enumerates all the things that can.

You can be thankful for.

And it's very silly and it's very profound at the same time.

It's.

And the music is.

Suiting.

Is great.

And then I like Esther Hicks is not for everybody because she channels, you know, but anyway, I. I know that's controversial, but she has also been helpful.

She has a series of meditations, getting to the vortex.

And I used to listen to that as well.

So find what works for you.

Just like you said, if you're iron, nobody irons anymore.

My mother, she irons everything.

But whatever you're doing, it's.

You're meditating more than you think.

Because daydreaming is meditating.

Like I said, singing art, that's a meditative state as well.

And that's when genius happens.

Yesterday I was telling you I had a.

A sad experience.

I was giving a talk about the importance of the intuition.

And I was quoting a quote, quoting Albert Einstein, how he.

He was a big support.

What's.

What.

I'm sorry, I ran out of words.

Sometimes what I want to say, I don't want to say supporter, but he.

He used his intuition more than anything, right?

So his genius didn't come from his brain, his analytical mind.

His genius truly came from his sixth sense, from his intuition.

And he talked about all the time and I printed out and I'm.

Anyway, I was presenting and he said so he was very musical as well and he, he played the violin.

And so how about that?

If a genius like that is telling you this is the way, try it.

Right?

And I say that with anything.

It's.

Nothing hurts to give it a shot.

It can't hurt.

You know, you're not going to hurt yourself.

That's when you talk about the controversial meditations and stuff like that.

I feel like that about like Joe Dispenza who talks about like the quantum world and the quantum realm and, and like I had one girl listen to him and I was like, you got to listen to his morning meditations because they're very good and they start your day off very well.

And she's like, oh, I don't believe what he said.

I'm like, but did it make you better?

Like, did you listen to it and have a better day?

And she's like, well, yeah.

I said, then don't.

Doesn't matter if it, if it works for you and it resonates with you.

And yeah, you don't.

I mean, she's like, well, I don't really understand that whole thing.

I'm like, I don't understand electricity, but I use it.

Right?

Right.

So what is it?

What is it?

What does it look like for you?

With a group of five year olds?

So I come to the class.

Oh, so with a group of five year olds, my class tends to be, I'm going to say about 10 minutes long.

And then we do so that.

Because I was going to.

The teachers really love me, they wanted me to come and I feel that the teacher needed a.

Wanted an hour break.

So I stretch the class to make it last at least 45 minutes.

So we'll sit down and we do.

I use.

I should have brought the book.

There's.

So I'm certified in mindfulness for children to teach children in schools.

So I use their curriculum, which is really good.

But each class is supposed to be no more than 10, 15 minutes.

And they do this on purpose because they know the attention span.

But after I do the mindfulness curriculum, I also add my little thing.

Like I said, I love guided meditations.

And my guided meditations are really jam packed with positive affirmations, positive, you know, all those things that we need to hear on a regular basis and we don't.

And we don't tell ourselves and we should.

And just in case, because kids are being told no, no, no, no, no all the time.

And this is the Age, where the perception of the self is being created.

And it is so easy.

So easily you can think that you're not great, you're not good enough, you're, you know, because all we see is our mistakes.

There's always.

Well, and that's, that's with unfortunately.

And it's not good parents, bad parents, it's just the, it's human nature.

It's quick to jump on the things that are negative and not to jump on the things that are positive.

So you might, a kid might do 15 good things.

But then it's like they do that one wrong thing and they get trouble.

That's all they remember.

Right, Right.

Well, that's just the way when I start going, so, so, okay, so I do the, the mindfulness and then I do a little guided meditation.

And as they get older, like I noticed this with not so much the five year old, but the six year old.

One year, only one year makes a big difference.

It's interesting.

So I start and I do just six minutes and I'm the first one to be so surprised.

It is awesome.

I mean, I love it.

I love what I do and I love to see the reactions and the results and, and I, oh, I, I'm ready to, I'm kind of ready to.

It's being not so successful.

And when I see that it surpassed my expectations, I get so happy because, so I start and I said, okay, it'll be a five, six minute thing.

And the kids are in it.

They're into, Makes no sense to stop at five or six minutes because they're enjoying, they're, they're in, they're in it.

And so we keep going.

And so after this, the meditation, then we chat, we talk about the experience and then they do artwork or journaling and write or about what we just did.

Yeah, I forgot I was going to say something and then I went, no.

I was just curious what it kind of looked like.

So, like, if parents wanted to get into a habit doing this with their children, what are some prompts or what are some tips you could give them?

Because I mean, I would probably say 80% of the parents out there have never even thought about it.

Perfect.

