March 30, 2023

From Being Incarcerated To Helping Others On The Road to Recovery

From Being Incarcerated To Helping Others On The Road to Recovery
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Season 1

Learn from this guest that your past mistakes don’t define you

About the Guest:

Sean is a US Army Veteran of 12 and a half years. After medically retiring Sean was incarcerated and entered into a therapeutic court program in Alaska that helped him achieve sobriety. Upon graduating, Sean began to give back to his recovery community by starting a processing group for veterans who are in or are alumni of the therapeutic courts in Alaska. Sean because peer support certified in the state of Alaska. Sean currently lives in West Virginia where he continues to give back to his recovery community. Sean is also a podcaster and is the host of Sitting with Sean, where he interviews people who are in recovery for mental health and addiction.

About the Host:

I am Saylor Cooper, Owner and host of Real Variety Radio as well as the Hope Without Sight Podcast. I am from the Houston, Texas area and am legally blind which is one of the main reasons why I am hosting this show surrounding this topic , to inspire others by letting them know that they can live their best life and reach their highest potential. I am beginning my journey in Entrepreneurship to overcome the challenges of making a living with a disability and to demonstrate that it indeed it is possible by putting in hard work! Of course I am not sure what is in store, but I am extremely excited for what is to come. My future goals include getting booked to speak on stages and write a collaborative book with my podcast guests.

Contact card, which includes all of my website and socials:

https://ovou.me/livefasetiyaceh

About the Co-host:

My name is Matthew Tyler Evans and I am from the Northeast Texas area. I am blind like Saylor is and we have the same retinal condition. I decided to join Saylor‘s podcast because I have a strong interest in teaming up with him and I think together, we can inspire the world with others with disabilities.

 

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Transcript
Saylor Cooper:

Hello, everybody. Welcome to another episode of

Saylor Cooper:

Hope Without Sight with your host Saylor, Cooper, and

Tyler Evans:

this is your co host, Tyler Evans.

Saylor Cooper:

That's right, we're on episode 30. And we're

Saylor Cooper:

live streaming on Facebook. Wow, we can tell the episodes since

Saylor Cooper:

we started. So on this episode, we're featuring a former veteran

Saylor Cooper:

in the military, who was recently discharged. Well, who

Saylor Cooper:

was discharged I just showed he'll tell us more. And after

Saylor Cooper:

that, he was incarcerated. And, of course, even though he made

Saylor Cooper:

mistakes, he is helping others in recovery. Please welcome Sean

Saylor Cooper:

Young Sean, how're you doing?

Sean Young:

I'm doing great. How are you doing?

Saylor Cooper:

Doing? Well, welcome. Thank you for being on

Saylor Cooper:

the help of our site.

Sean Young:

Thank you for having me.

Saylor Cooper:

Yes, you bet. So. So get us started. Obviously,

Saylor Cooper:

you've overcome a lot of challenges in life. You were

Saylor Cooper:

recently in the military. And then something happened and you

Saylor Cooper:

were incarcerated. Tell us more about that.

Sean Young:

Oh, so man, life is crazy. Life is crazy. You know,

Sean Young:

one moment you you're living a life full of purpose, doing

Sean Young:

things that that you're trying to do pretty much your whole

Sean Young:

life and then next purposeless and you have no guide, no path

Sean Young:

in life. And that's where I was in my life. I got medically

Sean Young:

retired from the Army in 2019 for traumatic brain injury. So

Sean Young:

just a lot of concussions, just a bunch of concussions

Sean Young:

compounded over time. And I got out and I, you know, I, I fell

Sean Young:

into active addiction, I started drinking a lot and intestinal

Sean Young:

with some different drugs and life became unmanageable really

Sean Young:

quick, really, really fast. And I got to a point in my act of

Sean Young:

addiction that I was drinking every day, I would go to work.

