Dealing With Metabolic Chaos? Don't Treat the Symptoms, Treat the Cause

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Welcome to the D shift podcast, where we provide inspiration,

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motivation and education to help you transition from the

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challenges of divorce to discover the freedom and ability

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to live life on your own terms. Are you ready? Let's get the

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shift started. Hello, and welcome to another episode of

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the D shift. And in order to get this segment started out, or

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this episode started out, I need to tell you all a story. I was

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in an event about two years ago, an online event, a zoom event,

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and there was like, a couple of 100 people on this event. I

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think it was actually Jay besets JV ology event, which doesn't

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matter what it was, but it's a group for entrepreneurs. And so

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I get this breakout room with this woman. And I'm like, Geez,

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that name sounds familiar. And gosh, that face looks familiar.

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And we got to talk. And sure enough, I put something in

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there. They said, Put one thing in that nobody knows about your

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or nobody in the room knows about you. And I said, Well, I

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used to play women's rugby. And this woman in the room puts in

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this Well, I think you put in I used to be a bartender at Rugby

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events. And, lo and behold, we got to talking and Lana Kirtley,

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who is my wonderful guests. And I actually were in agriculture

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at the University of Alberta. And we knew each other from our

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universities. Some talk about a small world. So yeah, everything

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comes full circle. So 30 years later, we randomly connect on a

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zoom call with people from all over the world, we're on the

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call, and we got stuck in a breakout room together and kind

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of discovered each other.

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It's all good. It is a universal thing. We're supposed to stay

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connected in some way,

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shape, or form is so weird. So so with that long story out of

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the way, I want to introduce you to Lana curtly, and aside from

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going to university together, we have bumped into each other and

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at several live events. And I want to let everybody know a

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little bit about you, Lana, and then you can take the rest away.

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So llama is a Functional Diagnostic Nutrition nutrition

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practitioner, and I had to I had to look down to make sure I

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didn't mess that what up. And Lana works with mostly women. Am

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I right with that?

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Yep, correct. Okay.

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So why don't you tell us a little bit about your area of

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expertise, because I know some of the work that you do in your

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Facebook group, really supporting and helping women on

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their health journey. So tell us a little bit about your area of

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expertise and how you got how you got here.

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The journey, the journey Well, and that's part of empowering

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health journeys is enabling it. It's become my jam, to help

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others to empower others on their health journey,

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predominantly health journey. I'm a good cheerleader on the

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sidelines for anybody when they're on the on their journey

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of wellbeing and business and just the journey of life and

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loving it and supporting it. So yeah, it's been a it's been a

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interesting hop, skip and jump and more hop skips along the

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way, in terms of the foundational belief that this

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has always been my responsibility. my health, my

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well being has always been my responsibility no matter what

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I've done in life. Whether it's working admin at a local

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manufacturing plant site, or whether it's doing tests for a

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local oilfield company, because I live in rural Alberta and

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absolutely love it. But I've also always acknowledged that,

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with the beauty of rural living, comes limited access at time.

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And that's been the beauty as we've aged, gracefully Muay Thai

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is safe for both of us is that the access to information has

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gotten huge, and it can get overwhelming. And I want people

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to understand that there is help and support out out here out

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there. And that as well being as well intentioned your local

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medical system might be that might not be their zone of

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genius, and you need to understand what their zone of

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genius their zone of interest as it's kind of like saying, Well,

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I've got a problem with my right shoulder and you're going to a

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medical doctor whose primary interest is delivering babies.

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He Yep, but there's no congruent, say there. And you

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need to acknowledge what their specialty is, unfortunately,

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well, we say well go to your family doctor first. Well, if

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it's not your family doctor zone of genius, you need to take the

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reins and manage your own journey as compared to always

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handing it over. So the first one that I always talk about

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within this process is I want each person to decide for

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themselves, that they are worthy. That that which you

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love, you treat differently, is that not true for all of us?