Yes.

Super easy.

If you're a parent and you want to implement it.

Two things.

Number one, know and trust that your child is very wise and they know better, they know what's good for them.

Don't stress, don't force, none of that.

You, I'm going to teach you how to just present the activity and walk away.

So number One thing that I would recommend we start doing, I call this mental hygiene.

So this is just like brushing our teeth.

We brush our teeth every day so they don't rotten and we don't get cavities later on.

Right.

We don't brush our teeth when our teeth are rotten already.

It's a preventive thing.

This is the same.

So because I like the brushing teeth analogy, I suggest in the morning when they get up, since they had to go to the bathroom, everybody goes to the bathroom and they are brushing their teeth.

Look in the mirror.

Teach them to look in the mirror, look into their eyes and say one positive affirmation.

And I have tons of them.

I have.

I mean, I'm always happy to give, you know, give you ideas from everything works out for me to.

I am great.

I'm awesome.

Today's gonna be a great day.

I don't know.

Positive affirmation.

And another thing, if you can have a quiet corner in the house and encourage them to.

Not when they're misbehaving or when they're being too rowdy.

That's a big mistake.

That's not right.

We.

We don't.

This is not a fix.

This is not something.

You know, it's not a fixer.

This.

We want to create a habit.

We want this to be an oasis for the person.

Yeah.

You want it to be a safe place, not a punishment.

Exactly.

So you just put the thing.

I don't know, put a pillow in a corner or something and call it a special corner.

Give it a cute, nice, inviting name your happy place.

A happy place.

Yes.

There you go.

Anything.

And just encourage them.

You can go there and have some time alone.

This is.

And very important.

Don't ask them anything.

Don't ask them how it went, what they felt, how it.

If they want to share, sure, they will come and share.

But let it be.

Let it be a true sacred place and moment for themselves.

And then the number three advice I would give, which is also very easy and it's recommendable to do a gratitude, if they're old enough gratitude journal.

And if not, just check in before you go to bed.

So, you know, you're putting your kids to bed if they're little, probably you read a book, but try to go over the day, and many times we have nothing to be thankful for, or we think there's nothing to be thankful for.

And so I, you know, I'm a big believer in fake it till you make it.

So let's go through everything that we did today.

I got up I had breakfast, I got dressed.

So guess what?

I'm thankful because I had clothes to put on.

I'm thankful because I have breakfast.

I'm thankful that I had papilla, what do you call it?

That I can taste the food.

I am thankful that I have hair that I can brush.

You know, just anything that you did, you can be thankful for.

Right.

And creates a good habit.

So that's it again.

It's not nothing extraordinary.

Nobody wants you to go in a trance and be a master meditator.

Just gratitude, positive affirmations.

And that quiet corner somewhere there that's available if they want it, if they need it.

Yeah, no, I think it's, it's critical.

What about the now?

What about the kids?

Do you have find you struggle with the kids that, you know, like you said, the kids with the two nannies and all that stuff is, was it harder to reach them in the beginning?

Oh no, no, no, no, not at all.

No.

Maybe I was lucky.

I don't know as a whole.

Actually no, I should see, I shouldn't say see.

I'm negating my, my work already.

That's terrible.

Actually.

I went to so many classrooms and so on, different schools as well.

I even thought in Argentina, which is where I'm from and honestly the.

Yeah, it's, it's, it's over 80% of the people in the class of the children get into it.

There's always going to be one or two who have a harder time.

That's like with anything.

Of course, right.

It'll happen.

But no, and I don't think, Yeah, I don't think it was the, the kids with the troubles at home that had a harder time.

Quite the opposite.

That, that's why I'm saying I think, you know, we have to give our soul some credit.

We're not idiots.

We're not here.

Like, I mean sure the person is, is young, it's a child is not fully developed, but this soul is not so young.

So when we talk to them about this, you're really talking to their essence.

You're not talking to the five year old.

Right.

Talking to.

You know, they're infinite, they're wisdom.

Yeah.

They're.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And that's what, I guess what I was wondering, like what is the verbiage, like what is the five year old version of that?

Of like how do you explain that to him them?

Oh, I don't know.

It's not different from what I used to do with grown ups.

I don't know.

That's A good question.

I don't actually, I was asked that before.

I should know how to answer that.

If you go my Web, on my YouTube, I have 300 videos and you can see.

I mean, I don't, I don't say anything different.

Just go within, you know, usually I do my guided meditations.

Take a deep breath.

Picture a white light coming from the top of your head, inside your body.

This light is bringing you wisdom, knowledge and piece.

And the first time I did that, I realized they didn't know what wisdom was.

