Life Lessons from Zonie Girl: How to Stay Sunny, Grounded and Resilient | RR240

Janice Porter: 00:00:01

Hello everyone and welcome to relationships

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rule. I am most excited this week about my guest, Bonnie

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Stevens, who comes to us from Arizona. We call her the zoning

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girl she calls herself the zoning girl. So it took me a

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minute, Bonnie to figure that one out because Arizona is not

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my home space, but I finally got it. And now of course, it's

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completely. So welcome to the show.

Bonnie Stevens: 00:00:27

Oh, thank you so much. You know, Genesis is such

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an honor to be here. And I love the name of your podcast,

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relationship relationships rule, I just love that I promote that

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so strongly throughout my my business and for years. And

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really, it's all about relationships.

Janice Porter: 00:00:46

It is and thank you, thank you for that. So just

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a little snippet about Bonnie, because there's way more to tell

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you that she is an Emmy award winning documentary producer,

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and international speaker, international best selling

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author, career journalist, editor of to business journals,

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public relations consultant, entrepreneur, and former

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television news anchor. And there is way more that we will

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weave in as we go because I was fortunate enough to meet Bonnie

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on a retreat in Arizona actually, not long ago. And she

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is a pro extraordinaire, and I loved her from the minute I met

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her. So I'm so glad that you were able to come on the show.

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And I'm going to start actually by taking you back because I'm

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curious as you know, I'm curious about the the chapter that you

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wrote in this book, the impact of one voice and you tell your

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story of of kind of being in a in a bad place. Looking for some

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solution to how you were feeling in the depths at the time. Now.

Janice Porter: 00:01:58

I'm guessing this was 1520 years ago. 10.

Bonnie Stevens: 00:02:03

Not not just a little over 10 years ago, and

Bonnie Stevens: 00:02:06

Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah, maybe about 12? About 12 years ago. Okay, so

Janice Porter: 00:02:11

you went through? Well, then it may not I thought

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it was a bit longer. But this I'll ask the question anyway.

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So, um, if you want to give us a synopsis of what happened and

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what, what came out of it, I'll just tell you that my question

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that I was thinking, when I, when I was reading this is, how

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do you know that movie sliding doors?

Bonnie Stevens: 00:02:35

I've heard of it. I don't altro and

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if you see her at the beginning of the movie, it's

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an old movie, but she gets on a train. And if she left, this is

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how her life would be. Oh, right. This is how her life

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would be. And so you see both parts of the of the story. And I

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just wonder if that affected your path. Career wise, when you

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had this, this experience in Hawaii?

Bonnie Stevens: 00:03:03

Yeah. Great question. You know, Janice, I,

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when I was having this time, and it was a dark time, and just

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briefly, the three people that I was closest to the people who I

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believe loved me more than anybody else on the planet, and

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we're always rooting me on. And when I did something, they

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would, they would see it as three times as big as anybody

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else, you know, and they just, were always my cheering section.

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They were all dying of a disease, all three of them. It

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wasn't like an accident that was handling the ball. It wasn't the

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same disease that they contracted from each other. It

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was just this really dark time. And it was my mom, my oldest

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sister and my oldest brother. And it was really difficult. And

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it was a difficult time for me in other personal ways as well.

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But this this really got to my core to the fact that there was

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nothing in my life that I recognized as my life anymore.

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My husband and I had had 100 miles of distance between us, my

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oldest son had moved away to find work in another state after

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graduating college. And and so I wasn't living in my same

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beautiful mountain home. And then there's all this tragedy

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everywhere. And what's interesting is that during this

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time, you know, I believe that the universe has a way of

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mirroring back to us what we're going through or helping to see

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and understand what we're going through. And I'm sitting there

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on my deck one day trying to process what all is happening

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and where how I'm going to help everybody it all you know all

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the people that in my life and a fire a forest fire started just

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to the north of May right before my eyes lit just a few miles

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north and it turned out to be a huge devastating fire was called

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the Schultz fire and I was watching the plume build up my

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background I'm I had spent time in the Forest Service and had

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been on fire lines. And I understand, you know, when a

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forest fire plume gets to a certain point in the atmosphere,

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it can collapse on itself. And when it does that, it just

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washes out flames, it can be deadly dangerous. And I was

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watching this thing built and getting heavier and heavier, and

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it was really kind of freaking me out. And it wasn't far from

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town. And then as I turned around, there was another fire

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starting to the south of me. And it just felt like my whole world

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was this hazy, covered in this hazy smoke that I didn't

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recognize anything. And I was just like, sort of grabbing on

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to things sort of stabilizing myself, like what is happening.

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And I feel like the universe does that. And and if we're not

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paying attention, we get it, you know, hit 10 times harder than

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we should have caught it the first time. And so in this time,

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you know, I've been a journalist for, you know, decades already.

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I had told stories all my life, and been in front of the cameras

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and almost felt very confident and sort of in charge and

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balanced. And, you know, I did all the things that you're

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supposed to do. I tried to eat right, I tried to exercise all

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the time. And I felt like I was doing everything I can to be,

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you know, healthy and strong. And yet, I was sitting there

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going, how can my world have gone so wrong? When I felt like

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I really tried to follow the, you know, the straight and

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narrow and make it all seem right and good. And, and that's

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when it hit me that I really needed to hear other voices

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besides the fear that was inside of me. And so that turned me on

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to listening to audiobooks, just obsessively anything that was

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good and positive and, and motivating and inspirational. I

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was just playing in my head, I'd go to sleep with it going on.

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And then, you know, I was really tuned into my intuition at the

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time, too. And trying to ask for, you know, how do I get

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through all of this, and I heard my higher voice. And it's funny,

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Janice, because my Christians, my Christian friends will tell

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you I misheard the message that it was really go surf. Yes, I

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heard go surf. Yeah. And so I thought, Well, okay, so I

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started looking up surf camps, and I was thinking, Oh, my gosh,

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you know, it cost me a lot of money I'd I have, it's totally

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irresponsible for me to check out on my life, to go, you know,

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away for five, six days, spend the money, like $1,500 on

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airline tickets, that camp itself was another 35. So you're

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starting to add this up, that's $5,000. And then my mother, who

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was going through dementia and getting worse, you know, as that

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disease progresses, one day, she tells my sister that she wanted

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to give a my sister that was my other sister, that that she

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wanted to give all her children $5,000 Now my mother never gave

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us money like that. And when I got this gift, I thought, Okay,

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that sounds like divine intervention, you know, my

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mother pushed this out through the fog of dementia. And she had

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these, this $5,000. And that's exactly what I had, in my mind,

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I'm going a must be assigned. So to everybody else, that will be

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completely absurd. But I went ahead signed up for surf camp.