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Yeah, if we love something, whether it's materialistic, or

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whether it's another human being, that which we love our

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children, that which we love you treat differently? Well, first

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and foremost, make sure that you're loving this. And I

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understand for any woman that's gone through divorce, that that

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self worth can crumble. But that's the primary oxygen mask

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you have to you, if you want good stuff to come into your

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world, you have to be okay with yourself, you have to love

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yourself enough to say I am worthy of health, I am worthy of

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joy. And when you believe that and step into that, and whether

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it's washing your hands, and that's something I always

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advocate is every time you wash your hands, public bathroom,

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private bathroom, whatever, you'll look yourself in the eye

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and go, You are worthy. And I love you, I know you've got

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this, whatever the hell excuse my grammar storm is going on in

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life. We're okay with that here. Whatever storm is going on, that

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one stops and acknowledges that you were worthy of love of

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vivacious living, that's first and foremost. Because then you

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will treat you differently. And stand in that space of I can do

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this, I will figure it out. And I will find the coach, I will

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find whether it's a health coach, or whether it's a fitness

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coach, or whether it's a financial coach, or whether it's

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somebody through a bank that can coach me or a lawyer or a Marty

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that can help me with divorce and coming up the other side of

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it with grace and dignity and self love. Yeah, that which you

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love you treat differently. So that's always my primary first

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step in journeys, is that one loves themselves. So

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I think that's really you know,

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that's the first one going up.

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Thank you for pointing that out. Because I think a lot of a lot

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of women, especially if their divorce has been ongoing, or

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they've kind of you know, it's been a long separation or a long

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decision to get to the divorce, you're just so beat down. And

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it's hard to or if they have kids, you know, their energy is

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all put to helping their kids through the divorce. And that's

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super important. But I love that that oxygen mask if you can't

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help yourself, you can't help your kids. So yeah, I like that.

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And that was part of my journey is that standing in the middle

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of my living room. Just having lost it on my son, who I'm gonna

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speculate at that point in time was probably eight, nine years

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old. And the realization of how much I disliked myself that I

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wasn't playing nice that I was showing him what barely

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surviving looked like. And I wanted to be I won't use the

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epitome, but a good example of a woman that could strive, yeah,

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that could stand on her own two feet, and thrive versus barely

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surviving. And that was one of those, you know, you they talked

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about drawing the line in the sand and saying no more not

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going there. That was one of my lines in the sense is to say, I

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gotta figure this out in some way, shape or form. Because I

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want a great relationship, not a mum relationship. He's now in

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his 20s I want to be able to make that journey of he knows

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who his mom is. He knows. He knows I'm there for him, that

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I'll also tease them and hold them accountable. And that I'm

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good with me. I like being a woman and that I am worthy.

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Yeah. And that was

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and being and being healthy enough to enjoy life with with

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your kids in their 20s 30s 40s. I mean, if you're not healthy,

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what's the I shouldn't say what's the point that's wrong

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because some people have have health issues that they cannot

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control. So I'm not talking about people who I'm talking

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about just letting yourself go and not focusing on your health,

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which can contribute to a lot of disease, a lot of chronic pain

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and all that kind of good stuff. So we do have some control over

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our health.

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Oh, well, then that's something that's part of this first aside,

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is acknowledging that there is a difference between genetics and

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destiny, it is destined genetically, that I will have

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blue eyes. It is not genetically predisposed genetically destiny,

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that I have diabetes, or that I have. What else is on my list at

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the top of my head arthritis, or those sorts of things? 95% of

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diseases are based upon the environment, we're predisposed,

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we might have the gene for it. Right? But we are, but 95% is

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what I'm eating, what I'm thinking, what I'm living in,

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that creates whether that manifests or not. And some

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people say, Well, no, all of my family have diabetes, or

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cardiovascular disease is because you're eating like all

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the rest of your family. But if you make the choice, that that's

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not your journey, it doesn't have to be your journey. You can

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be the one that says, No, I, I am worth way more than accepting

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diabetes, that I'm worth more than the past or the the glasses

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of wine every night or the bread constantly. I am worth more than

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that. Because that's the journey that I do not want to take.

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Yeah, it's interesting. I had a guest on a few weeks ago. Dr.