Some of them, they're five, Right.

So I explained what wisdom was.

I said, okay, I'm good.

So wisdom is intelligence that doesn't come from books.

Intelligence that you have inside.

So inside you're very wise to have wisdom.

You have all this intelligence.

Oh, okay, right.

So whatever, I'll just explain, I'll tell them what it means and we keep going.

Because it's funny, it's.

It's funny when you talk about people that are just like starting to meditate and you're like, well, you have to go in within or go inside.

And they're like, what does that mean?

Like, what does that look like?

You know what I mean?

Like I, it never occurred to me that that's.

But that's the beauty of it with a five year old, right?

Because they don't have.

That's the beauty of it.

As opposed to.

Because I'm having a harder time with adults.

Yeah, always.

I always had a harder time with adults.

And I was just with.

I told you about my sad experience yesterday.

And it makes me so sad.

It really breaks my heart to see adults fighting it and having a really, really hard time.

Like really, like almost aggressive.

Like there's something there, something really bothers them.

And with kids, no, it's easy, smooth, there's no.

Yeah, they're not jaded yet, especially the five year old as they grow older.

Now I had issues with an 11 year old.

Not issues, but again, here's the sadness begins.

So in the same school I used to go, so I went to the five year olds and the six, seven and there was this class, I'm gonna guess they were around 10, 11.

And to see that, you know, to see the change was pretty heartbreaking for me because already at this age I see how they are skeptical, they're becoming.

And I would say, I would say since, you know, you have magic inside of you.

Nah, nah, don't believe that.

Oh boy.

All right, so you know, it's.

Yeah, that was more, that's why I insist.

Parents, please.

Five year old, that's the sweet spot.

And if they start at 5, they understand, they will embrace it.

They see how powerful it is, how delicious it is to go within and connect with their inner guidance.

And then when they are 10, 11, 12, 20, they are not probably they, they won't turn out to be so jaded and jaded that.

Jaded is actually a really good word to use because.

And do you, do you give them anything to send home, like to explain the process with the parents?

Because I feel like parents especially busy.

Busy.

I'm just gonna say busy.

I'm not gonna say neglectful.

I'm not gonna say any of that.

To follow through to, to let the kid experience it and not shut it down.

Because that's, I feel like in this day and age you're going to get a lot of that.

You're going to get a lot of that poo, poo.

That's not the way it is.

That's not the way life is.

You're going to hear a lot of that.

They're going to hear a lot of that.

Yes, sadly, yes.

Well, that's why I'm in a mission.

I mean, if we could do this in every school, if, if somebody would listen, if they could understand how important.

I keep saying just five minutes a day.

And yeah, the skepticism with the parents, that's, that's a big roadblock.

That's a big, that's a big one.

And that really is with anything.

You know, I, I have a book called Surviving Alcoholic Parents.

But it's like, how do you get it to the kids?

You're not going to give it to the parents to give to the kids.

You're not gonna, you know, that was my, like, how do you, like you said, how do you get them on board?

Because it's the misbelievers and it's the neglectful people and it's those people that have these children.

Like, it's like, you know, so it's like you have to get it across the board.

So I understand your frustration with that for sure.

Yeah, it's very sad.

It's very sad.

It's very sad because I see how kid, the kids are truly open, ready and willing to receive and they want it.

Like they're hungry for it, they're thirsty for it.

So like I said, all you had to do is just offer it.

If you're a parent, open the, open the door and see what happens.

And when you talk to your kids, just talk to that side, that part of Them know the person, know the personality.

There's, there's another's layers to us.

Right.

There's that part that listens differently and.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

And trust.

Trust.

Yeah.

Yep.

And that's a, that's a big one because I think like in this day and I mean we all have trouble trusting our instincts.

It's, it's because we've been told not to.

No, it's, it's.

Yeah, we, we in our education.

It's like I was just so.

I have a funny.

So I am very intuitive.

I'm very, I should be, I should pat myself in the back and be proud of myself for all my accomplishments.

And I, I have my intuition to thank 100% for all of it.

But of course I'm still a person.

I'm human.

And it's very funny how I used to live in New York and we have subways and you know, often times there's two subways.

One is, goes fast, it's a express, which means it jumps stations and the other one goes local.

So I'm at the station and they both come in and I'm instinctively like knee jerk reaction.

I was going through the look to the local train and I'm going and sitting in the local and then I see the express pulling up and like, oh, what am I doing stupid?

Let's go to the express.

Why?

Logic says obviously I go to the express and I'm going to skip three or four stops.

Duh.

And of course I do that.

And what, of course, you know what happens next.