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And I tell you, you know, it's in my book, which is coming out

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in January. It's called life lessons from a zonie girl how to

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stay Sunny, grounded and resilient. And I talk about that

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as the lead in. And then I talk about so many inspirational

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stories, people I've interviewed and covered through my life as a

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journalist. How and I and I relate it to things that happen

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in Arizona. So if you're in a gravelly pit of indecision,

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which, you know, is, is such a visual, if you've ever been

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hiking in Arizona, or mountain biking in Arizona, and it just

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kind of talks you through, you know, what your choices are, and

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what what successful people have said, I pull in their quotes,

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and, you know, they all say make a decision, you know, don't

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don't be in indecision, make a decision. And if you if it's

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defined out, it's the wrong decision. Make another decision.

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And I'm going simple enough, you know, don't just stay in this,

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this confusing mixture of I don't know which way to turn. So

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I mean, it's things like that, that really helped me that I

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wish if I wrote that book, read that book. 2030 years ago, I

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would have been able to jump across maybe two decades of

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lessons learned, right? So I appreciate that you read the

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chapter and I do tell that story also in the impact of one voice

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inspirational stories of passion, purpose and

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perseverance, which I'm thrilled to say is an international Your

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best seller. So exciting stuff, really fun and interesting and

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fresh stories that you've never heard before. And that's, that's

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the turning points that we talked about this tourney time

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in my life. So I really felt like, Okay, now that I have all

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this wisdom, and I've gone through the, you know, yeah, I

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write and come out the other end, I realized that, you know,

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what that was doing to me was it kept me quiet, it kept me small,

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it kept me from not sharing my gifts, it kept me feeling like,

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I didn't have anything to give, and I certainly didn't have

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anything to share, and who cares anyway, and that is the wrong

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message. Because, you know, women especially need to hear

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that message that we have gifts, and we need to share them. It

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you know, if you think of it more as as a responsibility, it

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takes your ego out of it, you have something that somebody

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needs to hear. And that's why today I illuminate women, women

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in business, so that they can learn how to be camera ready as

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how I call it in, in story and soul and style. And through

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this, they can step into the spotlight be more visible,

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impact, their their value, increase their their impact,

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and, and inspire others to do the same. And that's really how

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my mission changed from telling other people's stories to

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encouraging people to tell their stories.

Janice Porter: 00:11:31

Got it? Because I know that you know, certainly

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having been in the in the spotlight and on air for all

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those years and so on. You know, you were it was a job. And you

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were you were doing investigative journalism as

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well. I know that you're really um, I had forgotten that you're

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a science geek actually like, right? I

Bonnie Stevens: 00:11:55

am. Yeah, like, thank you. I am a science in a

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positive way. Don't

Janice Porter: 00:12:00

get me wrong, but I own that. But sure, one thing

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the most. I think the thing that stuck with me the most when I

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met you. And I just set the scene a little bit that you

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actually gave a little bit of a presentation or workshop for the

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group of us that were at this retreat in Arizona. And the

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thing that I think it's because I don't I feel I don't do this

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very well. And I was in awe of what you were doing is, and this

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is this is leading to your workshop that I know your your

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retreat that you're doing in February, and February, right,

Janice Porter: 00:12:42

yes. But I want to just mention that. And we'll get into that.

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Because what what I was in awe of was how well you tell a

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story, you tell a story so well. And the other thing about that

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is having those stories to tell like on like on it, thinking of

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them on a dime. Because I can't do that. I just feel like

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there's got to be a story that I can elaborate on about this. And

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it doesn't come to me. And you know, if I've got the story,

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like one of the things I love to do as a teacher back in the day,

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was read out loud read to my class read to wonderful kids

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love to read stories to kids. But thinking those experienced

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stories that will illustrate the point. That's where the art is.

Janice Porter: 00:13:35

And that's what I saw you do so well.

Bonnie Stevens: 00:13:38

So oh my gosh, well, that is such a compliment.

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And Janice coming from you, I especially hold that so dear in

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my heart, I will hang on to that. Thank you so much. That's

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always the current skill, or Yeah, it is it is practiced. You

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know, I've I've been telling stories in print and on camera

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for a long time. But the the skill that I've had to learn is

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how to deliver them without a teleprompter and connecting with

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the audience and, and feeling the feedback about how it

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resonates. You know, what, what the captures them what they're

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interested in and how the points are made. And so, you know,

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every audience, it's, it's different. And which is really

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fun. Right? Read the audience is yes. And I've had to really

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learn that because I used to think when I was up in front of

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people that I was telling them so one way communication, right?

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They weren't there to learn and this is what they're gonna get.

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And I was, you know, really adamant about giving them the

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information, right, but I wasn't a news reporter in you. Yes. But

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I wasn't having the interactive experience, which is really the

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whole enjoyable part of speaking to a group of people. It's

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feeling the energy and feeling the feedback and you know,

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really feeling the love and when you say something that is that

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tugs at your heart. And somebody hears that for the first time,

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you've forgotten what an impact that is. And you can see it in

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their eyes. I mean, I've had roomfuls of people, you know,

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like, like wiping tears, as I'm telling them a story about about

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somebody and how that changed their life and what they went

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through. And to a writer, you know, I mean, the whole point

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is, to get people to feel to open up to be vulnerable, to

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look at something differently, to have a different perspective,

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perhaps, but but all of us, you know, when I, when I talk about

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and you know, this, you've heard me say this before, story, we

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all have a story. And the story is how we connect with each

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other. So that is so powerful. And, you know, not everybody

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recognizes that we learn through stories, and we have through

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through history, we tell, you know, around campfires, before

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we had written word, we would talk, we would share stories