Sean Young:

And I'd come back home, and on the way home, I'd pick up a

Sean Young:

bottle and drink it and do it all over again. Next day. Life

Sean Young:

Life is just rough, you know?

Tyler Evans:

Wow. Like so

Tyler Evans:

I couldn't hear you. What was that?

Sean Young:

Oh, no, I thought somebody was gonna jump in.

Tyler Evans:

And yeah. What started your addiction, like,

Tyler Evans:

what started you to just drink and stuff? Was it a life

Tyler Evans:

altering decision on retirement?

Sean Young:

Well, no. So so I kind of have always been an

Sean Young:

alcoholic since the age of 18. When I first joined the army,

Tyler Evans:

okay.

Sean Young:

And I come from a history of, of addicts and

Sean Young:

alcoholics. So my dad and my mom are both out alcoholics and

Sean Young:

addicts, and before them, their parents before them, their

Sean Young:

parents. So I come from a lineage of generational trauma

Sean Young:

of addiction.

Tyler Evans:

Yeah,

Sean Young:

and so I kind of picked up the, the habit along

Sean Young:

the way and thought I could control it and thought that, you

Sean Young:

know, I had it, I had it under, under, under my thumb. And in

Sean Young:

reality, it had me on her nasty grips, and I, I could see myself

Sean Young:

falling into old habits all the time. And, you know, I test that

Sean Young:

with some some harder drugs and, and the alcoholic mindset and me

Sean Young:

said, Oh, I don't want to do those because I don't want to

Sean Young:

get addicted to them. But I was already an alcoholic. And I just

Sean Young:

couldn't see the signs.

Tyler Evans:

Yeah,

Tyler Evans:

yeah.

Sean Young:

And the fact that I had, I had gotten medically

Sean Young:

separated from the army and I thought I could control it. And

Sean Young:

I thought this was the way of life was kind of like ushered in

Sean Young:

a lot of of the more heavier drinking that I did after I got

Sean Young:

out of the army. And by December that year, I ended up in jail. I

Sean Young:

got drunk one night and I laid hands on on a roommate at least

Sean Young:

caught on me got charged with and charge of what assault

Saylor Cooper:

OhOH So you lay hands on Olympus so you became

Saylor Cooper:

like violent because they are alcohol.

Unknown:

of

Sean Young:

Alcohol was was, was definitely one of the one of the

Sean Young:

reasons why I got violent. I also suffer from real bad anger.

Tyler Evans:

Wow.

Sean Young:

Yeah, as a form of, of my PTSD and and the traumatic

Sean Young:

brain injury. It was harder to regulate those emotions and

Sean Young:

really understand why I was angry all the time. And so I

Sean Young:

got, I got violent. And I ended up in jail.

Tyler Evans:

So wow,

Sean Young:

I sat in jail for 20 days. And, and while I was in

Sean Young:

jail, kind of blamed everybody for my problems. You know, I

Sean Young:

said, you know, if it wasn't for my dad, I wouldn't be an

Sean Young:

alcoholic. If it wasn't for my mom, I wouldn't be an alcoholic,

Sean Young:

you know, my roommate could have stopped me drinking. But in

Sean Young:

reality, nobody could have I, I had to save myself. And there

Sean Young:

was an old guy. And there was an old man in jail that sat there

Sean Young:

and he looked at me and he said, Viking because they call me

Sean Young:

Viking in jail. Because I got a big beard, big, crazy beard. And

Sean Young:

he said, Viking. You created all the problems in your life, when

Sean Young:

you realise that and when you accept that. That's the only

Sean Young:

moment that is the moment that you're going to be free from all

Sean Young:

of this. And at first, I was like, man, Screw him. It's like,

Sean Young:

I don't know who he thinks to talk to him. But I really sat

Sean Young:

and I took what he said, and I listened to it and held it to

Sean Young:

heart. And that day, was the day that I felt like the deliverance

Sean Young:

from addiction, the the deliverance from the anger that

Sean Young:

I had been suffering from practically my whole life, my

Sean Young:

PTSD, all that stuff. And that was the day that I was released

Sean Young:

from jail. That was the day my Bond got posted. Literally, all

Sean Young:

I had to do was accept that I had done all these things to my

Sean Young:

adult life. And so when I got out of jail, I entered into what

Sean Young:

is called a therapeutic court. So it's almost like a drug

Sean Young:

court. Where you have an offence that is drug related alcohol

Sean Young:

related, but in and Alaska, there's a veteran's programme.