I'm sitting in the A train supposed to go express and then of course that stops and where there five minutes.

Meanwhile I see the other one going by.

I could have gone a lot faster if I went with my intuition.

My God.

Right?

And this happens so many times because intuition is very soft and the intellect overpowers constantly.

So that's why I, you know, I encourage people to nurture it, pay attention to it, listen to yourself, listen to your heart.

Yep.

Present.

Be mindful when we are there, when we are in this, this relaxed state and state of self love, self acceptance and self knowing.

And this thing of knowing things will work out for me.

I am protected.

I am.

Everything's okay.

And then you can trust that little.

Soft inner, that little nudge.

Yep, absolutely that.

And that's a very, very, very simple way of putting that.

So thank you.

Because it is, it is that nudge that you learn to ignore that because your rational brain kicks in and goes, no, dummy, you should need to do this, I've been told this and that, but it's kind of like I don't know why I do it.

But you know, it's like you can walk by something 10 times on the floor and the 11th time you pick it up.

And I'd have had someone at work do that to me and be like, you walked by that 10 times?

Why did you pick it up the 11th time?

And it's like, because I just had this feeling that if I didn't, something bad was going to happen.

And so it's like, and those, you have those things all the time where it's like you get these little nudges and then you're like, there's something's wrong with that.

And especially parents, if you get that little inkling of, oh, something doesn't feel right, by all means, it doesn't.

There's some reason for it.

Yes.

And yeah, we're the only animals who ignore our instincts, our intuition.

All the other rest of the animal world, they know what to do.

They go where their instinct tells them.

They're not speculating, they're not thinking, maybe I won't migrate this time.

Maybe.

Exactly.

No birds go, well, you know, I wonder.

My body's saying fly, but maybe I'll just stick it out for the winter.

Exactly.

We are the only ones, we're literally the only species that, huh, to try to make this work.

Whatever we thought, this is what I want to do.

Ah, boy.

Yeah, I mean, I mean you can watch it with your, I mean, parents if you're out there listening and you question it with your children, watch it with your animals.

Why an animal?

I mean, my husband said the other day he was home and it was storming so bad and if the road was actually flooding in front of our house and my husband said every time he went near the door, that dog would bark and growl and just would not let him near the door.

You know, but what do people do?

Oh, it's just water.

You know, the dog knows.

Stay the hell inside.

It's not good out there.

A hundred percent, yes.

Oh my God, I have so many anecdotes with dogs protecting you.

And oh, so many times, and I said, I've grown up.

I was gonna say as a person, like, oh, what's wrong?

Stop.

Be quiet.

I don't know.

I don't get it.

I don't get it.

What's wrong?

Yeah.

And what do they always say?

You know, dogs have good instincts, we have good instincts we just don't listen to.

Right.

Well, because we learn to ignore it.

Yes, yes.

And the worse, you know, like, the less support.

Like I said, if you're a parent, you're out there listening.

The less supportive you are to children to listen to those instincts, the worse it's going to be when they grow up because they will not trust their instincts at all, period.

And then they'll end up making really bad decisions.

Yes, well, that's why.

Yeah.

This is why I am including a little, I don't know, you know, I'm careful not to sign sound too woo woo like you said.

I'm shocked that someone doesn't like Joe Dispenser because I think he's pretty scientific in his take, right?

He, he is.

But I think the whole concept of quantum anything woos.

People like it just like woo.

You know, they're like, oh, no, no, no, no.

You know, like where he just.

The whole concept of the quantum of there's no really realm of time and space.

And you know that what you say right now is determining your future because you're already there.

Like those kind of things people like, oh, no, stop.

Just stop it.

But.

Well, I encourage to develop the sixth sense as much as possible because it is there.

We have it.

And as a mother, you have to know, you know, it.

What do you think?

You know, we, it.

Just, just use it.

Let's use it more and let's enhance it, emphasize it instead of ignoring it and think, oh, it's a coincidence or whatever.

But you know, we, we do this all the time.

I hear people, oh, I had a feeling or I had a.

You know, when you like someone or you don't like someone.

Yeah, that's your, your intuition.

I, I 100% believe we have sixth sense.

And for some reason, because, you know, there's always someone has to ruin things for us.

And maybe because of the occult and the, all the, the talking with the spirits and this and that and the mediumship and whatnot, then it all gets.

You know, it gets, yeah, it gets all mushed up with the woo and the stuff.

This is just as real as the nose in the middle of your face.

We all have one, right?

Everybody can smell.

If you have to explain to someone, an ET comes in and ask you what is smell?

What do you mean?

How do you smell?

How do you do that?