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trir, Wyler, Dr. Ginni, and she talked about poison in it, you

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either make up everything you eat is either one decision, it's

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either healthy, or it's poison, and you make the choice. And

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then you do it. And if you want to have that glass of wine,

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that's fine. Nobody's saying don't have it. Heaven forbid, I

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would never say no, don't, or beer or whatever you want. But

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you have to recognize that if you make that a habit, there are

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consequences to that. And it may not be instantaneous.

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And when we go ahead, you know, I

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just got, we got a bit of a delay, and that's, that's the

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internet's fault. Not either one of our fault. Yeah,

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that's fine. Go ahead. I know. But it's recognizing that, do I

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want to be a donut? Or do I want to be a carrot? Do I want to be

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a slice of bread? Or do I want to be a apple or chunk of celery

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or what because what I'm eating builds this vessel. And so I

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used to always tease. We already know that I've got a 20 plus

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year old son. I used to say to him, do you put junk fuel in

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your Lamborghini? Because he's a car kid. If he still is, yeah,

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always well, but he loves that stuff. And they used to look at

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me. And he goes, Well, no, you want the best fuel? And I'm

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like, stop the junk food. And eat the good stuff first, and

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then do if that's a dessert. That's a dessert. I'm fine with

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that. But that is not your full meal. Yeah. And so yeah, it's

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all part of that. But yeah, first and foremost, you need to

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decide and then becomes a case of discovering that. Do you want

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symptoms and bandages? Or is your goal real healing? Because

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when you decide that you will discover what is root, and not

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just go to the doctor and say, I have this symptom? What can you

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give me for it? Because I always left? Marty, I know you're down

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in the US. But you did us live here in Calgary, Alberta,

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Canada. Yeah. That. Then here in Canada, and I don't watch.

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Sorry, I'll rephrase that. I watch very little TV. But I

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laugh when I look at pharmaceutical ads because

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Canada gives so much US TV stations. I'm like, do you

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really want to take a chance on any of those symptoms that come

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about because of your drug? Yeah. And I'm like, yeah, no,

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we're good. Like, they were I don't know. I don't want that.

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Thank you very much this explosive diarrhea. Really?

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Really? Yeah. Yeah. I don't think that's a good quality

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option. But that's, unfortunately, our medical

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system. And I do appreciate it. There's a lot, I do appreciate

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it. But do you want the bandage? Or do you want to get lower? Or

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as another phrase would be lower into this situation? Or further

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upstream of this symptom? And figuring out what's really going

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on? And how do I serve and support way upstream so that the

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water flow just gets cleaner and cleaner and healthier and

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healthier. So we know that water streams way upstream up in the

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mountains are really high quality, typically water. Right,

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let's make sure we get this high upstream as we can to figure out

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what's going on for chaos. So that everything just tumbles or

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flows. It's such a lovely because we're healing, not just

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putting another bandage on the Dyker. Here's one finger over

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here. And here's another finger over here, and I'll put it over

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there. And it's like, nobody, right.

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And that always kind of scares me because, and again, I've

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experienced the Canadian and we're not here to compare

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medical says Know what I do, I would one day we'll have to,

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we'll have to sit and compare one day, but but one of the

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things I do know is that it's not uncommon here for people, my

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age, I mean, I'm I'm pushing 60, it's not uncommon for people to

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have, you know, four or five specialists, a primary care

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doctor, and then they have like three or four other

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practitioners they're seeing and talking about this on another

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episode where when it gets to the point that you go to the

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doctors, and it's like they give you a page of all the other

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medical professionals, you're taking all the medications,

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you're taking all the symptoms you've had. And if you're

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fortunate, I guess, like me, and I can go in there and say, No, I

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don't have any symptoms. No, I'm not taking any medication.

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People are kind of like, well, how can that be? Because it's

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just everybody here is everybody is so focused on eliminating the

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symptoms and not dealing with the issue. And, you know,

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obviously, genetics does play in this, as we've already talked

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about, but where do you see? Why do you see why do you think it's

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so easy to just deal with the symptoms? Why do you think

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people do that?