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that were passed down through generations. So the story is

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such a powerful tool. And that is one of the things that I help

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people develop in this workshop is for women, and it's

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immersive. It's February 6, through 10th. It's called shine,

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and it and just to remind people how to find it, you can go

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story, soul style.com. And so story is how I mentioned how we

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connect with people, and I help people craft their story. And

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really hit the points most people don't dissect their own

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story, right? story has a beginning, a middle and end,

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there's adversity in it, there's champions in it, you know,

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there's the heroine in it. And there's, you know, in a story,

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there's a positive ending, there's something that came out

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of it, there's a lesson learned or a new direction, or whatever

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that is, and most of us don't look inwardly at our own story

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and just determine, you know, what were the factors that

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shifted our beliefs or shifted our motivation, or gave us more

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determination, whatever that was, and then your soul is

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really how we trust you, you know, you we do things for a

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reason, we're passionate about what we do, for some reason. And

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when we hear that, then then it's transfers into style. And

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that's really how we recognize each other, you know, our style,

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and all of that should flow together. And we should be able

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to, you know, recognize when I see Janice, I see, you know,

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somebody who values, relationships and helps other

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people maintain that connection, and really say what's in their

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hearts and not just let it be a fleeting moment, like, oh, yeah,

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I should really think that person, and then never do it,

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you know, and you have taught me that I can do that quickly,

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easily, effectively, efficiently, and cost

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effectively, which is really incredible. And I have, I have

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really become the spokesperson for you. And you're just in the

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past two weeks, I've seen so many people during the holidays,

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and I'm out there taking pictures. And for your send out

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card thing. People are so ecstatic when they get this this

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candid picture of them having a blast in and it takes you right

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back to that moment. And they open the cards and they text me

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immediately. And they're laughing. And they're they're

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saying, you know, this, this was really thoughtful and

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meaningful. And it's

Janice Porter: 00:18:46

actually because you're specific and unique for

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them. You were just thinking

Bonnie Stevens: 00:18:51

about them. Exactly.

Janice Porter: 00:18:53

Yeah, it's beautiful. People are touched

Bonnie Stevens: 00:18:55

by that. Yeah,

Janice Porter: 00:18:57

thank you. It's true. And they're in this world

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today. We need more of that.

Bonnie Stevens: 00:19:02

We tell them like, gosh, well kind of cuts

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through, it stops you in your tracks when you're doing your

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things are going through your mail quickly. Oh, that's a nice

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Christmas card from somebody you know, and then you open that up

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and you're going, Whoa, that is really thoughtful. That is super

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fun. And I've never seen this picture I'd totally forgotten

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about what we were doing in November, you know, so yeah, it

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does. It just brings people to life. It's beautiful.

Janice Porter: 00:19:28

Thank you. I'm so glad that you get it because the

Janice Porter: 00:19:31

more people that get it are able to spread that kindness and joy.

Janice Porter: 00:19:36

You know, the more the world will be a better place

Bonnie Stevens: 00:19:38

made it Yes.

Janice Porter: 00:19:40

So I watched you I listened to a couple of

Janice Porter: 00:19:46

interviews that you did and one that I watched because it was

Janice Porter: 00:19:49

video that I was actually I really really enjoyed it but I

Janice Porter: 00:19:53

thought it was interesting was it was one that you did earlier.

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This year with Joanne McCall calling, yes, gain visibility.

Janice Porter: 00:20:05

And her book was media savvy or something like that. She's

Janice Porter: 00:20:08

Darlene. Yeah, darling. I wrote that we down. That's right,

Janice Porter: 00:20:12

Darlene. She's a publicist, and she's in the world that you have

Janice Porter: 00:20:18

been in write for four years. And I, I really thought it was

Janice Porter: 00:20:23

interesting. Couple of things came from you. I watched it,

Janice Porter: 00:20:25

because I wanted to see you how you do interviews in on your

Janice Porter: 00:20:31

podcast? And also because I noticed, okay, it was on video,

Janice Porter: 00:20:37

it wasn't your news broadcast. You weren't a an anchor in this

Janice Porter: 00:20:42

situation. But I have to ask, did you have prompts on the

Janice Porter: 00:20:47

screen?