I could explain.

I don't know.

I just, I can smell things.

I don't know.

This is the same.

We have that sense.

And how is it?

You don't need to explain it.

You don't need to we don't need scientists to give us permission to have an instinct and to have a sixth sense and intuition.

We have.

I think one of my last episodes was just on intuition.

I think we did the whole thing on intuition.

So this will be a good piggyback.

I'll have to refer back, figure out what episode it is and put it in the show notes to go back to.

To kind of do the.

Because you work with.

Mostly with the children and then that's working with an adult.

But literally it makes huge sense either way.

But I think people miss the boat on really nurturing that with their children while they're young.

That's where I think the big.

Where we're missing.

We're stifling that intuition.

So young.

Yes, we're stifling it.

When they're still young enough to believe what we're saying that we're saying.

That doesn't matter.

That doesn't count.

That's nonsense and that's wrong.

It's almost criminal when you think about it.

What are you doing?

Shutting it down.

And again, it is gaslighting.

Because if I'm telling you I see this, I perceive this, I'm feeling this.

All right?

It's valid.

Even if I don't get it.

I don't see the same.

You know, I don't have the same experience.

But that's all right.

You go with it.

You don't have to.

Yeah, just to teach them.

You're all knowing you have everything you need.

It's inside of you, and that's a safe place.

Anytime you go, you don't know what to do.

You're stressed.

You're nervous about a test or an audition or a tryout at school or even.

I mean, social.

Social anxiety is huge.

And I was a popular kid, so I always.

So most of my work is.

Obviously everything we do is based on our life experience.

Right.

And for me, I was like, you know, I grew up with like, regular, normal parents, seemingly a healthy, happy environment.

And yet I. I have my.

My issues.

I have my.

We all do.

Right, Right.

So.

So, you know, objectively speaking, if someone who was popular and well liked and all that had the.

The problems that I had, the anxiety, the fears, the.

That I'm not going to be liked or.

And why.

Yeah, partly my mother and her, you know, she.

I was five years old, she told me I was a mean girl.

I was.

How can kids like me?

I'm so mean.

And I'm so rude because, yeah, I was irritable.

I was a bit irritable.

But you know when your mother tells you that you're no good at 5 years old, that's, that's pretty, pretty harsh.

That determines that's.

Yeah.

My entire life, it was my six, my seventh.

Every birthday I have, I had huge anxiety thinking nobody's gonna show up, nobody's gonna come to my birth.

It's horrible as a six year old, as a seven year old, it's a horrible feeling to have.

I was doing that to myself.

Nobody did that to me.

The kids did like me.

I had good friends, I was well liked.

Where did that come from?

I don't know.

But I felt that way and this is why I'm doing this today.

I wouldn't want anybody to feel this way is gratuitous.

Gratuitous.

It's unnecessary.

Absolutely.

We do to ourselves.

Absolutely.

Well, thank you so much for coming on.

This was super fun.

So if people want to work with you, where do they find you?

What's the quickest place?

Oh, very easy.

My website is my name.

So veronicamoya M O Y a dot com and there.

And if you google my name, Veronica Moya, you'll find me.

You'll see the YouTube channel and everything else.

Okay.

And I'll put all that in the show notes.

But before you go, first of all, thank you for coming on.

It was super fun.

And before you go, give the listeners one last piece of advice or if you could give them one piece of advice, what would it be?

I would give you my absolute most favorite affirmation that I want everybody to say to themselves.

Two things if I'm talking to grown ups, one, I approve of myself.

I approve of myself a hundred times a day, as many times as possible, I approve of myself.

And number two, this is my personal favorite.

Everything works out for me.

Everything works out for me.

I find it to be very powerful.

Everything works out for me.

Because why wouldn't it?

You decide.

You are the boss of you, you create.

So absolutely.

And I'm writing these down so I will put that in the show notes too.

So everybody that's listening out there, when you forget what you said, it's I approve of myself and everything works out for me.

And say it different times throughout the day too.

I mean most important, absolute most important is first thing in the morning.

But then your body also, you do a mental reset about 2 o', clock, 4 o', clock, somewhere in there and then you do another one between seven and nine, your, your brain resets literally.

So those are good times.

If you're going to pick three times during the day.

Those are the times and use them.

But thank you so much, Veronica, for coming on.

Thank you.

It was awesome.

Yes, it was.

Thank you.

Thank you.

You are as well.

And I love the rainbow.

So again, for the people that are not listen, watching, just listening.

She's sitting behind a beautiful rainbow, which I love.

But thank you, everybody.

You all have a blessed week and we will see you back next week.

Bye.

Bye.