Sean Young:

Is it court ordered, basically, a court order programme? Yes,

Sean Young:

yes, it's a court ordered programme. And so this one was

Sean Young:

specifically designated for veterans. And I had to go to

Sean Young:

work to court every week. I had urinalysis every week. But I

Sean Young:

also was hustling every week, I did full recovery meetings a

Sean Young:

week. So either a or a. And I was also in relapse prevention.

Sean Young:

So I was learning about my relapse cycles and learning

Sean Young:

about the mental, emotional, and physical signs of relapse, as

Sean Young:

well as learning about who I was as an individual. Through this,

Sean Young:

this course called Moral Reconation Therapy, what that

Sean Young:

is, is Reconation is reconnecting. So bringing a

Sean Young:

reconnection back to who you are. And that course really

Sean Young:

saved my life. It made me look at all the bad things that I

Sean Young:

have done in my life, and take accountability for them. And all

Sean Young:

the bad decisions I've made in my life, take accountability for

Sean Young:

them, own them, and then move forward. And it helped

Sean Young:

reintegrate, like the decision making process and my own and my

Sean Young:

brain, looking at some of the things in life that I thought

Sean Young:

were bad, but were really good for me. And just changing the

Sean Young:

way that I think and that course really saved my life. So that

Sean Young:

was a nine month programme. And I stayed in the programme for

Sean Young:

nine months, graduated in October 2020. During the

Sean Young:

pandemic,

Sean Young:

our favourite year.

Sean Young:

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. You know, the pandemic did a lot of good for

Sean Young:

people and a lot of bad for people, but it worked wonders

Sean Young:

for me. And I was able to focus on myself and not focus on

Sean Young:

anything else around me. I was able to remove myself because I

Sean Young:

mean, you know, we're on lockdown. So, I was able, I was

Sean Young:

able to separate myself and, and sit down with myself and really

Sean Young:

dig into who I was as an individual and as a human being,

Sean Young:

and what I wanted to give back to the world that I had taken,

Sean Young:

you know, I had taken so much from from this world. Well, I

Sean Young:

had taken more than I was capable of giving back And so

Sean Young:

when I graduated out of my program, I said, I want to give

Sean Young:

back, I don't know how I'm gonna get back, but I want to, and I

Sean Young:

felt like I was just drifting and like, like floating. And

Sean Young:

somebody pulled me in and said, hey, you know, take this course,

Sean Young:

this course will help you and it's a peer support. And I

Sean Young:

didn't know what peer support was at all. And so I just kind

Sean Young:

of took a step of faith and, and I was like, Okay, I'm just gonna

Sean Young:

see what this is all about. And I took this course in it. And it

Sean Young:

ushered me into peer support. So what peer support is, is, it is

Sean Young:

people who have been in recovery, or parents or family

Sean Young:

members or friends of people in recovery, with lived experience

Sean Young:

using their experience as a guiding tool to help others in

Sean Young:

their path on recovery. And I had to share my story and in

Sean Young:

that class, and when I sat down, and I looked at my whole story,

Sean Young:

I was I was embarrassed. Flat out embarrassed of who I was.

Tyler Evans:

Oh, wow,

Saylor Cooper:

I don't blame you. alot of People have that

Saylor Cooper:

regret.

Sean Young:

Yeah, I Well, yeah. I was embarrassed. I had to look

Sean Young:

at myself in the mirror and say you are terrible human being.