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Because it's a fast, it's a fast answer. But in all honesty,

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working with me as a health, Functional Diagnostic,

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nutritional, it's not, I fully admit, you got to decide that

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you're in 95%. Plus, you have to make that commitment that you

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don't want this, my primary zone of interest is adrenal fatigue

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or someone No, it is chronic fatigue, I now just call it

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metabolic chaos. It's just a wheelbarrow coming out of the

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barn of situations and symptoms that we need to address and deal

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with. And I actually ironically, had the conversation with a

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chiropractor. Why do we buy in? What Where did we get the

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training, that just dealing with the symptom is all we need to do

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and it becomes back to this. I don't want to do a bunch of hard

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work. I don't want to have to think about it. So I'll just

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remember to take my pill. Yeah, well, I can in no way shape or

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form. You would think based upon some of the tests that I do that

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I really don't mind doing Dr. bloodred taking my own, I don't

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like it, but I do it because I want the answers behind it. So I

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do it. I utilize my son as best as I can to help me with some of

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that stuff. But it's that whole idea of I want long term. I'm an

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old young mum, I want to go hiking with my grandbabies. Even

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if they don't come for another 15 plus years. I want to go

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hiking with my grandbabies. I won't do it won't be able to do

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it. If I decide to I'll just take another pill. Yeah. I knew

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that I didn't want to sleep on the couch, run him to soccer and

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come back and have asleep on the coach because of a migraine. And

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then run get them I wanted to be on the sidelines and cheering

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and laughing and visiting. I wanted to I live less than two

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hours from the Rocky Mountains. I want to go for height I want

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to go for motorbike rides. I want to go paddling, whether

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it's Kayak or paddle boards or whatever, I want those things as

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long as possible into my senior years, yeah, well, that means a

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deal with me now, versus taking another bandage another

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prescription. And I'm more willing to put my money into

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supplements than I am to rely on the medical system to cover my

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prescriptions. Yeah, yeah, it's just the way it is, if you like,

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or if you'd like a medical plan that just covers your

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prescriptions, I'm not your thing. And I know that. But if

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you're willing to step into your own power, then don't worry

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about the medical, just invest in the proper supplements and

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invest in the coach that will help get you upstream and get

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things cleaned up so that you can go hike upstream.

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Yeah, and I think one of the things that I was reading, and I

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don't remember the exact numbers, and I'm sure they're

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different based on where you are, and I know, there's people

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listening from all different countries here, but one of the

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things that I do know is that they're talking about the

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average age of people that are going into assisted living

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facilities, or that needs some kind of home health care

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support. You know, it used to be people, you know, would would

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not necessarily need that until they were into their, like,

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early 70s, mid 70s. And up, now, it's dropped down to the point

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where I think the average age for people getting these kinds

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of services is somewhere around 63 to 67. That's scary. Um, you

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know, that there's that many people that are still, I still

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consider 63 to 67. Pretty young age,

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that's just around the corner. I know. Just around the corner.

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You know, and I did, I I'm with you. And I think one of the

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other things, too, is Lana, I think people, people want to

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have somebody tell them, Go ahead, you don't need to change

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your lifestyle. You don't need to change your food, you don't

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need to, you know, you don't need to moderate anything, just

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go Go live your life, and we can fix it on the other end. And I

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think that's part of the reason to,

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yeah, and that's a really sad aspect. And, and there's some

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amount of compassion within that phrasing. I get that because

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home, oh, I'm gonna say 2530 years ago, how much hoopla was

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there when a doctor, I just recalled this? The doctor said,

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No, I will no longer treat you because you refuse to quit

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smoking. Right? And part of me is laughing and going. He as a

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doctor was trying to impart how important it was. And all the

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hoopla. While it's not that simple. Well, he has the right

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to say no. And now we've kind of created this. But let's

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sugarcoat it. Don't worry about it. Miss Jones. It's all fine

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and dandy. Just come back and see me and I'll find another

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pill for you. Right. Right. Part of part of me says, who's paying

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the bill from the pharmaceutical. And you know

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what part of the lesson says, If I've got investments that are in

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pharmaceuticals, I want to return on my investment. So what

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is the pharmaceutical company? Do they go on for their promote

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their drug, off label use on label use? Let's find more uses

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for that sucker. So that and that's where I've decided that

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my investments need to pull back. But yeah, it's a case of

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they're not trying to do any wrong, but they're not gonna

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stand there and fight with you anymore. It's kind of like

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beating your head against a brick wall. Right? It feels good

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when you stop if you don't want to change. Okay, come and see me

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when you're not wanting another pill. Oh, you want to change?