Bonnie Stevens: 00:20:50

Oh, you know, well, I always write notes

Bonnie Stevens: 00:20:52

myself,

Janice Porter: 00:20:53

you had notes down on your table, but you

Janice Porter: 00:20:55

never looked at them? Maybe once? And so see, now I'm into,

Janice Porter: 00:21:00

like, how to do a podcast? How do you do? But did you have us

Bonnie Stevens: 00:21:06

yet? Well, I do you know, I keep my notes on a

Bonnie Stevens: 00:21:09

an iPad, and I'm able to see that iPad. And you'll notice,

Bonnie Stevens: 00:21:14

you know, one of the tricks I do and I talked to the people I

Bonnie Stevens: 00:21:16

interview ahead of time, is if I break eye contact with you, it's

Bonnie Stevens: 00:21:21

because I'm looking down at my notes, I'm still listening, I

Bonnie Stevens: 00:21:24

want to make sure that I get to the points that we Yes, want to

Bonnie Stevens: 00:21:27

get out. And so you know, it's it's kind of a fine dance of

Bonnie Stevens: 00:21:31

being engaged, you know, unlocked with eye contact and

Bonnie Stevens: 00:21:35

bringing out that person to, you're also the producer, you

Bonnie Stevens: 00:21:39

know, in a normal TV setting, you'd have an something in your

Bonnie Stevens: 00:21:44

ear, and a producer would be talking to you. And they'd be

Bonnie Stevens: 00:21:47

saying, don't forget to ask him about, you know, or I've never

Bonnie Stevens: 00:21:51

had that. So, yeah, so you have lots, you have a big team on a

Bonnie Stevens: 00:21:57

TV set that's helping you and remind you of things, and you

Bonnie Stevens: 00:22:00

have a great teleprompter, and you've got a teleprompter

Bonnie Stevens: 00:22:02

operator and all that. But when you're doing a podcast, and

Bonnie Stevens: 00:22:06

you're doing the video as well, you know, it's a little tricky,

Bonnie Stevens: 00:22:09

because you don't want to look like you're disengaged, right,

Bonnie Stevens: 00:22:12

so, so I try to make sure that when she's on camera, the whole

Bonnie Stevens: 00:22:17

in filling the screen, and I'm not on camera, I'll try to look

Bonnie Stevens: 00:22:20

down just to see, and I'll have big circles on my script, like

Bonnie Stevens: 00:22:24

you know where to go to next. So I'll have sometimes I'll have

Bonnie Stevens: 00:22:27

arrows, you know, or I'll, I'll say, quote, page 63. And I want

Bonnie Stevens: 00:22:32

to grab their book, you know, and open it up and read

Bonnie Stevens: 00:22:34

something that they wrote that I thought was really impactful. So

Bonnie Stevens: 00:22:38

yeah, I'll do a lot of cues. And I tell you what, you know, I

Bonnie Stevens: 00:22:41

took a speed speak, a public speaking coach, I took some

Bonnie Stevens: 00:22:46

sessions with a woman who's amazing, she's masterful. Her

Bonnie Stevens: 00:22:50

name's RV Robinson, you I'm sure you've heard of her. And I

Bonnie Stevens: 00:22:55

learned so much from her about public speaking, and how to kill

Bonnie Stevens: 00:23:00

yourself and how to do things smoothly. And so I have been

Bonnie Stevens: 00:23:05

practicing that, and my vodcasts my video podcast, helps me do

Bonnie Stevens: 00:23:10

that, and helps me try to be smooth. And then when, when

Bonnie Stevens: 00:23:13

everything goes wrong, you know, that's, that's the, that's the

Bonnie Stevens: 00:23:17

mark of a real pro, when they can just keep the conversation

Bonnie Stevens: 00:23:20

going. And like you, Janice, you've done your homework. So

Bonnie Stevens: 00:23:24

you have lots of questions already floating around. And

Bonnie Stevens: 00:23:27

there's, it's easy to pull things out. But you have to just

Bonnie Stevens: 00:23:30

stay your concentration this day with your concentration. And an

Bonnie Stevens: 00:23:33

RV says, you know, if you're doing one hour of public

Bonnie Stevens: 00:23:36

speaking, it's like an eight hour day, it and and I get that

Bonnie Stevens: 00:23:40

and I don't know if you feel like this, but after all do a

Bonnie Stevens: 00:23:43

vodcast and I'm in charge of producing it all and make sure

Bonnie Stevens: 00:23:46

it all comes together. I'm starving. I was thinking, you

Bonnie Stevens: 00:23:51

know, it feels like I just ran a marathon and I really need a

Bonnie Stevens: 00:23:54

hamburger. So that's so you do put out a lot of energy. And and

Bonnie Stevens: 00:24:01

a good interviewer is somebody who does their research, and

Bonnie Stevens: 00:24:06

doesn't just show up and fire questions at somebody and call

Bonnie Stevens: 00:24:10

it good. You know, you're not really having a conversation

Bonnie Stevens: 00:24:13

you're just being fired at. So people recognize the difference.

Bonnie Stevens: 00:24:18

And they're very appreciative. You know, authors, I don't know

Bonnie Stevens: 00:24:21

how many times I've heard, Wow, you really read the book. Right?

Bonnie Stevens: 00:24:27

And you're thinking, shouldn't anybody who interviews you read

Bonnie Stevens: 00:24:30

your book? And the answer is no, you know, they might look at the

Bonnie Stevens: 00:24:34

table of contents or read the news release. But they won't

Bonnie Stevens: 00:24:37

really delve into it they won't absorb it and they won't

Bonnie Stevens: 00:24:40

highlight something that really spoke to them or is relevant for

Bonnie Stevens: 00:24:43

the moment you know, I'll because

Janice Porter: 00:24:46

because we take on too much. And there's there's

Janice Porter: 00:24:49

so much out there and we don't have time. So then why did we do

Janice Porter: 00:24:53

it? You know, like, I get it. And I understand that and I

Janice Porter: 00:24:56

actually have had people say that to me too. Although I I'm

Janice Porter: 00:25:00

learning that, you know, if I don't want to read that book,

Janice Porter: 00:25:03

then maybe I shouldn't have that person on my podcast. Right?

Janice Porter: 00:25:07

Well,

Bonnie Stevens: 00:25:08

yes, I have run into that too. And sometimes I

Bonnie Stevens: 00:25:13

have to force myself through a couple of chapters to like, and

Bonnie Stevens: 00:25:15

just really kind of get into it. But yeah, I know what you mean.

Bonnie Stevens: 00:25:21

And I'll put that off. And then it'll be like, nagging at you,

Bonnie Stevens: 00:25:24

you know, off in the corner office going? Remember? You're

Bonnie Stevens: 00:25:28

gonna read? Interesting.

Janice Porter: 00:25:31

So which part of what? So right now your focus?

Janice Porter: 00:25:37

Is it? What do you have different things going on? So

Janice Porter: 00:25:40

how many things do you have going on? Now? Like you do your

Janice Porter: 00:25:43

vodcast? You? Do you do private training for people? And yes,

Janice Porter: 00:25:49

okay. Go ahead.