Sean Young:

And I said, I've said that to myself, my whole life pretty

Sean Young:

much. And so it came time to share a story and my, my

Sean Young:

instructor said, Okay, let's go first. And I was like, I'll do

Sean Young:

it. I raised my hand. And I shared my story for an hour. And

Sean Young:

that was the first time I had ever shared my story and shared

Sean Young:

it in detail. And at the end of it, I felt this just really, I

Sean Young:

felt like weightless, right, I felt like, all the weight had

Sean Young:

been lifted off my shoulder, I felt like somebody had handed me

Sean Young:

this key to a door I'd never knew existed. And all I had to

Sean Young:

do was walk through it. And I did. And since then, I've gotten

Sean Young:

back into I'm not a participant in veterans court, but I help

Sean Young:

participants that are in veterans court. I do two

Sean Young:

meetings a week with with, with them. I also am very active on

Sean Young:

social media, I help people on social media that are suffering,

Sean Young:

suffering from you know, life events or traumatic events or

Sean Young:

addiction, I help them get to get the services that they need,

Sean Young:

whether it's people that are homeless, you know, funding

Sean Young:

shelters, homeless shelters, whether it's the addict or the

Sean Young:

alcoholic at help find their local meeting, or find a

Sean Young:

recovery centre for them to to look into. Or whether it's just

Sean Young:

providing that friendship that we need that human connection

Sean Young:

that we all need.

Saylor Cooper:

That's right, it says that in your bio. I'm proud

Saylor Cooper:

of you that you help others.

Sean Young:

Thank you.

Saylor Cooper:

And also, so do you have any like resentment? Do

Saylor Cooper:

you still have resentment? What you done? Do you still have

Saylor Cooper:

regrert to have you completely just forgiving yourself?

Sean Young:

I've learned to forgive myself because I

Sean Young:

couldn't move on. And I couldn't begin to to help other people if

Sean Young:

I if I didn't move on. And I didn't forgive myself. And as

Sean Young:

far as the resentments, I've ever worked past the resentments

Sean Young:

that I have and that I've had, I mean, since I've been sober, and

Sean Young:

I've been clean, and I've gotten in positions and resentments,

Sean Young:

but I've had to let them go because all they are is going to

Sean Young:

harbour my next you know, my next anger fit, right and I'm

Sean Young:

not saying like I'm gonna go out and and go crazy, but like, it's

Sean Young:

gonna keep me in an unhealthy position mentally and

Sean Young:

emotionally and spiritually, and that's not where I need to be.

Saylor Cooper:

No,

Sean Young:

I want to give the best of myself to the world to a

Sean Young:

partner. And I can't give my give the best of me to anybody

Sean Young:

if I'm not at my best.

Saylor Cooper:

That's right, that's right.why That's why And

Saylor Cooper:

a and you see no Sean, I don't like angle it does nothing. It

Saylor Cooper:

only hurts people and I understand why people angry but

Saylor Cooper:

there's no excuse to continue to be that way. You know, you gotta

Saylor Cooper:

you gotta do something about it. You know, if it's getting help,

Saylor Cooper:

going to go into counselling and just digging deep and talking

Saylor Cooper:

about your issues, you know, do it and you you've done nothing,

Saylor Cooper:

but just I like how you say you should never blame others. I

Saylor Cooper:

mean, I mean, the way I see it is yeah, people may have people

Saylor Cooper:

some people may have had a In a rough upbringing, but they don't

Saylor Cooper:

need to say that they don't need to stay in that same pit in that

Saylor Cooper:

same spot. They can pull themselves out if they show if

Saylor Cooper:

they so choose.

Tyler Evans:

Yeah, that's right.