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Let's have a hardcore discussion over it. So

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yeah, yeah. And I really think you and I think that sometimes

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these conversations aren't easy, because there's always, you

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know, you don't know who's listening. You're not really

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sure what everybody's situation is so. But I do think that like

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you said, I mean, there's a lot of research now that pre

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diabetes and diabetes can take two can be reversed by most

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people.

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Ms. Ms can be reversed. I know I know it. But you gotta decide

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that you're worth it. And that you will do the what I'll call

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the protocol to reverse that and to get healthy, and not just

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short term. You decide that it's a lifestyle thing.

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Yeah. Yeah. And I think To a lot of, and I'm going to just jump

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in here. And, again, we're just about out of time. But it, I

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think that if you make that, you know, if you wait until years

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and years and years into a chronic condition, and then try

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to reverse, you've got a way bigger mountain to climb, then

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if you start doing it, like you get the diagnosis, or you

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recognize the symptoms, or you, you know, you reach out, you're

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not feeling well, you're not really, there's nothing really

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identified wrong with you, but you know, something's not right.

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If you can reach out and get started, then you have much

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faster and better results than if, you know, if you've been say

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10 or 15 years diagnosed with a condition and then trying to

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make the changes, right?

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Well, I have an easy analogy is a leak in the roof of your home?

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Do you wait until the ceiling is crumbling around you. And

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there's termites and there's bugs and there's rotten and

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there's mold to try and fix a situation or you go there's a

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frickin leak in there and fixing it now, not ignoring it, not not

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ignoring it. But I'm fixing that now. And I if it costs 100

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bucks, now, that's saving me hundreds of 1000s of dollars in

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another 20 years because I ignore it. And it's it's way

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easier to make a little adjustment now in your lifestyle

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and decide I'm no longer eating bread, I'm only going to eat it

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at a special occasion or the processed sugars or a little

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little to a lot less wine or whatever the case might be. So

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that one can have that longevity. If a glass of wine is

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worth more than your health than playing on the floor with your

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grandbabies. Okay, that's what it is. But in my world, heck no.

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I want to go skiing with my grandbabies. Yeah.

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So Lana, you've covered a lot of information. And I think I think

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you've spoken really, honestly authentically from the heart and

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from your knowledge and expertise in this area. What do

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you want people to remember when they go away from this

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conversation and go about their day?

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Oh, here's a quote or an analogy. Change can be scary.

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But you know what's really scarier? is allowing fear to

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stop you from growing, evolving and progressing. Step into this

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scary step into the fear because there's a vivacious life on the

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other side of all of that.

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I love I love that vivacious life. I love the thought and the

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whole imagery of that. Lana, if people want to learn more about

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what you do, or maybe want to work with you, what's the best

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way to reach out?

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I'm empowering health journeys. Lamma curtly. Either way works

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absolutely and for those that are listening on podcast, Lana's

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LA and a really nice and simple curtly is a little more funky.

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Que IRTLEY. I'm on Facebook, I'm on LinkedIn, empowering health

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journeys. It's, it's at the heart of who I am. It it costs

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nothing for a discussion, please know that a discussion is always

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free and available to say, Hey, I heard you on Marty's podcast.

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I want to better understand what's going on. Great. Let's

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have that conversation. Let me understand here's some free

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column quizzes for lack of a better but everybody knows quiz

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or survey. And you can answer that and that helps give me some

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idea of whether I can likely help you but first and foremost

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know that you're worthy. Yeah, always, always always

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wonderful. Lana, thank you so much for being on the podcast. I

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know you've shared a wealth of information. And I just want to

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