Bonnie Stevens: 00:25:50

Yeah, absolutely. You know, I do I do

Bonnie Stevens: 00:25:53

many workshops in an afternoon. I do them with as I do them one

Bonnie Stevens: 00:26:00

on one, I do them in groups of three or 10. You know, after you

Bonnie Stevens: 00:26:06

get to about 18, it's kind of tough. But I'll and sometimes

Bonnie Stevens: 00:26:10

I'll bring in people that are broadcasters that I'm good

Bonnie Stevens: 00:26:14

friends with, and they'll help me you know, do interviews with

Bonnie Stevens: 00:26:17

people and help them get feedback and keep trying and

Bonnie Stevens: 00:26:20

practicing until they feel more confident, more comfortable and

Bonnie Stevens: 00:26:23

kind of get where everything is, you know, when when you're being

Bonnie Stevens: 00:26:27

interviewed on camera, there's so many questions just down to

Bonnie Stevens: 00:26:30

the basics of where am I supposed to look? And that's a

Bonnie Stevens: 00:26:33

really important question. Because if you're, depending on

Bonnie Stevens: 00:26:37

what kind of format it is, you can look really shifty, if your

Bonnie Stevens: 00:26:41

eyes are going all over looking for where they need to land. And

Bonnie Stevens: 00:26:45

what I always tell people is you just focus on the person talking

Bonnie Stevens: 00:26:48

to you just like you would, it's, that's normal. And really,

Bonnie Stevens: 00:26:51

we're just eavesdropping, like the camera, you know, we're just

Bonnie Stevens: 00:26:56

kind of hearing and listening and finding you very

Bonnie Stevens: 00:27:00

interesting, you know, it's like being in a crowded party, and

Bonnie Stevens: 00:27:04

somebody's holding court somewhere and they're animated

Bonnie Stevens: 00:27:07

and people keep are being drawn in to them. It's kind of the

Bonnie Stevens: 00:27:11

same feeling where you're just engaged, and you're so involved

Bonnie Stevens: 00:27:14

in this conversation, that it's charismatic, you know, it's

Bonnie Stevens: 00:27:18

magnetic, people want to come and find out well, what all of

Bonnie Stevens: 00:27:21

this is going on, and who is this person. And that's Janice,

Bonnie Stevens: 00:27:25

that's really how I operate. When I'm in a room, I'm always

Bonnie Stevens: 00:27:29

looking for that next best story. It's just what I do, I

Bonnie Stevens: 00:27:33

love to tell great stories. And so I'm always kind of filtering

Bonnie Stevens: 00:27:38

through rooms and looking for somebody that has this glow

Bonnie Stevens: 00:27:44

about them, or this drive, or this passion, you can tell in

Bonnie Stevens: 00:27:47

the way that they walk in the way that they move. Or they're

Bonnie Stevens: 00:27:52

gregarious, or whatever it is. And sometimes it's not even the

Bonnie Stevens: 00:27:55

main speaker, or the person that, you know, we're all there

Bonnie Stevens: 00:27:58

to see sometimes. And sometimes there's a lot of side stories,

Bonnie Stevens: 00:28:01

you know, it's like a bonus for me, I get to go to one event,

Bonnie Stevens: 00:28:04

and then pick up five different stories and five different

Bonnie Stevens: 00:28:07

sources.

Janice Porter: 00:28:08

Well, I think part of that is because you are

Janice Porter: 00:28:11

such a relationship person, yourself, like you love people.

Janice Porter: 00:28:16

And it's very obvious. And I saw it in that when we first met,

Janice Porter: 00:28:20

and you had each of us come up to be interviewed by you so that

Janice Porter: 00:28:24

we could go through and see how we were and what to say and

Janice Porter: 00:28:28

whatever. And you were so beautiful with everybody and

Janice Porter: 00:28:31

everybody was in a different place. Some people were more

Janice Porter: 00:28:34

natural and comfortable speaking to the you know, on camera and

Janice Porter: 00:28:38

others were not, and you made everybody feel comfortable and

Janice Porter: 00:28:42

try to move them ahead. And, and it is an art, there's no

Janice Porter: 00:28:45

question if you're not used to it, it's,

Bonnie Stevens: 00:28:48

it takes practice it. It

Janice Porter: 00:28:51

really does, I'm struggling still with this

Janice Porter: 00:28:54

green.on my, on my computer, versus looking at you on the

Janice Porter: 00:28:59

screen. And I've been dealing with that all day and more with

Janice Porter: 00:29:03

you than anybody else. I'm admitting it because I know that

Janice Porter: 00:29:06

I want to look at you. But if I look up here, I think I'm

Janice Porter: 00:29:09

looking at you, right? I don't know, it is,

Bonnie Stevens: 00:29:12

you know, with every different format, there's

Bonnie Stevens: 00:29:15

just something to learn about it. And, you know, you talk

Bonnie Stevens: 00:29:18

about somebody being a natural, they're a natural this their

Bonnie Stevens: 00:29:21

natural that well, you know, I submit that there's very few

Bonnie Stevens: 00:29:25

naturals in the world at just, you know, being really good at

Bonnie Stevens: 00:29:29

speaking or being really good on a certain format. It really

Bonnie Stevens: 00:29:32

comes down to practice and, and practice. So you know, I think

Bonnie Stevens: 00:29:35

back to playing the piano when I was seven years old, when I

Bonnie Stevens: 00:29:39

would rather have been climbing a tree, you know, I mean,

Bonnie Stevens: 00:29:41

practice takes discipline. And it's, it can be painful, because

Bonnie Stevens: 00:29:45

you've got to play it back and watch yourself and get

Bonnie Stevens: 00:29:49

comfortable with your voice and your mannerisms. And, you know,

Bonnie Stevens: 00:29:53

try different things and see if you animate it if you use your

Bonnie Stevens: 00:29:57

hands does that help you communicate a point is Is it

Bonnie Stevens: 00:30:00

more interesting to watch you? Or is it too much and you're

Bonnie Stevens: 00:30:04

bumping into things, you might have to rein it in a little bit,

Bonnie Stevens: 00:30:08

but knowing yourself, most of us don't even realize things that

Bonnie Stevens: 00:30:12

we wouldn't want to be doing on camera, but we do it because

Bonnie Stevens: 00:30:15

we're not aware of it. Right. So that practice makes us makes us

Bonnie Stevens: 00:30:20

focus in on that and pay attention. And then ask for

Bonnie Stevens: 00:30:23

feedback, which is also makes you very vulnerable. You know,

Bonnie Stevens: 00:30:27

if people might say, something that's, that hurts you or is

Bonnie Stevens: 00:30:31

offensive, but I take it all with a grain of salt. You know,

Bonnie Stevens: 00:30:34

we're, we're all individuals. And we're all anybody. You know,

Bonnie Stevens: 00:30:38

I applaud everyone who puts themselves out there because it

Bonnie Stevens: 00:30:42

is scary. And you can't control it. I think that's part of the

Bonnie Stevens: 00:30:45

fear is, you know, once it's out there, or two, it belongs to

Bonnie Stevens: 00:30:51

them, and then you can't control it. And that's very

Bonnie Stevens: 00:30:54

uncomfortable for most of us.