Sean Young:

I actually was talking to a friend of mine

Sean Young:

today on a recording from my podcast, and he had said

Sean Young:

something and, and, and it really stuck with me. And it's

Sean Young:

the reality that we get to these positions where we feel like, we

Sean Young:

cannot get better. Right? Like mentally, emotionally,

Sean Young:

spiritually, we cannot get better, because something is

Sean Young:

always going to bother us. And I can tell you right now in my

Sean Young:

life, being in the Army being deployed four times, you know,

Sean Young:

watching some of the worst and humanity happen in front of my

Sean Young:

eyes. And you know, even with the PTSD, all that stuff, I can

Sean Young:

tell you right now, nothing triggers me. Nothing bothers me

Sean Young:

to the point where I feel like I have to have an episode. But

Sean Young:

that's because I've worked so hard to become who I am today,

Sean Young:

I've worked through the triggers of trauma. And I just wish that

Sean Young:

I wish that everybody could experience that could experience

Sean Young:

what it's like to be to have peace.

Saylor Cooper:

Exactly. Yeah, yeah. We because we all need

Saylor Cooper:

that in this world peace. And so I want to go back to the

Saylor Cooper:

military. Did being in the Army, cause that trauma? And also, did

Saylor Cooper:

you do certain tasks that cause the TBI as well.

Sean Young:

So, I have just about every form of trauma that

Sean Young:

you could have, with the exception of one or two, I have

Sean Young:

a lot of childhood trauma. I have a lot of service, trauma,

Sean Young:

service connected trauma, some sexual trauma, some other stuff,

Sean Young:

compounded traumas, post service, trauma relationship,

Sean Young:

Charles, he, you name it, I'm a trauma. I'm a trauma bucket I

Sean Young:

collect. But every individual trauma has something different,

Sean Young:

some more profound on the back end of it.

Saylor Cooper:

Yeah.

Sean Young:

And, and that was really, really rough to come to

Sean Young:

the realisation of some of those things like I have fought

Sean Young:

through a lot of trauma that actually happened to me very

Sean Young:

recently, as recently as this past December. And if you don't

Sean Young:

mind, okay. I'm going through a divorce and my ex wife packed up

Sean Young:

her and the kids and left without warning,

Saylor Cooper:

without warning,

Sean Young:

with their there was no anything. And the trauma that

Sean Young:

that happened wasn't her leaving, it was the manner in

Sean Young:

which she did it.

Saylor Cooper:

Did she? I mean, did she did I mean, I don't want

Saylor Cooper:

to blame you or anything. But like, I know, obviously, she

Saylor Cooper:

left for a reason because she saw everything that you you had

Saylor Cooper:

been through and everything that you were doing, but did she see

Saylor Cooper:

that she see how you made a just a 180 turn around and improve

Saylor Cooper:

that? Did she even see that? And still after what

Sean Young:

she did. She did and this was almost three years

Sean Young:

after, after I had been sober, right and and so like her?

Tyler Evans:

Oh wow,

Sean Young:

I found out I found out that it was it had nothing

Sean Young:

to do with me. There was there was somebody else. And so I had

Sean Young:

to sit there and watch that watch that unfold in front of my

Sean Young:

eyes. And I had a lot of like trauma when it came to

Sean Young:

abandonment and stuff like that. And, and that's exactly what it

Sean Young:

felt like was was being abandoned being being good

Sean Young:

enough to take care of somebody else's kids but not good enough

Sean Young:

to be around. Right. And that was rough. It was hard. And so

Sean Young:

worked through a lot of that and you know, from time to time, I

Sean Young:

get that feeling of used goods, not from anybody but just you

Sean Young:

know, your brain, your brain will tell you things or that

Sean Young:

feeling of of not being good enough. And so that's something

Sean Young:

that I worked through and I still go to counselling I've

Sean Young:

been in counselling ever since I started my recovery journey.

Sean Young:

Official for me, but the the traumatic brain injury thing. I

Sean Young:

was I was a paratrooper in the army for 12 and a half years so

Sean Young:

I would jump out of aeroplanes.