Janice Porter: 00:30:56

You know, I learned something a long time

Janice Porter: 00:30:57

ago, when I was doing some I was doing a television show for a

Janice Porter: 00:31:03

friend of mine. This is something I've thought about for

Janice Porter: 00:31:05

a long time he produced this show in in LA it was a it was

Janice Porter: 00:31:10

like a forerunner to Dancing with the Stars. It was called

Janice Porter: 00:31:13

Dance Fever. It was many, many years ago. And he had auditions

Janice Porter: 00:31:17

for that show, wherever to find dancers right to come on the

Janice Porter: 00:31:21

show here. It sounds familiar. Okay. Yeah, the premise of the

Janice Porter: 00:31:25

show is they get these amateurs on there, and they'd have a

Janice Porter: 00:31:30

three celebrity judges. And then they had a couple of dancers,

Janice Porter: 00:31:34

professional dancers on there as well, just to make it

Janice Porter: 00:31:36

interesting. And, and then anyway, so he said, Why don't

Janice Porter: 00:31:41

you do some auditions for me in Vancouver? And I said, Oh, yeah,

Janice Porter: 00:31:44

that would be fun, because I love doing events and things,

Janice Porter: 00:31:47

right. So I did it long story short, and I had to find a

Janice Porter: 00:31:51

nightclub to do them. And I had to find different kinds of

Janice Porter: 00:31:53

dancers and whatever. And I found celebrity special judges

Janice Porter: 00:31:58

to do that, you know, it was the same premise as the show, but it

Janice Porter: 00:32:01

was auditions. And from that, he would look at the tape, and they

Janice Porter: 00:32:04

would bring people down there to be on the actual show. Well, one

Janice Porter: 00:32:08

of the judges I got was a dance critic from the newspaper, and

Janice Porter: 00:32:14

the local newspaper, which was fine. Well, I did two shows this

Janice Porter: 00:32:17

first show this person came the second show, she couldn't come.

Janice Porter: 00:32:21

And she sent one of her colleagues, who was another

Janice Porter: 00:32:23

reporter from the local paper. And I won't get into the

Janice Porter: 00:32:28

details, but later, he basically wrote an article the next day

Janice Porter: 00:32:34

about how I handle things. And he didn't like what the way the

Janice Porter: 00:32:38

results had gone. Oh, no, kind of slammed me because it wasn't

Janice Porter: 00:32:41

like a contest. It was basically a TV show. And we had to pick

Janice Porter: 00:32:45

the dancers that we needed for the show as opposed to

Bonnie Stevens: 00:32:49

entertaining. Yeah. So he

Janice Porter: 00:32:52

slammed me in this article. Well, I was

Janice Porter: 00:32:54

devastated. And horse devastated. But I also realized

Janice Porter: 00:32:58

after that, that any press is good press. And it's gone in a

Janice Porter: 00:33:03

flash, because nobody really, you know, it's not that

Janice Porter: 00:33:06

important in the big scheme of things. But oh, my goodness, it

Janice Porter: 00:33:09

was hard on me at first.

Bonnie Stevens: 00:33:11

Oh, my gosh, yes. Well, you know, that

Bonnie Stevens: 00:33:14

happens. It does happen as you get good press. Right, whatever.

Bonnie Stevens: 00:33:19

And I have to say that I do. I do agree that publicity is

Bonnie Stevens: 00:33:26

usually good, even when it doesn't seem to be favorable.

Bonnie Stevens: 00:33:30

Yes, exactly. It puts you it makes people curious about you.

Bonnie Stevens: 00:33:34

Yeah. Which makes them want to find out more. And, you know,

Bonnie Stevens: 00:33:38

so. So even, I've done a lot of crisis management in my public

Bonnie Stevens: 00:33:43

relations consulting firm. And, you know, I try to calm people

Bonnie Stevens: 00:33:48

down, because, like, you're absolutely right, you're the

Bonnie Stevens: 00:33:51

only one that is feeling the heavy hit. And, and it goes away

Bonnie Stevens: 00:33:56

everything, especially these days is so fleeting, oh, yeah,

Bonnie Stevens: 00:33:59

you know, used to worry about the shelf life of something. And

Bonnie Stevens: 00:34:03

if it's gonna sit there and just, you know, ruin your life,

Bonnie Stevens: 00:34:06

because it's there on the table. But it's, it's so not true. And

Bonnie Stevens: 00:34:11

the best way to move on from something like that is, is to,

Bonnie Stevens: 00:34:17

is to succeed. You know what I mean? So to so to flood the

Bonnie Stevens: 00:34:22

media world, with all the successes, not necessarily that

Bonnie Stevens: 00:34:27

you did, but that you're introducing that you're bringing

Bonnie Stevens: 00:34:31

along from this program, you know, and, and just bury it just

Bonnie Stevens: 00:34:36

flooded with kindness and goodness and success, and joy

Bonnie Stevens: 00:34:42

and relationships, and then people will not it'll just be

Bonnie Stevens: 00:34:47

buried and it'll go away. Whatever it is. I mean, there's

Bonnie Stevens: 00:34:50

a lot of unfairness out there, but mostly, it's good. I like to

Bonnie Stevens: 00:34:54

think that mostly, the experiences are good. Exactly.

Janice Porter: 00:34:58

So as we were wrap up because I realized I've

Janice Porter: 00:35:01

gone over and that's okay. We have so much fun talking. Now, I

Janice Porter: 00:35:06

want to ask you a couple of quick hits. So favorite quote,

Janice Porter: 00:35:09

what's your favorite quote?

Bonnie Stevens: 00:35:10

Oh, favorite quote? Well, as you know, I've,

Bonnie Stevens: 00:35:14

I've had the great honor and opportunity to interview so many

Bonnie Stevens: 00:35:18

amazing people, people who have done, you know, something that

Bonnie Stevens: 00:35:22

no one else has done. And I have interviewed for men who, out of

Bonnie Stevens: 00:35:28

the 12 that have walked on the moon and not just interviewed

Bonnie Stevens: 00:35:31

them, but spent time with them, you know, like, spend an

Bonnie Stevens: 00:35:34

afternoon with them working with them as a keynote speaker and

Bonnie Stevens: 00:35:37

driving them around and having conversations. And my favorite,

Bonnie Stevens: 00:35:41

I shouldn't say this, but my favorite was Alan Bean. And he

Bonnie Stevens: 00:35:45

was on Apollo 12. Now, I always felt sorry for Apollo 12.

Bonnie Stevens: 00:35:48

Because Apollo 11. And as you remember, it was Neil Armstrong

Bonnie Stevens: 00:35:51

and Buzz Aldrin, and, you know, they got, they got all the

Bonnie Stevens: 00:35:54

glory, no, Apollo 12 was like, you know, been there, done that.

Bonnie Stevens: 00:35:59

And yet, Alan Bean was one of those astronauts that walked on

Bonnie Stevens: 00:36:03

the moon with a very, like, the third person, I think, walked on

Bonnie Stevens: 00:36:07

the moon. And so as I'm talking to him, just casually, you know,

Bonnie Stevens: 00:36:11

not even in with my notepad. I said, So what's it like to step

Bonnie Stevens: 00:36:16

out onto the moon, and everything's Gray, and

Bonnie Stevens: 00:36:20

everything's still and everything's quiet, except

Bonnie Stevens: 00:36:24

whatever's going on inside your helmet, you know that your

Bonnie Stevens: 00:36:27

respirators and whatever else is going making noise. And, you

Bonnie Stevens: 00:36:32

know, nothing moves, there's no wind, right? And, and he goes,

Bonnie Stevens: 00:36:36

and then you look back at Earth, and you can see the Blue Magic

Bonnie Stevens: 00:36:41

bubble back there, and the marble with the clouds and the

Bonnie Stevens: 00:36:45

oceans and, and he says, that's when I realized we live in the

Bonnie Stevens: 00:36:50

Garden of Eden. And that quote, has stuck with me ever since.

Bonnie Stevens: 00:36:55

Because whenever you're feeling down, whenever you're feeling

Bonnie Stevens: 00:37:00

like, life is not being fair to you. I think of that quote,

Bonnie Stevens: 00:37:05

because all you have to do is for me, get into nature. And

Bonnie Stevens: 00:37:10

realize, remember, if you think about that, we live in the

Bonnie Stevens: 00:37:14

Garden of Eden. And if you really dissect that, what does

Bonnie Stevens: 00:37:18

that mean? I think of abundance. You know, everything we need

Bonnie Stevens: 00:37:23

oxygen, water, food, people, animals, you know, everything we

Bonnie Stevens: 00:37:27

need is right here. And if you can take yourself as you lift

Bonnie Stevens: 00:37:31

yourself out of the doldrums, wherever you are, and pull

Bonnie Stevens: 00:37:34

yourself up to that place where you can really appreciate the

Bonnie Stevens: 00:37:39

beauty and the wonder, and the opportunity that we all have.

Bonnie Stevens: 00:37:44

You know it it really works for me. And I think that's so

Bonnie Stevens: 00:37:47

beautiful. So that is my favorite quote, in the Garden of

Bonnie Stevens: 00:37:51

Eden. Yeah,

Janice Porter: 00:37:52

that's amazing. Okay, last question. What would

Janice Porter: 00:37:56

you say? Is the best piece of advice that you've ever

Janice Porter: 00:37:59

received?

Bonnie Stevens: 00:38:00

Oh, boy, you know, I've received a lot of

Bonnie Stevens: 00:38:03

advice. Well, one that sticks with me is Kevin Harrington. You

Bonnie Stevens: 00:38:08

may you know, early shark tank fans might remember him from

Bonnie Stevens: 00:38:12

that program. He was one of the first sharks. And he is an Uber

Bonnie Stevens: 00:38:16

entrepreneur, his story is, I love his story. Because if you

Bonnie Stevens: 00:38:19

remember the days of television, where everything went fuzzy, at

Bonnie Stevens: 00:38:24

the end of the day, you know, static, and there was there was

Bonnie Stevens: 00:38:26

just like, no program, or programming or really bad

Bonnie Stevens: 00:38:31

programming in the middle of the night. So Kevin was the guy who

Bonnie Stevens: 00:38:35

thought, well, I'll buy that airtime. Yeah. Right. It was an

Bonnie Stevens: 00:38:39

infomercial. And he would put actual inventors of, you know,

Bonnie Stevens: 00:38:45

wondrous vacuum cleaners or, you know, juice makers or whatever.

Bonnie Stevens: 00:38:50

And he'd have the inventors out there, you know, demonstrating

Bonnie Stevens: 00:38:53

their product for half an hour. And like through it, they'd say,

Bonnie Stevens: 00:38:56

if you want to buy this vacu wonder whatever they would call

Bonnie Stevens: 00:39:00

it, you know, call this number right now. And so he invested in

Bonnie Stevens: 00:39:04

all these inventors and got him on airtime. And his his advice.

Bonnie Stevens: 00:39:12

He says, you know, people don't succeed because they're afraid

Bonnie Stevens: 00:39:16

in a lot of cases. But his quote was, you know what, we're all

Bonnie Stevens: 00:39:21

afraid of failure. And he says, So you tried, you failed, you

Bonnie Stevens: 00:39:27

learned? And I'm like, well, that's, you know, you can kind

Bonnie Stevens: 00:39:30

of just dust your hands off and say, Okay, put it beside you.

Bonnie Stevens: 00:39:34

And his message was really about maximizing your, your chances of

Bonnie Stevens: 00:39:40

winning. And so he would say there'd be times when I tried 10

Bonnie Stevens: 00:39:44

different products, I would invest in 10 different products

Bonnie Stevens: 00:39:48

and three of them would be successes. Now if you look at it

Bonnie Stevens: 00:39:53

depends how you look at it, get three successes, that you got

Bonnie Stevens: 00:39:56

70% failure, and he said then I would match summarise it. So I

Bonnie Stevens: 00:40:00

would invest in 50 products, and then you know, you would

Bonnie Stevens: 00:40:04

multiply your successes. So I really love his attitude about

Bonnie Stevens: 00:40:09

failure is like, you fail, you learned. And I'm like, if we can

Bonnie Stevens: 00:40:13

all just look at it that simply that it's just part of, of life.