Saylor Cooper:

Wow, that's scary.

Sean Young:

Yeah, I was terrified of heights. People

Sean Young:

asked me why why would you jump out aeroplane aeroplanes? If

Sean Young:

you're terrified? Heights $150 $150 man. You know, I mean, it's

Sean Young:

a little extra money in the bank, because adrenaline rush

Sean Young:

to. And I was close to some explosions. A truck that I was

Sean Young:

in, back in 2010 blew up until I was an IEP. I smacked my head

Sean Young:

around a few times. So some occupational hazards there.

Saylor Cooper:

I say yeah, yeah. The military can be traumatic.

Saylor Cooper:

But I do want to thank you for serving in all United States

Saylor Cooper:

military and not to get political anything here. I mean,

Saylor Cooper:

everybody each to their own, but I've questioned it with whatever

Saylor Cooper:

the thing that what with all what has been going on, but I

Saylor Cooper:

still believe the United States of America is still the greatest

Saylor Cooper:

country in the world.

Sean Young:

I gotta agree with you. I gotta agree.

Tyler Evans:

Oh, yeah. Absolutely.

Sean Young:

I agree with you. But thank you for your support.

Saylor Cooper:

Yes.

Tyler Evans:

you are welcome

Saylor Cooper:

And, I mean, I don't, I don't like people who

Saylor Cooper:

hold grudges, especially if you know others can. Even though you

Saylor Cooper:

know, we're all human. We're not perfect, right? I mean, we've

Saylor Cooper:

wronged others. If we can show if we can show them that we can

Saylor Cooper:

change. We shouldn't hold those scratches. Yeah, yeah.

Sean Young:

That was that was something that I used to pride

Sean Young:

myself on, like, how long can I go without talking to you?

Sean Young:

Because I'm so angry. And now, I don't want to do that.

Saylor Cooper:

And you see, and if someone doesn't want to

Saylor Cooper:

change, that's a different story. But you know, you why you

Saylor Cooper:

Why'd and I do, why ask me? The Do you believe in Jesus? God is

Saylor Cooper:

that is that who is that who helped save you.

Sean Young:

So my higher power is not the monotheistic version

Sean Young:

of Jesus or God. I do believe in the Bible, I do believe and

Sean Young:

something I don't know what it is. But that's not necessarily

Sean Young:

what helped pull me through. What helped pull me through was

Sean Young:

looking at every time that I've tried to get sober. And looking

Sean Young:

andthat there was a reason I relapsed. And that that reason I

Sean Young:

relapsed every single time was because I was putting my

Sean Young:

recovery on somebody else's putting my sobriety on somebody

Sean Young:

else. So if they left, or we got into an argument, and nothing to

Sean Young:

be sober for but this time, and it's weird how it happened to

Sean Young:

and I wish that I could play a tape from then till now. But

Sean Young:

when I first got into court, and the judge says, Why do you think

Sean Young:

that this time it's going to work? I said, because I have to

Sean Young:

be sober for myself. If something happens to my family.

Sean Young:

I will only have myself to be sober for

Saylor Cooper:

Right,

Tyler Evans:

right.

Sean Young:

And December, the inconceivable to me happened.

Sean Young:

And I'm still sober. I'm still clean. I'm still working my

Sean Young:

program

Saylor Cooper:

And do you still drink today? Are you alcohol

Saylor Cooper:

free?

Sean Young:

alcohol free? I haven't had a drink of alcohol

Sean Young:

since December 27 2019.

Saylor Cooper:

Because your problem is like, I guess, say,

Saylor Cooper:

your a lot of people drink just socially casually, you know, the

Saylor Cooper:

drink is fine. But there's those out there who just cannot stop?

Saylor Cooper:

Are you one of those if you do try to drink socially, you just

Saylor Cooper:

can't stop or but

Sean Young:

I have tried to drink socially and it never

Sean Young:

works. And I envy. Okay, envy is a bad word. But in this, it's a

Sean Young:

good word. I envy those who can go out and have one or two. And

Sean Young:

I actually applaud them because I can't I know that if I were to

Sean Young:

go out and try and drink socially, I would try what's

Sean Young:

what social to me is going out and trying to drink the bar and

Sean Young:

I was never successful. But but you know, the thing is, is being

Sean Young:

in my recovery now I can be around people who drink and I'm

Sean Young:

fine. I drink Diet Coke and I'm okay, I'll drink water and I'm

Sean Young:

okay. I don't have the substance is not my problem anymore. It's

Sean Young:

my brain. And I know that my brain tells me that it's okay to

Sean Young:

have one. But if I did my genetic makeup says that if I

Sean Young:

have one, I'm going to have to I'm going to have five I'm going

Sean Young:

to have 10 And I won't stop. And so I know for me that My best

Sean Young:

bet is just not to drink.

Saylor Cooper:

I see I hear Yeah, if you can avoid it, just

Saylor Cooper:

do it because it causes problems. And I have a couple of

Saylor Cooper:

other questions. One, do. Are you that roommate who you

Saylor Cooper:

assaulted? Has he forgiven you? And is that charge still on your

Saylor Cooper:

record? Or did you were you able to get it completely expunged?

Sean Young:

Okay, so the roommate that I assaulted him

Sean Young:

and I have spoken, and he came to me. And I made amends. And he

Sean Young:

did. And because of the program that I was working, my record

Sean Young:

was completely expunged because I did my time. Thank you.

Saylor Cooper:

Gotcha. Good job.

Saylor Cooper:

Yeah, it's good.

Saylor Cooper:

Isn't it? It's, it's awesome. It's, it's good. And so you're

Saylor Cooper:

helping others get sober. And what do your future goals

Saylor Cooper:

include?

Sean Young:

So I'm going to be going to school, going to

Sean Young:

college, in the fall semester to get my Master's in counselling

Sean Young:

and in my bachelor's in psychology, I want to be a

Sean Young:

counsellor.

Saylor Cooper:

That's good.

Sean Young:

I feel like I feel like there's a lot of

Sean Young:

counsellors now that don't that that lack the life experience

Sean Young:

that I have. And so I want to give back in that in that

Sean Young:

fashion.

Saylor Cooper:

Yeah,

Sean Young:

yeah. And I actually I live in a in a civil war town.

Sean Young:

I don't know if you're familiar with or know a lot about the

Sean Young:

American Civil War, but

Saylor Cooper:

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Ive studiesd it

Sean Young:

Okay, I live just outside of Antietam in Virginia.

Sean Young:

So I live in West Virginia, but I have friends and family that

Sean Young:

live in Sharpsburg, which is the town that Antietam happened in,

Sean Young:

and I want to get associated with the battlefield trust. So I

Sean Young:

can start doing tours given.

Saylor Cooper:

It's great. It's great. And it's because before

Saylor Cooper:

that you originally from Alaska, right?

Sean Young:

No, no, I grew up in this area. Actually, Sharpsburg

Sean Young:

I grew up here. And then I joined the Army and I went to a

Sean Young:

gas station in Italy, Fort Bragg, North Carolina and then

Sean Young:

Alaska.

Saylor Cooper:

Wow. I see you have so you're back home. It's

Saylor Cooper:

good. Well, I'm proud of what you've done. You're only going

Saylor Cooper:

to continue to inspire the world. Well,other than that. I

Saylor Cooper:

don't believe I have any more questions for you. So I mean, I

Saylor Cooper:

Well, actually, I would like to be on your podcast tell us. What

Saylor Cooper:

was your podcast about?