Bonnie Stevens: 00:40:19

It takes, it takes some of the fear out of out of trying things

Bonnie Stevens: 00:40:22

that are scary. And, you know, I'm a big believer in, in

Bonnie Stevens: 00:40:26

pushing ourselves, it gets our heart racing and makes us feel

Bonnie Stevens: 00:40:29

alive. And and that's, that's really healthy.

Janice Porter: 00:40:33

That's good. That's really good. I forgot

Janice Porter: 00:40:36

that he was the infomercial guy too. And I know that he has, and

Janice Porter: 00:40:40

he's all over the internet now. I mean, still, and you know,

Janice Porter: 00:40:44

yeah.

Bonnie Stevens: 00:40:45

He never stops. No, he's so high energy. Yes.

Janice Porter: 00:40:49

Well, this has been delightful. And I know that

Janice Porter: 00:40:52

I'm, I'm looking forward to hearing about I wish I could

Janice Porter: 00:40:55

come but I can't, to your wonderful event in Arizona in

Janice Porter: 00:40:59

February. Tell my audience one last time about it. And we'll

Janice Porter: 00:41:02

make sure that the show notes show how they can find you and

Janice Porter: 00:41:05

find it. Okay,

Bonnie Stevens: 00:41:07

absolutely. Yes, I'm thank you so much. I'm super

Bonnie Stevens: 00:41:09

excited about this. This is the workshop that I would have

Bonnie Stevens: 00:41:11

wanted. For myself. And I've integrated it's called shine.

Bonnie Stevens: 00:41:18

And it's February 6 through 10th. It's in the red rocks of

Bonnie Stevens: 00:41:21

Sedona inspirational in and of itself. It's immersive. So we're

Bonnie Stevens: 00:41:25

in this beautiful luxury accommodations built into, you

Bonnie Stevens: 00:41:30

know, surrounded by the red rocks. And we'll be practicing

Bonnie Stevens: 00:41:35

on camera, crafting your story, practicing telling your story,

Bonnie Stevens: 00:41:41

practicing all different formats, you know, how you

Bonnie Stevens: 00:41:44

appear on Zoom, as well as on camera on set on stage, getting

Bonnie Stevens: 00:41:49

your key messages together, and sharing those in a compelling

Bonnie Stevens: 00:41:53

way. And what really makes this workshop sensational is that

Bonnie Stevens: 00:41:58

I've got such a team of experts. I mean, these are award winning

Bonnie Stevens: 00:42:03

legendary broadcasters, pumping speakers past is called coaches.

Bonnie Stevens: 00:42:09

This this one woman that I've gotten to know who is an

Bonnie Stevens: 00:42:12

expression expert, she dresses people for TEDx talks, by

Bonnie Stevens: 00:42:17

getting to know their topic and their brand, so they look like

Bonnie Stevens: 00:42:20

their message. And this will be so fabulous for every part of

Bonnie Stevens: 00:42:24

your life. It's for women. And we'll also be mixing in some of

Bonnie Stevens: 00:42:28

the magic of Sedona like stargazing under these beautiful

Bonnie Stevens: 00:42:32

dark, brilliant stars, dark skies, and we'll be doing some

Bonnie Stevens: 00:42:39

yoga and, and sound bathing and which is you know, with bowls

Bonnie Stevens: 00:42:45

and gongs and, and things so very Sedona esque and that will

Bonnie Stevens: 00:42:49

be dining in a friend of mine who's an entrepreneur in Sedona,

Bonnie Stevens: 00:42:55

she has six award winning restaurants in Sedona that are

Bonnie Stevens: 00:42:59

absolutely all of them, also very different, and all

Bonnie Stevens: 00:43:03

incredibly good. So that's our celebration, we'll be doing that

Bonnie Stevens: 00:43:07

and then we'll also be on my vodcasts. So we'll be on, we'll

Bonnie Stevens: 00:43:12

be putting on a program that people can use for their

Bonnie Stevens: 00:43:15

websites. We'll also I'll also be writing stories about them

Bonnie Stevens: 00:43:18

that will be published. And they can use that so they'll walk

Bonnie Stevens: 00:43:21

away with materials, I'll have videographers, their

Bonnie Stevens: 00:43:24

photographers there, and, and that just the fellowship of

Bonnie Stevens: 00:43:29

being together with like minded women. It's going to be

Bonnie Stevens: 00:43:34

fantastic. I'm, I'm super excited for it, people can find

Bonnie Stevens: 00:43:37

it at story, soul style.com Or look for me at Bonnie Stephens.

Bonnie Stevens: 00:43:43

arizona.com. And you can if you want to chat with me to decide

Bonnie Stevens: 00:43:48

if it's for you. It's bonnie.stephens@gmail.com and

Bonnie Stevens: 00:43:53

just right shine in the subject line and I'll know what your

Bonnie Stevens: 00:43:57

what your what you want to know about. So it'll be fantastic.

Bonnie Stevens: 00:44:01

Thank you, Janice. This has been an amazing opportunity. All was

Bonnie Stevens: 00:44:04

so much fun to talk with you. I love what you do. And I so

Bonnie Stevens: 00:44:08

appreciate the opportunity to talk about how relationships

Bonnie Stevens: 00:44:11

matter so much in all of our businesses. While you've

Janice Porter: 00:44:14

been a delight. Thank you. It's been my pleasure

Janice Porter: 00:44:17

and my privilege to talk to you so I so appreciate it and I know

Janice Porter: 00:44:20

your event will be amazing. I I do will spread the word about

Janice Porter: 00:44:25

this. When this comes out mid January. Okay,

Bonnie Stevens: 00:44:28

fantastic. Thank you so much. And, you know, I'm

Bonnie Stevens: 00:44:32

feeling the urge to send you a thank you card. I

Janice Porter: 00:44:35

love it. I'll accept it anytime. Absolutely.

Janice Porter: 00:44:39

There's so much and remember to my audience. If you like what

Janice Porter: 00:44:42

you heard, please go seek out Bonnie's event and the work that

Janice Porter: 00:44:47

she does, and remember to stay connected and be remembered