Sean Young:

Okay, so my podcast is called sitting with Sean. I

Sean Young:

have three separate projects that I'm doing right now. One is

Sean Young:

called recover out loud. And that is where I talk to people

Sean Young:

with mental health disorders, or substance abuse disorders, or

Sean Young:

really any kind of adversity in their life that they have had to

Sean Young:

overcome and go through some form of a recovery process. A

Sean Young:

second, an interview style that I have is called extraordinary,

Sean Young:

in his words, is normal people living their normal everyday

Sean Young:

lives, but they're doing extraordinary stuff with it.

Sean Young:

They're doing cool.

Tyler Evans:

Wow,

Sean Young:

a few. I've had a few authors on. I've had a

Sean Young:

professional stuntman. Like really cool stuff. And then my

Sean Young:

last one is called Late Night Live with Sean and it's more

Sean Young:

like a Jimmy Kimmel, Jimmy Fallon kind of show where we

Sean Young:

just have fun. We talk about things that you wouldn't

Sean Young:

normally talk about and during the daytime, so it's fun.

Saylor Cooper:

It's great. And so yeah, you are free, you know,

Saylor Cooper:

you feel free, which is great.

Sean Young:

Yeah, I'm free. And that feels great to say I'm free

Sean Young:

and more than one, one sense. Yeah, yeah.

Saylor Cooper:

You're free and you put all this stuff behind

Saylor Cooper:

you and you only want to move forward.

Sean Young:

Absolutely. Absolutely. If we're not. We're

Sean Young:

not moving forward. We're getting stuck in the same place.

Saylor Cooper:

Yes, yes. Well, I would love to be on your podcast

Saylor Cooper:

as well. Because we have stories to share and I want to invite

Saylor Cooper:

you to PadaPalooza, which is a great event for podcasters.

Sean Young:

Absolutely, absolutely. I'd love to have you

Sean Young:

on my show. And I'd love to come to Padapalooza. Oh, yes. And

Sean Young:

yeah, so

Saylor Cooper:

do you have any questions for I guess?

Tyler Evans:

Um, let's see. So as your podcasts like, is it a

Tyler Evans:

business for you?

Sean Young:

I'm kind of kind of, I do it more to more for fun. I

Sean Young:

do it for the stories for the, for the the experience. But I

Sean Young:

want I want at some point I want to monetize it because time is

Sean Young:

money.

Tyler Evans:

Yeah.

Tyler Evans:

That's what we want to do. I want to make money doing it.

Sean Young:

Yeah, I, you know, I love hearing the human

Sean Young:

experience. And I love hearing the Triumph story, but also

Sean Young:

understand that, you know, podcasting for free is not going

Sean Young:

to pay the bills.

Saylor Cooper:

No,

Tyler Evans:

no, it's not.

Sean Young:

Yeah, yeah.

Saylor Cooper:

So, speaking of that, I put my information in

Saylor Cooper:

the chat. So please feel free to exchange contacts.

Sean Young:

Sounds good sounds. I haven't pulled up.

Saylor Cooper:

Yeah. And so um, so if nothing else, how about

Saylor Cooper:

let's do a customary ending Tyler, shall we?

Tyler Evans:

Hmm.

Saylor Cooper:

Okay, bow is in your court. Go ahead.

Tyler Evans:

Okay, so what do you say to those who feel they

Tyler Evans:

have no hope?

Sean Young:

See, yeah, yeah. Oh, see, there's always hope.

Saylor Cooper:

There you like advice would you give?

Sean Young:

What advice would I give?

Saylor Cooper:

If you don't know where to turn?

Sean Young:

I would just I would tell them that That advice is

Sean Young:

free. You got to put in the work.

Saylor Cooper:

Yeah, put it Yeah, everything.

Saylor Cooper:

Yeah, you go.

Saylor Cooper:

Well, Sean, thanks so much for being on my on help without

Saylor Cooper:

sight, sharing your light and how you've overcome challenges.

Saylor Cooper:

Everybody give it out to Sean Young stay blessed.